I think Radiohead sucks

[PineapplePete]

Convince me otherwise...

[Ill_Eagle]

ThomThom and Suprefan.. i call upon you

[Boourns]

Suicide rocks. Try it.

But seriously, if you aren't convinced already, you never will. Develop taste, that is. :(

[noisemachine]

Convince me otherwise...

No thanks. I think they're great but I could not care less about what other people think of them, or any of the music I like.

[schoolofruckus]

But on the bright side, people are now clicking on your thread, Pineapple Pete. Keep up the good work.

[suprefan]

ThomThom and Suprefan.. i call upon you

::from the deapths of the abyss somethign rises:



You called up on me?



OK, well I cant type anything argument worthy since I'm leaving for work in a little bit. But in the meantime I am sure somebody will say soemthing. When I get home we'll see whats up.

[smokealotapotamus]

I could see Pete being the teacher for a debate class: "I'll just play devil's advocate here... Radiohead sucks... convince me otherwise"

[dontfeedthebird]

Mmmm. Thom.

[dorkfish]

But on the bright side, people are now clicking on your thread, Pineapple Pete. Keep up the good work.
exactly. attention is pure gold to some

[bartelby]

whew, one less guy to battle for radiohead tickets....

[roberto73]

I don't know, Pete. You've presented such a cogent and bulletproof argument of your own position, I think all of us Radiohead fans are now seriously reconsidering our love of the band.

"I think Radiohead sucks." Man, can't argue with that logic.

[ThomThom]

Convince me otherwise...


Attention Whore:

Label given to any person who craves attention to such an extent that they will do anything to receive it. The type of attention (negative or positive) does not matter.

[vogina]

some people just don't like certain bands. i dislike Nirvana, aww im rich but sad : (, and i dislike the Beatles..

[ThomThom]

some people just don't like certain bands. i dislike Nirvana, aww im rich but sad : (, and i dislike the Beatles..


Yeah but your not asking for the entire board to convince you

[suprefan]

Maybe Pete just liked my response after he said Morrissey sucks. He doesnt want to go on my ignore list. ANYWAY, back on topic. I am on my break so I thought I would check in. While Pete goes through his last days of high school I'll post these questions.



What dont you "get"?
What songs do you like from them?
What songs dont you like?
How long have you been listening to them?
Have you ever seen them live?
Do you feel their fanbase or anyone else is just kissing their asses for no good reason?
Is their music just too ''progressive'' and ''out there'' that your brain cant comprehend, thus the rejection?
Does Thoms eye scare you?
Which albums have you listened to?
What just made you think they suck?
Who is ''worthy'' of being your ''Radiohead''?(dont say arcade fire)
Do you like Coldplay more cause Chris Martin has a hot wife?
Did you ever consider suicide and Radiohead pushed you to do so because they ''suck'' so much?
If you could make a suggestion to the band regarding their next album and what music is going to end up on it, what would you say?




The gauntlet has been set, lets see what you got.

[DeltaSigChi4]

I didn't like Radiohead when I was sixteen [16]. But that was one year before I stopped watching MTV forever. So that goes to tell you what my mindset was. I was watching MTV for fucks sake.

Some people never grow up, eh Pineapple.

E

[vogina]

Yeah but your not asking for the entire board to convince you

ah, touche'.

PineapplePete

http://skodliv.dk/favor.jpg

[ThomThom]

Maybe Pete just liked my response after he said Morrissey sucks. He doesnt want to go on my ignore list. ANYWAY, back on topic. I am on my break so I thought I would check in. While Pete goes through his last days of high school I'll post these questions.



What dont you "get"?
What songs do you like from them?
What songs dont you like?
How long have you been listening to them?
Have you ever seen them live?
Do you feel their fanbase or anyone else is just kissing their asses for no good reason?
Is their music just too ''progressive'' and ''out there'' that your brain cant comprehend, thus the rejection?
Does Thoms eye scare you?
Which albums have you listened to?
What just made you think they suck?
Who is ''worthy'' of being your ''Radiohead''?(dont say arcade fire)
Do you like Coldplay more cause Chris Martin has a hot wife?
Did you ever consider suicide and Radiohead pushed you to do so because they ''suck'' so much?
If you could make a suggestion to the band regarding their next album and what music is going to end up on it, what would you say?




The gauntlet has been set, lets see what you got.


Wow, Supre...very "codytwo" ish of you, come on Pete let's hear the horse shit that's about to come out of you now.

[bballarl]

I didn't like Radiohead before Coachella 04. I was bored by it. Then I listened to The Bends numerous times before the festival (in an effort to get into them). The other stuff fell into place after that.

[kroqken]

Radiohead is my fifth favorite band of all time.

[ThomThom]

KEN,

Who is 1-4?

[kroqken]

1. The Smiths 2. The Pixies 3. The Strokes 4. Ride
I do not bother to rank bands below the top 5.

[ThomThom]

1. The Smiths 2. The Pixies 3. The Strokes 4. Ride
I do not bother to rank bands below the top 5.

You are a very interesting individual KEN

[kroqken]

I am just me, all of my spirit intact.

[amyzzz]

1. The Smiths 2. The Pixies 3. The Strokes 4. Ride
I do not bother to rank bands below the top 5.
That's a pretty good list, Ken. I like all those bands, to some degree.

[suprefan]

Its Pixies Ken, and yeah I know the 2004 line up made you drool a little.



Thom Thom: thanks(i guess) I thought of a few beforehand and the rest kind popped up.

[downingthief]

Its Pixies Ken, and yeah I know the 2004 line up made you drool a little.



Thom Thom: thanks(i guess) I thought of a few beforehand and the rest kind popped up.

"Drool" was an understatement for me. My first time seeing Radiohead after being a long time fan. Same with the Pixies.

In Pete's defense, I CAN understand why some people don't like Radiohead, although I think they are flat out amazing. They are not very accesible at times, whether it be musically, lyrically, or subject matter. Those are some of the reasons that I do like them, but to each their own. What I also think makes them a great band is how well they pull off the songs live, and the energy they bring. I would invite anyone who does not like them, solely based on recorded work, see them live, and THEN pass judgement.

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

Convince me otherwise...

Why? You made your choice already?

[hangthedj112]

Yet you like Muse and saw the fratellis, says a lot about you.

[ThomThom]

Yet you like Muse and saw the fratellis, says a lot about you.

owned

[DeltaSigChi4]

Owned is so 2004.

E

[corbo]

you are so silly pineapple pete :dumbo

[rage patton]

I find when it comes to Radiohead... there are 3 types of people
1)People who only know their mainstream radio songs.
2)People who know their entire catalogue.
3)People who think they are pretentious assholes.
Also, sometimes 1+3 go together.

[amyzzz]

I have a friend who doesn't like Thom Yorke's voice. if I don't like the singer's voice in a band, that's a deal-breaker for me.

[J~$$$]

gelato is so incredibly delicious.

[thelastgreatman]

If you're not moved by Karma Police, you have no soul.

Same goes for A Day In The Life, for whoever said they don't like The Beatles. And I haven't heard the "I'm rich but sad" complaint about Nirvana in a long time, still don't really understand it. They weren't always rich. You think a suicidally depressed heroin addict is going to perk up just because he got rich? Ever noticed that rich people aren't particularly happier than other people?

[DeltaSigChi4]

Bill Gates looks to be pretty happy. /devil's advocate

E

[bmack86]

If you don't like the Beatles, you don't have a soul. Simple as that.

[leo01g]

A green plastic watering can
For a fake chinese rubber plant
In the fake plastic earth

That she bought from a rubber man
In a town full of rubber plans
To get rid of itself

It wears her out, it wears her out
It wears her out, it wears her out

She lives with a broken man
A cracked polystyrene man
Who just crumbles and burns

He used to do surgery
On girls in the eighties
But gravity always wins

And it wears him out, it wears him out
It wears him out, it wears him out

She looks like the real thing
She tastes like the real thing
My fake plastic love

But I can't help the feeling
I could blow through the ceiling
If I just turn and run

And it wears me out, it wears me out
It wears me out, it wears me out

And if I could be who you wanted
If I could be who you wanted
All the time, all the time

This song made me love Radiohead even though i was only 7. Other all time favorite band Nirvana, i was influenced by my older cousin.

[PineapplePete]

you guys, im not trying to get attention...

i just haven't ever gotten into Radiohead and i wanted to see what a fan's argument for them would be. cuz it seems to me like people drool head-over-heels for them, i just wanted to know why. i dont actually think they suck...i just thought this would be the best way to get an argument in defense of this band.

consider this question:

whats so great about them?

[leo01g]

their lyrics, the unbelieveable atmosphere at their concerts, the actual music, many more things. They don't create fake emotion through their music.

[ThomThom]

you guys, im not trying to get attention...

i just haven't ever gotten into Radiohead and i wanted to see what a fan's argument for them would be. cuz it seems to me like people drool head-over-heels for them, i just wanted to know why. i dont actually think they suck...i just thought this would be the best way to get an argument in defense of this band.

consider this question:

whats so great about them?

Pete,

They affect everybody in a different way, there is no need for this question to be asked or answered, will you seriously be convinced and start "getting into them" if somebody makes a valid point as to what is so great about them from a personal standpoint?

[suprefan]

you guys, im not trying to get attention...

i just haven't ever gotten into Radiohead and i wanted to see what a fan's argument for them would be. cuz it seems to me like people drool head-over-heels for them, i just wanted to know why. i dont actually think they suck...i just thought this would be the best way to get an argument in defense of this band.

consider this question:

whats so great about them?

Answer all my quesions first, I asked them for a reason. Dont give me a whatever answer.


He wont be "convinced" he just wants to know why certain bands get their asses kissed.

[amyzzz]

I just read through all of supre's questions, and this one struck me:
Do you like Coldplay more cause Chris Martin has a hot wife?

I admit I actually liked Coldplay less when Chris Martin married Gwyneth. Damn sell-outs.

[ThomThom]

I just read through all of supre's questions, and this one struck me:

I admit I actually liked Coldplay less when Chris Martin married Gwyneth. Damn sell-outs.

What does marrying Gwyneth Paltrow have anything to do with a band selling out?

[Mr.Nipples]

*sigh*

[kroqken]

I still get emotional about Paranoid Android and Electioneering.

[amyzzz]

What does marrying Gwyneth Paltrow have anything to do with a band selling out?
It was a joke.

[mountmccabe]

You should like Radiohead because they are punk legends

[smokealotapotamus]

I still get emotional about Paranoid Android and Electioneering.

The No Surprises and Electioneering covers by The Section Quartet get me a little teary eyed every once in a while.

[mob roulette]

some people just don't like certain bands. i dislike Nirvana, aww im rich but sad : (, and i dislike the Beatles..

this sentence alone destroys all twelve years of any public education you might have received.

assuming you finished.

and yet we still wonder why the smart people aren't breeding as fast as the wal mart set. who wants to bring up kids in a world where sentences like this are allowed to exist? so depressing. really.

[ragingdave]

Radiohead is still one of my favorite bands.
They are one of the few bands who have always pushed the boundaries of "mainstream" music and have never rested on their laurels by putting out the same crap every release (Hail to the Thief excepted, but that's another argument...) instead challenging their fanbase by changing their sound and putting out records that take time to appreciate. You could pick 2-3 records of theirs and not only argue that they belong in the top 10 record pantheon but never fail to send shivers down my spine...

Now, having said that, I am starting to feel that their creative output has run the course. I didn't feel the same power and emotion with Hail to the Thief that I had with all earlier records. Their last tour left much to be desired though I think they basically wanted to test out the new batch of songs on their core fanbase so they in turn booked smaller more initimate venues (which I thought would be great, but the energy didn't translate).

I will be one of the first in line to check out the new record when it comes out and I will always go see them, but I do think that we will be witnessing the remaining years of this band on the downward slope after such a glorious and beautiful uphill climb...

[BlueDevil50]

If you don't like the Beatles, you don't have a soul. Simple as that.

sorry...i cant stand the beatles! im not retarded, i know how much of an influence they are on EVERYTHING, but ive just always hated their sound for some reason

[Mr.Nipples]

If you dont like the beatles then get the fuck out of america...

[suprefan]

sorry...i cant stand the beatles! im not retarded, i know how much of an influence they are on EVERYTHING, but ive just always hated their sound for some reason

So this means you hate pop music in general then for the "sound" that came from the Beatles? Does the 3 minute "single" really bother you? Some of their albums sound better than a lot of things even released today, you know Sgt Peppers was done on a 4 track?

[mob roulette]

sorry...i cant stand the beatles! im not retarded, i know how much of an influence they are on EVERYTHING, but ive just always hated their sound for some reason

i'm totally making a no-fly list as we speak. how do you feel about oxygen? any complicated dissenting opinions there?

[ragingdave]

sorry...i cant stand the beatles! im not retarded, i know how much of an influence they are on EVERYTHING, but ive just always hated their sound for some reason

That statement just supports the God-Afulnes of your avatar.
You and your ilk all need to die.

[PineapplePete]

He wont be "convinced" he just wants to know why certain bands get their asses kissed.

more or less yes

Radiohead is still one of my favorite bands.
They are one of the few bands who have always pushed the boundaries of "mainstream" music and have never rested on their laurels by putting out the same crap every release (Hail to the Thief excepted, but that's another argument...) instead challenging their fanbase by changing their sound and putting out records that take time to appreciate. You could pick 2-3 records of theirs and not only argue that they belong in the top 10 record pantheon but never fail to send shivers down my spine...

Now, having said that, I am starting to feel that their creative output has run the course. I didn't feel the same power and emotion with Hail to the Thief that I had with all earlier records. Their last tour left much to be desired though I think they basically wanted to test out the new batch of songs on their core fanbase so they in turn booked smaller more initimate venues (which I thought would be great, but the energy didn't translate).

I will be one of the first in line to check out the new record when it comes out and I will always go see them, but I do think that we will be witnessing the remaining years of this band on the downward slope after such a glorious and beautiful uphill climb...

this is what i want.

[ragingdave]

It wasn't written for you, douchebag.

[atom heart]

Radiohead is still one of my favorite bands.
They are one of the few bands who have always pushed the boundaries of "mainstream" music and have never rested on their laurels by putting out the same crap every release (Hail to the Thief excepted, but that's another argument...) instead challenging their fanbase by changing their sound and putting out records that take time to appreciate. You could pick 2-3 records of theirs and not only argue that they belong in the top 10 record pantheon but never fail to send shivers down my spine...

Now, having said that, I am starting to feel that their creative output has run the course. I didn't feel the same power and emotion with Hail to the Thief that I had with all earlier records. Their last tour left much to be desired though I think they basically wanted to test out the new batch of songs on their core fanbase so they in turn booked smaller more initimate venues (which I thought would be great, but the energy didn't translate).

I will be one of the first in line to check out the new record when it comes out and I will always go see them, but I do think that we will be witnessing the remaining years of this band on the downward slope after such a glorious and beautiful uphill climb...

Much to vinylmartyr's chagrin, though I'm certain he has more pressing matters to attend to, I can't resist posting a little (or a lot) about my favorite band.

It took me two years to decide that I didn't hate Hail to the Thief as much as I thought I did. The fact remains that I still only really enjoy two or three songs on it.

As far as their new material goes it has a much greater impact on me than HTTT, especially Videotape, since I have the haunting little number Thom did for Nigel's web-television show. Others I have a great antipathy for (as I have for Karma Police and Creep) and need to be nixed or changed fundamentally in my mind. I don't know what I'll do if 4-Minute Warning appears on the album. Talk about downward spiral...

But if Piney doesn't like it he doesn't need my help. I hated Radiohead for ten years.

[suprefan]

more or less yes



this is what i want.

And shouldnt we wonder why anyone kisses the asses of your favorite bands? How about that for a question. Look at it like that and you will figure it out kid.


And you still havent answered my questions kid. ANSWER or I wont even give you an explanation.

[NeverMyopic]

1. The Smiths 2. The Pixies 3. The Strokes 4. Ride
I do not bother to rank bands below the top 5.

That's a pretty damn good top 5!

[thelastgreatman]

Having The Strokes above Radiohead let alone in the top five bands of all time is fucking preposterous. Also, nothing prior to the 80s?

[kroqken]

The Strokes are one of the greatest bands of all time and Julian Casablancas is a genius. Call him "Casagenius".

[Hannahrain]

I'm with Randy on this one. In five years, The Strokes will be a "Hey, remember those guys?" "No." "Yeah, me neither." band.

[wmgaretjax]

I'm with Randy on this one. In five years, The Strokes will be a "Hey, remember those guys?" "No." "Yeah, me neither." band.

agreed. The Strokes are OK, but they aren't anything special.

[Mr.Nipples]

i was just thinking the same thing today, which is a shame because is this it? is a really good album...

[kroqken]

The Strokes are special. I have seen them six times and they put on one of the best shows I have ever seen anywhere.

[thelastgreatman]

... right. They're not even as good as the bands that copied their sound, not to mention the bands they were copying their sound from to begin with. Also, they're responsible for looking like a rock star having turned into looking like an asshole, and all the assholes trying to look like rock stars walking around. Plus that singer needs to have his vocal chords set on fire, then extinguished with hot asphalt.

Just sayin'. Give me what you think the absolute best Strokes song is and I'll check it out. If it even touches Radiohead's ten best, I'll suck FOI's dick.

[kroqken]

My favorite song is "Hawaii Aloha" which is a rare Strokes B side.

[wmgaretjax]

The Strokes are special. I have seen them six times and they put on one of the best shows I have ever seen anywhere.

yeah... i like my favorite stuff "special" too.

[summerkid]

Now, having said that, I am starting to feel that their creative output has run the course. I didn't feel the same power and emotion with Hail to the Thief that I had with all earlier records. Their last tour left much to be desired though I think they basically wanted to test out the new batch of songs on their core fanbase so they in turn booked smaller more initimate venues (which I thought would be great, but the energy didn't translate).

I will be one of the first in line to check out the new record when it comes out and I will always go see them, but I do think that we will be witnessing the remaining years of this band on the downward slope after such a glorious and beautiful uphill climb...

That's exactly why i didn't scramble to get Radiohead tickets when they came here. I knew they'd be difficult to get and I wasn't quite sure if at this point in their career if they were worth the effort.

[kroqken]

My cereal is called Special K. They should take a picture of my face and put it on a cereal box, like my picture on http://www.myspace.com/kroqken

[summerkid]

The Strokes are special. I have seen them six times and they put on one of the best shows I have ever seen anywhere.

I hate the Strokes so much, they do nothing but disappoint me with every new album they come out with. I threw First Impressions out with my garbage.

[Hannahrain]

Ken, it's nice that you've found a band that resonates so strongly with you, but something meaning a lot to you personally doesn't make it "special" in the grand scheme of music history. The Strokes arent bringing anything new to the table, and they aren't impressing most of us with their interpretation of the existing music world.

[thelastgreatman]

Well Pete, as it turns out we're not nearly as interested in whether or not you think Radiohead sucks ('cause it's silly) as we are in how much Ken thinks The Strokes don't suck ('cause it's silly).

[suprefan]

Yeah he is kind of missing out because we are not doing his bidding, and he cant even answer simple questions I asked. Too busy gushing over the AF show from last night still?

[Hannahrain]

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/The_Strokes

[thelastgreatman]

Well in all due fairness, Supre... who the fuck ever wants to answer your questions? Feel free to consider that rhetorical.

And the AF show was fantastic.

[wmgaretjax]

That's exactly why i didn't scramble to get Radiohead tickets when they came here. I knew they'd be difficult to get and I wasn't quite sure if at this point in there career if they were worth the effort.

I don't know, Berkeley night 2 was the best Radiohead show I've ever seen, and it was my 6th time (Kid A, HTTT, and last tour, two each).

[BlueDevil50]

haha yall are a trip...for some reason i just do NOT like the beatles, not sayin they suck or you all are stupid for liking them...its just my opinion, and ive given them a ton of listens...just not for me

but of course...that makes me stupid right? haha

[PineapplePete]

Yeah he is kind of missing out because we are not doing his bidding, and he cant even answer simple questions I asked. Too busy gushing over the AF show from last night still?

i'll get to it in a sec...lemme go find ur post

[thelastgreatman]

haha yall are a trip...for some reason i just do NOT like the beatles, not sayin they suck or you all are stupid for liking them...its just my opinion, and ive given them a ton of listens...just not for me

but of course...that makes me stupid right? haha

Well, differences of opinion are kinda inherent in life, but if opinions aren't what defines whether or not someone's stupid then what is? Anything anyone says is merely their opinion. Some of these opinions are stupid. Not loving Sgt. Pepper's... that's one of 'em.

[wmgaretjax]

but of course...that makes me stupid right? haha

haha. yes.

[betao]

I havent given my two cents on Radiohead yet, but I only want to say this:

If listening to Exit Music and Lucky doesnt send chills down your spine, then I dont know what will.

[PineapplePete]

Maybe Pete just liked my response after he said Morrissey sucks. He doesnt want to go on my ignore list. ANYWAY, back on topic. I am on my break so I thought I would check in. While Pete goes through his last days of high school I'll post these questions.



What dont you "get"?
What songs do you like from them?
What songs dont you like?
How long have you been listening to them?
Have you ever seen them live?
Do you feel their fanbase or anyone else is just kissing their asses for no good reason?
Is their music just too ''progressive'' and ''out there'' that your brain cant comprehend, thus the rejection?
Does Thoms eye scare you?
Which albums have you listened to?
What just made you think they suck?
Who is ''worthy'' of being your ''Radiohead''?(dont say arcade fire)
Do you like Coldplay more cause Chris Martin has a hot wife?
Did you ever consider suicide and Radiohead pushed you to do so because they ''suck'' so much?
If you could make a suggestion to the band regarding their next album and what music is going to end up on it, what would you say?




The gauntlet has been set, lets see what you got.

i don't not "get" anything. i totally understand where they're coming from and what they're saying.

i have never gotten around to acquiring a Radiohead album

i have never seen them live

i dont KNOW whether or not "their fanbase or anyone else is just kissing their asses for no good reason" thats why i asked the question dumbshit

their "progressive" music is just plain pretentious to me, its not that i dont understand it

as i explained i have no reason to think they suck, i have barely ever herd a song from them. i only said that to get a response from radiohead fans in defense of Radiohead

i haven't chosen a "radiohead" yet...i dont think any music is worth obsessing and pouring over

there happy now?


as it has become apparent i know close to nothing about radiohead, i only wanted to know why people think they're so great

[PineapplePete]

Yeah he is kind of missing out because we are not doing his bidding, and he cant even answer simple questions I asked. Too busy gushing over the AF show from last night still?

and yes...im just sitting here starring at my beautiful zoetrope...number 687/1000

[thelastgreatman]

as it has become apparent i know close to nothing about radiohead, i only wanted to know why people think they're so great

Alright, well, that's kinda fucking annoying then. Why were you asking us to take time out of our day to defend a band that you don't even dislike yet? As if the collective board's detailed opinions on why they like Radiohead (generally a silly question--you like music that sounds good to you) would have any impact on whether or not you'd like them to.

Download a fucking album or two, you lazy whore. OK Computer and Kid A, specifically.

[kingsblend420]

I think that I should weight in on the discussion here. And I'm not going to lie here......................











































that is all

[suprefan]

i don't not "get" anything. i totally understand where they're coming from and what they're saying.

i have never gotten around to acquiring a Radiohead album

i have never seen them live


their "progressive" music is just plain pretentious to me, its not that i dont understand it

as i explained i have no reason to think they suck, i have barely ever herd a song from them.

i haven't chosen a "radiohead" yet...i dont think any music is worth obsessing and pouring over



Somewhat, the answers quoted above have some contradictions. How do you know what they are saying and coming from if you dont have an album or barely heard a song from them? How is the music pretentious if you havent listened to their pretentious records? I'll let the live thing slide of course since you are a little baby, but still. There is plenty of music worth obsessiong over, you just dont want to take the chance of backing the wrong horse. Loyalty is a strong thing and this band has it with their fans. They will stand by their words because they believe in the music and what it does to them and how its affected lots of other things. Before you even started to ask us our thoughts you shouldve done your homework. Go download The Bends, OK Computer and Kid A, listen until you get tired of it and come back to us. I'll even give you links to download if that helps.





Now I will give you my answer. Being a long time fan(15 years and counting) theres been lots of history in my life with this band. I have been trying to make up for lost time on seeing them live but I think thats my only fault with them. Its moving music, you listen to it over and over and sometimes you hear something you didnt before. You get a visual of whats being said and conveyed in the lyrics. Thom writes some good words if you ever took the time to read them. They are not where they are within the music scene because they just played to the masses and did their bidding. I could care less now if they ever played Creep again, because I have seen it performed and thats that, lets move on ya know? They have been 10 steps ahead of the game for a while. When they put an album out, everyone listens because its a big deal. People wonder what they will do next, will they go all electronic? Maybe some more jazz? Will they return to the guitar work that propelled them into the limelight? Hail To The Thief was pretty good I think, but for me that album was made to be played live. They had finally gotten over all the s**t that happend post Ok Computer and what made Kid A and Amnesiac good albums. They got "happy" and you could see it a bit. I loved the last tour, because being able to be the guinea pigs for what would be the next album is just awesome. It was the longest week of my life. I laughed, I cried, I lost immense sleep. I had to readjust to "normal" life after all of it ended. I couldnt even believe it went by so fast, yet time stood still. In any blog I wrote about that whole week I never spoke of the show and the music, because in my eyes I couldnt find words to express what went through my mind, my heart, my body for those 2 hours they were on stage every night. When you find pieces of music that can do that to you, you hold on and cherish it because you know there wont be something like that created ever again. Hope that helps, now get to downloading.




Great, now I might not even get one if you got #687, crap. Picture of it woudl be cool if you would be so kind.

[PineapplePete]

i'm tired of this thread and i am sorry i started it. please let it die people

and here you go supre
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/521284855_58e144ca53.jpg?v=0

[suprefan]

Nice, that'll be one thats framing worthy if I can get one. Well listen to what I said and download, dont judge until you listen. You might end up liking it more than you know.

[PineapplePete]

hey does anyone know a place where i can copy that poster? kinkos? staples? i really wanna put the zoetrope together and see what it looks like but i don't wanna cut up the original

[kingsblend420]

Somewhat, the answers quoted above have some contradictions. How do you know what they are saying and coming from if you dont have an album or barely heard a song from them? How is the music pretentious if you havent listened to their pretentious records? I'll let the live thing slide of course since you are a little baby, but still. There is plenty of music worth obsessiong over, you just dont want to take the chance of backing the wrong horse. Loyalty is a strong thing and this band has it with their fans. They will stand by their words because they believe in the music and what it does to them and how its affected lots of other things. Before you even started to ask us our thoughts you shouldve done your homework. Go download The Bends, OK Computer and Kid A, listen until you get tired of it and come back to us. I'll even give you links to download if that helps.





Now I will give you my answer. Being a long time fan(15 years and counting) theres been lots of history in my life with this band. I have been trying to make up for lost time on seeing them live but I think thats my only fault with them. Its moving music, you listen to it over and over and sometimes you hear something you didnt before. You get a visual of whats being said and conveyed in the lyrics. Thom writes some good words if you ever took the time to read them. They are not where they are within the music scene because they just played to the masses and did their bidding. I could care less now if they ever played Creep again, because I have seen it performed and thats that, lets move on ya know? They have been 10 steps ahead of the game for a while. When they put an album out, everyone listens because its a big deal. People wonder what they will do next, will they go all electronic? Maybe some more jazz? Will they return to the guitar work that propelled them into the limelight? Hail To The Thief was pretty good I think, but for me that album was made to be played live. They had finally gotten over all the s**t that happend post Ok Computer and what made Kid A and Amnesiac good albums. They got "happy" and you could see it a bit. I loved the last tour, because being able to be the guinea pigs for what would be the next album is just awesome. It was the longest week of my life. I laughed, I cried, I lost immense sleep. I had to readjust to "normal" life after all of it ended. I couldnt even believe it went by so fast, yet time stood still. In any blog I wrote about that whole week I never spoke of the show and the music, because in my eyes I couldnt find words to express what went through my mind, my heart, my body for those 2 hours they were on stage every night. When you find pieces of music that can do that to you, you hold on and cherish it because you know there wont be something like that created ever again. Hope that helps, now get to downloading.




Great, now I might not even get one if you got #687, crap. Picture of it woudl be cool if you would be so kind.

I feel the same way about Tool.

[hangthedj112]

i don't not "get" anything. i totally understand where they're coming from and what they're saying.

i have never gotten around to acquiring a Radiohead album

Oh man, the lulz, the lulz...

[kingsblend420]

Oh man, the lulz, the lulz...

i loled

[roberto73]

To: hangthedj112, kingsblend420
From: Roberto73
Date: 30 May, 2007
Re: Oh man, the lulz, the lulz ...

For more lulz, see also:


their "progressive" music is just plain pretentious to me, its not that i dont understand it

as i explained i have no reason to think they suck, i have barely ever herd a song from them.

[menikmati]

I think Depeche Mode sucks.

[ThomThom]

Radiohead is still one of my favorite bands.
They are one of the few bands who have always pushed the boundaries of "mainstream" music and have never rested on their laurels by putting out the same crap every release (Hail to the Thief excepted, but that's another argument...) instead challenging their fanbase by changing their sound and putting out records that take time to appreciate. You could pick 2-3 records of theirs and not only argue that they belong in the top 10 record pantheon but never fail to send shivers down my spine...

Now, having said that, I am starting to feel that their creative output has run the course. I didn't feel the same power and emotion with Hail to the Thief that I had with all earlier records. Their last tour left much to be desired though I think they basically wanted to test out the new batch of songs on their core fanbase so they in turn booked smaller more initimate venues (which I thought would be great, but the energy didn't translate).

I will be one of the first in line to check out the new record when it comes out and I will always go see them, but I do think that we will be witnessing the remaining years of this band on the downward slope after such a glorious and beautiful uphill climb...

Dave,

This is the most detailed and honest review of Radiohead as a whole that I have witnessed in recent memory, however, this statement does make me beg to differ on running their course. Have you heard any of the new stuff, particularly "Videotape" ?, what do you make of the new material? Has the same feeling that you got from previous albums/tracks resonated at all? I am not trying to be a typical asshole Radiohead fan, I am just asking out of curiosity due in part to the fact that your opinions are logical.

[rage patton]

Ok Computer is an amazing album. I thought Radiohead were "pretty good" up until I bought that album. It is now in my top 10, perhaps even top 5, albums of all time. Something about that album...

[elChurro]

BLASPHEMY!

[kroqken]

OK COmputer is timeless in its essence.

[J~$$$]

http://spinemagazine.com/music/may/lupefiasco/usplacers.mp3

[amyzzz]

haha yall are a trip...for some reason i just do NOT like the beatles, not sayin they suck or you all are stupid for liking them...its just my opinion, and ive given them a ton of listens...just not for me

but of course...that makes me stupid right? haha
I'm personally kind of sick of the Beatles. Maybe I'll "get" them someday. I don't think anyone who dislikes them is anti-music.

[PassiveTheory]

Yeah... I fall into that category of folks who like the Strokes more than either the Beatles or Radiohead.

I think the latter (especially with Bob Dylan) is because I listened to a LOT of oldies music in my youth (trivia: before it became an independent alt. rock station, 94.9 was the oldies station) and I grew out of it.

There are just a few artists with this ridiculous mainstream reverence that's VERY push-offish for me, at least, and it's especially true in regards to Radiohead where virtually every fan I've ever encountered has never had anything to complain about the band, or if questioned have the same reply; "well, I never really liked Pablo Honey at first..."

Yeah, you might think it's a silly reason to not like the group, but that kind of atmosphere is pretty intimidating. That coupled with the fact that I think Radiohead isn't the greatest tends to put me in the camp of "people who dislike Radiohead" because, in my experience, it's impossible to find a middle ground with Radiohead fans... =/

On a side note, I do love this remix I found of Thom Yorke's "Analyze" mixed in with Jeff Buckley's "You and I"... It's pretty boss.

[amyzzz]

I never listen to Pablo Honey. And I skip over a few Radiohead songs. There are some Radiohead album tracks that I <gasp!> haven't even put on my ipod.

Yet I still consider myself a huge Radiohead fan. And I adore the Thom Yorke solo CD.

[ThomThom]

Although Okay Computer is essentially the groundbreaking album KID A has slowly become my personal favorite of the six albums they have put out.

[PassiveTheory]

I never listen to Pablo Honey. And I skip over a few Radiohead songs. There are some Radiohead album tracks that I <gasp!> haven't even put on my ipod.

Yet I still consider myself a huge Radiohead fan. And I adore the Thom Yorke solo CD.

You know, I seem to remember having this chat in the chat room... With that same answer too...

Oh yeah, lemme know if you want a copy of that track I mentioned.

[amyzzz]

Ah. I have this horrible habit of repeating myself. I don't remember what track you mentioned.

[PassiveTheory]

No worries, it's a remix. When I was looking for some music for my myspace, I came across this site with some remixes, and one of them was a remix of Thom Yorke's "Analyze" where the person tracked over Jeff Buckley's "You and I" and it's really good.

[bartelby]

i don't really think pablo honey is very good at all...a couple good tunes, but overall its definitely their weakest...

amnesiac is my fav nowadays, grows on me every time i listen to it....

[amyzzz]

I didn't even like Radiohead much until I started hearing tracks off The Bends. That CD was an instant classic.

[wmgaretjax]

I think Pablo Honey is a really mediocre album. I think The Bends is a good album that won't stand the test of time.

Everything else is amazing. Although HTTT is not quite up to par with the three previous albums.

[amyzzz]

I love Hail to the Thief, but The Bends and OK Computer are their only albums in which I don't skip any tracks.

[mob roulette]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/521284855_58e144ca53.jpg?v=0

is this chris ware?

[mob roulette]

never mind. it's another burlesque. looks like ware's style though.

[ragingdave]

Dave,

This is the most detailed and honest review of Radiohead as a whole that I have witnessed in recent memory, however, this statement does make me beg to differ on running their course. Have you heard any of the new stuff, particularly "Videotape" ?, what do you make of the new material? Has the same feeling that you got from previous albums/tracks resonated at all? I am not trying to be a typical asshole Radiohead fan, I am just asking out of curiosity due in part to the fact that your opinions are logical.

I honestly refuse to listen to any of the leaked new stuff. I think it's possible that the leaked version of Hail to the Thief on some level ruined the actual release for me. As for hearing the new material live on their last tour, a couple songs felt strong but most of it still sounded half finished and still in progress. I will wait until the official release and then give it some time to sink in.

[kroqken]

The Bends has been holding up for 12 years and counting. That album, along with OK COmputer and Hail to the Thief are my favorites. I like their more guitar driven work over their more electronic sounding songs, but they are always good no matter what.

[TomAz]

Convince me otherwise...

you need to be able to follow a cogent argument before you can be convinced of anything

But on the bright side, people are now clicking on your thread, Pineapple Pete. Keep up the good work.

+10

I don't know, Pete. You've presented such a cogent and bulletproof argument of your own position, I think all of us Radiohead fans are now seriously reconsidering our love of the band.

"I think Radiohead sucks." Man, can't argue with that logic.

+10

If you don't like the Beatles, you don't have a soul. Simple as that.

true fact.

Radiohead is still one of my favorite bands.
They are one of the few bands who have always pushed the boundaries of "mainstream" music and have never rested on their laurels by putting out the same crap every release (Hail to the Thief excepted, but that's another argument...) instead challenging their fanbase by changing their sound and putting out records that take time to appreciate. You could pick 2-3 records of theirs and not only argue that they belong in the top 10 record pantheon but never fail to send shivers down my spine...

Now, having said that, I am starting to feel that their creative output has run the course. I didn't feel the same power and emotion with Hail to the Thief that I had with all earlier records. Their last tour left much to be desired though I think they basically wanted to test out the new batch of songs on their core fanbase so they in turn booked smaller more initimate venues (which I thought would be great, but the energy didn't translate).

I will be one of the first in line to check out the new record when it comes out and I will always go see them, but I do think that we will be witnessing the remaining years of this band on the downward slope after such a glorious and beautiful uphill climb...

I think it's possible you've given up too soon. You may be right (HTTT had its moments, but overall was kind of dull) but other bands have had their own flubs and followed with outstanding work later on.


i don't not "get" anything. i totally understand where they're coming from and what they're saying.

i have never gotten around to acquiring a Radiohead album

i have never seen them live

i dont KNOW whether or not "their fanbase or anyone else is just kissing their asses for no good reason" thats why i asked the question dumbshit

their "progressive" music is just plain pretentious to me, its not that i dont understand it

as i explained i have no reason to think they suck, i have barely ever herd a song from them. i only said that to get a response from radiohead fans in defense of Radiohead

i haven't chosen a "radiohead" yet...i dont think any music is worth obsessing and pouring over

there happy now?


as it has become apparent i know close to nothing about radiohead, i only wanted to know why people think they're so great

You're awesome pete. Not only are you the dumbest motherfucker on this board, you flaunt it. You strut it. You post shit that just screams, "look how dumb my bad ass is!"

I'm personally kind of sick of the Beatles. Maybe I'll "get" them someday. I don't think anyone who dislikes them is anti-music.

oh amy. where to start with you.
Get the White Album. listen to it beginning to end without interruption. pretend in your head it's a new album from a band you've never heard of but they are playing the Gobi Tent at Coachella 2008.

[bmack86]

Fuckin a. The White Album is one of the best things in the history of art.

[disgustipated]

I feel the same way about Tool.

ditto

[thelastgreatman]

Beatles, Tool, Radiohead, Pink Floyd. Everyone else is... something else.

[leo01g]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HDS4wOd_o1I

[leo01g]

How do i make this show on the thread?

[crazzz2007]

I'm personally kind of sick of the Beatles. Maybe I'll "get" them someday. I don't think anyone who dislikes them is anti-music.

if you don't get the beattles, you dont get music

[crazzz2007]

Beatles, Tool, Radiohead, Pink Floyd. Everyone else is... something else.

great list....this would make a perfect answer to "if you were stuck on an island and could have only 4 cds to listen to...."

[amyzzz]

oh amy. where to start with you.
Get the White Album. listen to it beginning to end without interruption. pretend in your head it's a new album from a band you've never heard of but they are playing the Gobi Tent at Coachella 2008.
You know I was just taunting you when I said Coldplay > Beatles. No hard feelings? I didn't really mean it...

[theburiedlife]

I feel the same way about Tool.

I totally agree.

People who say they cannot appreciate The Beatles have not listened to them, or have flat out lied about it.

[TomAz]

People who say they cannot appreciate The Beatles have not listened to them, or have flat out lied about it.

eh. I think it's well established that I love the Beatles, but I can defend those who have chosen not to get into them.

Beatles music is everywhere. It's on the radio, it's in stores, it's in ads, it's part of the cultural wallpaper. and since it is so pervasive it is very easy for people to just hear it as mere background, and not really take it seriously. especially when much of what you hear is Paul's lighterweight stuff.

I think it takes real effort to punch through that 'background' perception and hear the Beatles' music afresh, to hear Sgt Pepper as it would have been heard 40 years ago, for example. It takes forced, focused listening; otherwise it's too easy to just tune it out since it's already so familiar. That's why I suggested to Amy that she listen to the White Album. Of all the Beatles' music that album is probably the least present in the noise of popular culture and so may be easiest to hear outside of that context. Also it's really good.

[BlueDevil50]

if you don't get the beattles, you dont get music

thats actually a pretty stupid comment...i dont think anyone disagrees that they are one of the greatest acts in music history...but that doesnt mean everyone likes them. i cant stand to listen to more than two songs, but i sure respect em...

[PassiveTheory]

Here come the comments of "well duh, your avatar suggests such and such and that's why you're not a Beatles fan"...

Can't argue against the Beatles here... >>;

[BlueDevil50]

i dont think anyone argues AGAINST the beatles...but ya...the only people who talk shit about avatars are, well just that one ass clown, ragingdave.

[wmgaretjax]

thats actually a pretty stupid comment...i dont think anyone disagrees that they are one of the greatest acts in music history...but that doesnt mean everyone likes them. i cant stand to listen to more than two songs, but i sure respect em...

that's why he said "get..."

[DeltaSigChi4]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/521284855_58e144ca53.jpg?v=0

Do you have an extra one? I'll trade you a Los Angeles/Berkeley one for it [if you do].

E

[BlueDevil50]

that's why he said "get..."

my bad...i was interpreting it as get like understand...but ya, gotcha and cant argue with that either

theyre a major part of the formula which is music

[amyzzz]

"Yesterday" was on my car radio the other day. I didn't change it.

[PineapplePete]

Do you have an extra one? I'll trade you a Los Angeles/Berkeley one for it [if you do].

E

a LA/Berkeley what? a zoetrope?

[suprefan]

How do i make this show on the thread?

Oh come on, you were gonna pick a "safe" song from that Glasto set? No you need something like this.


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And you use the Youtube code to make a video appear.

[leo01g]

Ok here it goes these two are my favs.

[leo01g]

_DM5-pyAWtY
and of course
HDS4wOd_o1I

[kroqken]

The Beatles are fine, but I do not like Paul McCartney's solo catalogue.