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caco0283
06-14-2007, 01:41 PM
So I'm heading up one of the teams for the international 48hrs comp. I was telling one of the board members about it and he offered to throw some money in and I got the idea to make this thread while chatting with that person. If you don't know what the comp is about ill explain to you. On July 27th at 6:45pm i stick my hand in a hat and pick my genre of film. At 7pm on the 27th I have to open an envelope that has my logline. Many years ago I did this and got "Sally goes to an antique shop and finds a watch that reminds her of her grandmother" I just have to use that idea. We ended up making a dark film about Sally having the watch and it reminds her of her grandmother sexually abusing her. Yeah I know its a dumb thing to do for a comp but we were in film school and wanted to make the whole film in one shot while showing the passage of time. We actually pulled it off but lost. I've learn for shit like this you have to be commerical, so I wont be doing any people raping other people.

I got my first sponsor today that is giving me 300 bucks, now I need about 1700 bucks more to feel comfortable without having to pull out the credit cards.

So for any board member that paypals me at least $25 dollars you will get a special thanks and a dvd. If you throw in at least $100 bucks you will get a title credit "bugonyourlips presents so and so film" and the dvd. Cool?? Great thanks in advance for all people willing to help out. To those that can't spare 25 bucks I understand.

DeltaSigChi4
06-14-2007, 01:42 PM
Ever think of trying unemployment like LGM?

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caco0283
06-14-2007, 01:44 PM
Why would you even suggested that Edloser. All you do is bitch about the country getting fucked over by this person and that person and you are telling me to get UE when I don't need it

J~$$$
06-14-2007, 01:45 PM
profit share?

caco0283
06-14-2007, 01:47 PM
sorry i cant help in that department, there arent any profits in this

J~$$$
06-14-2007, 01:48 PM
What is the purpose for? Website link?

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 01:49 PM
you went to film school.

nothing for you.

caco0283
06-14-2007, 01:51 PM
well if i win for the city of miami i get to go on to the national comp....winner of miami gets an avid system and some other shit.....if i win national i get about 50grand....if i win international i get 100grand i think.

then they try to sell it on channels like sundance, i get 80% of profits they get 20% but if its that good ill take it to sundance myself or slamdance since i have friends that work on the board that choose films at both festivals

plus if it turns out good its another thing to put on my real

caco0283
06-14-2007, 01:53 PM
you went to film school.

nothing for you.

i expected to get douche remarks like this....at least one board member is helping out before i even asked

caco0283
06-14-2007, 01:54 PM
wooohoooo make that 2 board members

caco0283
06-14-2007, 01:56 PM
my paypal account is set up at ronnie.bahamon@gmail.com

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 01:59 PM
i expected to get douche remarks like this....at least one board member is helping out before i even asked

douche... how articulate. did you learn that at film school? along with how to make great stories about watch inspired rape flashbacks?

marooko
06-14-2007, 02:01 PM
you went to film school.

nothing for you.

this is funny.

J~$$$
06-14-2007, 02:01 PM
How do I enter this comp?

Hannahrain
06-14-2007, 02:01 PM
Ronnie, If I had any money I'd help out, but there's nothing to spare at the moment.

I will, however, hit wmgaretjax square in the jaw for you if we happen to cross paths. Money is sparse, but action is abundant.

thefunkylama
06-14-2007, 02:03 PM
Good work.

marooko
06-14-2007, 02:04 PM
douche... how articulate. did you learn that at film school? along with how to make great stories about watch inspired rape flashbacks?

i think i like you. no offense caco but this is funny stuff. im actually contemplating pay-paling you. really i am.

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 02:06 PM
I will, however, hit wmgaretjax square in the jaw for you if we happen to cross paths. Money is sparse, but action is abundant.

2000$ for a 48 hour film shoot? are you fucking kidding me? Are you shooting on film caco? that's the only justification for you (or anyone else) throwing money away on one of these things. I've done these before, and they are valuable learning experiences, but there is no reason to be soliciting money from people.

EDIT: generally when you ask for money you at least throw a budget out for people to check out. even if it is vague.

full on idle
06-14-2007, 02:08 PM
Ronnie, I will give you a couple benjamins but I want to be the star.

wmgalkjsdflkjx why the fuck do you care? Go drip pretension somewhere else.

Hannahrain
06-14-2007, 02:09 PM
2000$ for a 48 hour film shoot? are you fucking kidding me? Are you shooting on film caco? that's the only justification for you (or anyone else) throwing money away on one of these things. I've done these before, and they are valuable learning experiences, but there is no reason to be soliciting money from people.

It has nothing to do with the movie. I just like him better.

J~$$$
06-14-2007, 02:11 PM
ooooooh can we be in the film for a certain amount?

thefunkylama
06-14-2007, 02:16 PM
Hey yeah I didn't think about that.

mob roulette
06-14-2007, 02:16 PM
2000$ for a 48 hour film shoot? are you fucking kidding me? Are you shooting on film caco? that's the only justification for you (or anyone else) throwing money away on one of these things. I've done these before, and they are valuable learning experiences, but there is no reason to be soliciting money from people.

EDIT: generally when you ask for money you at least throw a budget out for people to check out. even if it is vague.

What about the exposure factor? Getting and keeping his name out there and in the trade circles? Doesn't that have some sort of intrinsic value? I don't know, I'm just asking.

luckyface
06-14-2007, 02:16 PM
I want to be in it, too. Can I be the janitor who teaches people life lessons?

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 02:17 PM
It has nothing to do with the movie. I just like him better.

what has nothing to do with the movie? did I ask you a question? or was I simply adressing caco in an attempt to reassert the ricidulous nature of the cliche you spouted out?

Hannahrain
06-14-2007, 02:18 PM
Ahahah. Get madder.

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 02:20 PM
What about the exposure factor? Getting and keeping his name out there and in the trade circles? Doesn't that have some sort of intrinsic value? I don't know, I'm just asking.

of course it has value. but, particularly on the internet, you should be prepared to give reasons for asking for money. Like I said, if Caco is shooting on film, that's more than a reason. Otherwise, it's really easy to pull these things together in a well-executed manner without asking people for cash. These events are awesome opportunities for people from all kinds of film backgrounds to bring their skills/equipment to the mix without needing money.

Whether it be a friend of a friend who has the camera, another guy who steadicams full time that's willing to commit to a weekend, or whatever. At least give a fucking reason for people to paypal you.

mob roulette
06-14-2007, 02:24 PM
of course it has value. but, particularly on the internet, you should be prepared to give reasons for asking for money. Like I said, if Caco is shooting on film, that's more than a reason. Otherwise, it's really easy to pull these things together in a well-executed manner without asking people for cash. These events are awesome opportunities for people from all kinds of film backgrounds to bring their skills/equipment to the mix without needing money.

Whether it be a friend of a friend who has the camera, another guy who steadicams full time that's willing to commit to a weekend, or whatever. At least give a fucking reason for people to paypal you.

Oh. What if Caco doesn't have any friends though? It seems sort of unfair to discriminate against the socially inept.

I might contribute.

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 02:25 PM
Oh. What if Caco doesn't have any friends though? It seems sort of unfair to discriminate against the socially inept.

I might contribute.

he went to film school. he has contacts that are into this kind of thing and people he can solicit to help out.

maybe I'm naive about the LA area. but up here, for events like this people (friends and otherwise) tend to love to get together for free and bring what they can to the dynamic.

mob roulette
06-14-2007, 02:27 PM
I don't know anyone with a steadicam though. Or professional editing equipment. And I know a lot of people. Wouldn't you likely have to rent a lot of that stuff or at least the post production studio? Sounds pricey.

Stefinitely Maybe
06-14-2007, 02:30 PM
Can I be in it, too? I'll be the British guy who wears a Ghostbusters cap.

full on idle
06-14-2007, 02:33 PM
Ronnie lives in Miami.

In a van.

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 03:28 PM
I don't know anyone with a steadicam though. Or professional editing equipment. And I know a lot of people. Wouldn't you likely have to rent a lot of that stuff or at least the post production studio? Sounds pricey.

yeah steadicam is tricky. I have access to one. I also have a friend who Ops for a living who I can sometimes get access too.

Professional editing equipment for film? because DV is cake nowadays (if you do it illegally).

thelastgreatman
06-14-2007, 03:38 PM
Pogo a tripod instead of stedicam, demonoid Adobe Premiere Pro.

Boom. Lightsaber.

caco0283
06-14-2007, 04:02 PM
if you dont like the way i type you fucking douche put me on ignore, now im going to amuse you for a second and its going to be fil of tpeos so na na na na boo boo.......first of all i dont have friends that work in the industry hell i worked for a production company at disney for many years...second i live north of miami but not in a van i live in under the van on biscanye blvd....3rd why does it cos 2grand simple, the HD camera Im getting is going to cost me about 800 bucks.....plus i have to feed everyone...plus im getting a chapman...plus i love art direction and putting money into it if time allows...if i have any money left im using that to take my crew and cast out for drinks the following week and paying the rest of the bill from my cash....is this a waste of time i dont think so...the first time we did it we fucked around...ive matured in my film making and will make something worth my wild.

caco0283
06-14-2007, 04:02 PM
btw i love alma

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 04:09 PM
if you dont like the way i type you fucking douche put me on ignore, now im going to amuse you for a second and its going to be fil of tpeos so na na na na boo boo.......first of all i dont have friends that work in the industry hell i worked for a production company at disney for many years...second i live north of miami but not in a van i live in under the van on biscanye blvd....3rd why does it cos 2grand simple, the HD camera Im getting is going to cost me about 800 bucks.....plus i have to feed everyone...plus im getting a chapman...plus i love art direction and putting money into it if time allows...if i have any money left im using that to take my crew and cast out for drinks the following week and paying the rest of the bill from my cash....is this a waste of time i dont think so...the first time we did it we fucked around...ive matured in my film making and will make something worth my wild.

give money to caco. get a dvd documentation of him wasting it. i can't believe you have the gall to ask for money so you can buy a camera (borrow one you fucking tool, chances are you can rent one that is infinitely nicer for 30-50 bucks a day). give me a fucking break.

anyone wanna donate money so I can buy 5 bluetooth Arduino boards for my next installation? Oh wait, I can step up on my own and get a grant of some kind. I don't need to loot people on a fucking message board.

ewiggy
06-14-2007, 04:12 PM
hey jared, how are you?

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 04:14 PM
hey jared, how are you?

pissed i missed that show the other night. moving my shit into storage before I head off to europe for three months. beyond that, i'm just trying to take it easy and catch up on sleep. you?

thelastgreatman
06-14-2007, 04:16 PM
Also Caco, I can send you the Avid software, but you'd need some serious hardware to run it properly. I still say fuck Avid though except for sound mixing--I hate the way that app interfaces, industry standards be damned.

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 04:18 PM
Also Caco, I can send you the Avid software, but you'd need some serious hardware to run it properly. I still say fuck Avid though except for sound mixing--I hate the way that app interfaces, industry standards be damned.

i've used avid briefly, is there any way to script processes yourself like in After Effects or Final Cut? Or are you stuck with canned or official add ons?

thelastgreatman
06-14-2007, 04:24 PM
I honestly don't know that much about using it--I fucking bailed on that shit faster than all hell because it was so counter-intuitive for me.

ewiggy
06-14-2007, 04:25 PM
pissed i missed that show the other night. moving my shit into storage before I head off to europe for three months. beyond that, i'm just trying to take it easy and catch up on sleep. you?

i'm great. now please stop being mean to my friends.

wmgaretjax
06-14-2007, 04:43 PM
i'm great. now please stop being mean to my friends.

yes kristen. i'm sorry.

Omar1
06-14-2007, 05:30 PM
shoot in l.a. and ill be a pa, i'll work for food.

fatbastard
06-14-2007, 06:09 PM
Good luck.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/artisan_entertainment/cecil_b__demented/_group_photos/adrian_grenier3.jpg

caco0283
06-14-2007, 10:55 PM
give money to caco. get a dvd documentation of him wasting it. i can't believe you have the gall to ask for money so you can buy a camera (borrow one you fucking tool, chances are you can rent one that is infinitely nicer for 30-50 bucks a day). give me a fucking break.

anyone wanna donate money so I can buy 5 bluetooth Arduino boards for my next installation? Oh wait, I can step up on my own and get a grant of some kind. I don't need to loot people on a fucking message board.

normally i would fight back about little cock suckers who allow their mom to suck their dicks while their sisters fuck them in the ass while their dad rapes their sisters......but i dont care about your hate...this thread was made for most of my friends here that ive known for years that have helped me out and i would do the same for them...but you have to be a FUCKING DICK FOR NO MOTHERFUCKING REASON YOU CUNT BITCH MOTHERFUCKER GO FUCK YOURSELF. ANY SIMILARITY BETWEEN YOU AND A HUMAN IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL. I could make a monkey out of you, but why should I take all the credit? You depressed motherfucker that would do society good if you just killed your mother for bringing you into this world....i would shit on your grave if it my shit wasnt going to waste

Also Caco, I can send you the Avid software, but you'd need some serious hardware to run it properly. I still say fuck Avid though except for sound mixing--I hate the way that app interfaces, industry standards be damned.

I dont work on avid...ive got 3 bays running fcp for free...thanks though randy

Jenniehoo
06-14-2007, 10:58 PM
http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1173296574-cutthatshitout.jpg

caco0283
06-14-2007, 11:14 PM
cut what out...this kid is a fucking dick for no reason...i fucking swear if hes an alias and bug if this shit is you after you told me to fucking amke this thread.....oh fucking shit......i would so just leave from the board for good....i know that wont mean shit to many of yall.....but the people that made this fucking place....the people that matter....the people that bitch about you fucking monkeys like wmgaretjackassx would care you fucking dicks

Stefinitely Maybe
06-15-2007, 12:46 AM
http://cool.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/chillaxice.jpg

marooko
06-15-2007, 06:53 AM
http://cool.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/chillaxice.jpg

this is fucking wonderful.

caco0283
06-16-2007, 12:27 PM
So when I go to the kickoff party on july 27th at 6pm i get to put my hand in a hat and pick a genre

here are the genres


If you are the lucky team that draws Musical or Western, you have the choice of making either a Musical or a Western. Or a Musical Western. (Or even a Western Musical!)

Your film must be true to the genre you have selected—and no trading with other teams! You may combine genres (e.g., a silent comedic holiday film).

Buddy Film
Comedy
Detective/cop
Drama
Fantasy
Film de Femme (see below)
Holiday Film
Horror
Musical or Western
Road Movie
Romance
Sci Fi
Spy
Superhero

If you are the lucky team that draws Musical or Western, you have the choice of making either a Musical or a Western. Or a Musical Western. (Or even a Western Musical!)

Your film must be true to the genre you have selected—and no trading with other teams! You may combine genres (e.g., a silent comedic holiday film).

2007 Wild Card Genres
Animal Film
Children's Film
Ghost Movie
Historical Fiction/Period Piece
Mystery
Silent Film (see below)
Sports Film
War Film
Film de Femme

Never heard of a Film de Femme? That's because we invented it! This genre is specifically designed by the 48HFP to encourage strong roles for females in 48HFP films. A Film de Femme is a film featuring one or more strong female characters. Romantic comedies or "chick flicks" are included in this genre, but are only a subset.

What's a strong female character? Think Police Chief Marge Gunderson in Fargo, Bette Davis in All About Eve, Reese Witherspoon in Election or Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich. Smart and complicated. Try to avoid having a woman doing a man's job like a man would do his job. And contrary to public opinion, strong women characters are not required to kill someone!




I really don't want to get fantasy, superhero, or sci-fi

if i got the wild card i might go with war (this would be a war between gangs), silent, or ghost movie

caco0283
06-16-2007, 12:29 PM
In each city, at the Kickoff Event, we will draw a character, a prop and a line of dialogue out of a hat. These elements must appear in your film in some way. All teams will have the same required elements.

Here are some examples from previous years:

Character
Bitsy Ballou, Advice Columnist
Ignazio del Fuego, Cab Driver
Hugh Simon, Bouncer
Prop
Large Suitcase
Snow Globe
Electric Fan
Line of Dialogue
Is that the best you've got?
I was lied to and very much deceived.
When you say it like that, it's almost poetry.