ENTER SHIKARI!!

[aen90]

enter shikari will fucking blow up the stage, i hope they play the second stage and closer to night, im actually looking forward to saturday just for these guys..and of course portishead.

[kingdumb]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

omg they are probally the band iam MOST excited for!
i love them so much!
their gonna blow everyone away or just annoy them!

*i got my finger lights readY!

[rkawar]

i just heard them for the first time. usually not my cup of tea, but the guitar hero-er in me enjoyed it

[donkey sex]

Prefer Shakira myself

[MassiveChemicalPunk]

someone recommended to listen to them last night. I heard a couple of tracks today from start to finish.

THEY FUCKING SUCK

[MrSheen]

they apparently work better live than on album. i got pretty bored of the album myself. if they wanted to put a heavier band on, there's a hundred better bands than Enter Shikari. hey ho though, they hjave some pretty heavy riffs and some good breakdowns...should be fun! :D

[Senor Cardgage]

These guys are pretty awful.
Generic screamy techno-laced bullshit for the Saosin set.
Im pretty sure that you are given one of their cds every time you buy an Affliction shirt. Or vice versa.

In summation, this band can eat pelican shit.

[Senor Cardgage]

Mars Volta should sneak in, rush the stage, and smash their instruments...and then leave by helicopter.

[gratytrainridesagain]

Who the fuck had the oh so brilliant idea to combine trance and hardcore to of the worst genres of music ever. I wouldn't walk across the street to shit on them if they needed a bath.

Let it go I'm pissed(drunk)

[Sushov23]

I like what I hear so far

[Senor Cardgage]

Who the fuck had the oh so brilliant idea to combine trance and hardcore to of the worst genres of music ever. I wouldn't walk across the street to shit on them if they needed a bath.

Let it go I'm pissed(drunk)

Wait...your poop...it has CLEANSING POWERS?
RAD!

[gratytrainridesagain]

My shit is a tad bit cleaner than this BS

[MassiveChemicalPunk]

Fuck man, and i thought DRAGONFORCE sucked ass, but this has taken that shittiness and put it at another level. This is one of the first bands i will DEF be avoiding. i smell 1pm GOBI.

[MonsoonSeason]

what's the difference between this and every other hardcore band?

[MassiveChemicalPunk]

what's the difference between this and every other hardcore band?

Look at this shit please.

I personally hate the mixing of bad SCREAMO with TRANCE they have done. Really bad. So, make ur own judgement:

P4MiC67seUY

EDIT: I just can't imagine the crowd this shitty band can bring to coachella if they gain more momentum... jaja

[MrSheen]

Enter Shikari & Dragonforce sound nothing like each other so you can't really compare the 2. I'm not defending either band..just saying.

Also, the difference between these and "every other hardcore band" is that they use synths and try to mix metal with "rave"...albeit, not very well.

I don't think they'll bring any sort of crowd really, as the kids that go to their shows over here in the UK probably are too young to be able to afford to travel to the US, so I think you're safe.

and they're all only kids themselves...look at em all havin fun, playing with their mates...awww bless em :)

[rkawar]

Fuck man, and i thought DRAGONFORCE sucked ass, but this has taken that shittiness and put it at another level. This is one of the first bands i will DEF be avoiding. i smell 1pm GOBI.

hey screw you buddy, dragonforce is the best homosexual speed-picking, epic butt-rock around

[Courtney]

I do not love them.

[Senor Cardgage]

This band is made out of poops

[DeadSkin]

I am acctually pretty stoked about them they rock I just heard one of their songs.

[nbvwes]

yeah, i'm excited about them too! probably the hardest band on the lineup... i'm gonna guess a late afternoon Mojave (probably just before or after Dredg)... fuck the outdoor stage before dark!


and if you try to say ANY band sounds worse live than Dragonforce, i swear i'll make you eat your own dick.

[MonsoonSeason]

not nearly as bad as the songs I heard on their myspace

interesting time signatures

still won't see them; whoever said 1pm Gobi was spot on

[Elazarus]

I personally think these guys suck ass, but you'd be surprised at how popular they are. They played at Reading festival this year and a mate of mine dragged me along to watch them, well I got out of there before the first song ended 'cos the whole tent was going fucking insane and I mean insane! I saw about three people getting dragged out as I was leaving, basically the tent was one huge moshpit.

[MassiveChemicalPunk]

Enter Shikari & Dragonforce sound nothing like each other so you can't really compare the 2. I'm not defending either band..just saying.



I wasnt really comparing the music, but the fact that i didn't know a band could SUCK more than Dragonforce.

[kingdumb]

WOW you are all pretty bitter

oh well, more for me

[aen90]

i dont blame the people who dosent like ENTER SHIKARI beacuse their ignorant, they havent developed a good ear for music, beacuse i can appreciate all good music. even if i don like it i can find what's the "deal" with it..and even more important if youre oblivious to the point just dont bad mouth.

[Memorial_07]

I hate screamo.
This is nothing special...

I'll only watch them to mosh

[B∞Rdom§]

I hate screamo.
This is nothing special...

I'll only watch them to mosh

they're NOT screamo
they're trance/hardcore
read their myspace
there's a huge difference between screaming and pig squealing

[Senor Cardgage]

This years Coheed & Cambria.
Tho they make C&C seem like friggin Zeppelin

[kingdumb]

...for all who do not like them, even live they play lots of random techno and drum and bass. the singer is also a dj! so they give "break downs" a new name!

[AEversW]

they are pretty fucking shitty.

[wstsidela]

All you haters; wait 'til they hit puberty, you be sorry. Don't say I didn't warn you :)

[Stefachink]

A friend told me about Enter Shikari a few months ago. I haven't fully checked them out yet but i was really hooked onto Sorry You're Not a Winner. I believe that any haters just aren't used to that type of music. I used to think "hardcore" music was horrible until i slowly expanded the horizons of my taste in music over the years. However, I do have my limits on "hardcore" music :) So I don't blame you if you don't like them but just don't be too ignorant and harsh about it.

[MassiveChemicalPunk]

I am sorry, but I really dislike fucking Enter Shikari. I don't hate the rock part, but when u fuse it with electronic...............wow. I'm sorry. My SHIT has more talent than this band.

[xxxxxxxxxx]

SHIT

All that needs to be said.

[mvanwinkle]

there not my cup of tea. glad i checked them out. i can cross them off the list.

[matt504hrs]

It's amusing how all the people putting them down are from the US so have most likely not seen them live before. I'm not saying they are amazing, but they are a hell of a lot better live than on record. It's all about having fun after all, if you're not enjoying yourself what's the point eh?

[IdiotequeThom]

their live show is pretty intense. Just sayin...

[sfmm4life]

ehh... i've learned after being a fan of theirs for awhile, you cant really convince anyone to like them. theyre just not everyones cup of tea. its like trying to convince someone to like Architecture in Helsinki... you cant really... you just have to hope that they hear what you hear in the music. but, if your going to bash a band, bash them, just dont think that changes fans opinions. same for fans. if someone thinks they suck balls, let the band change their minds, not you. not to be a bitch, but your opinions really dont matter once someones mind is set. hahaha
im seriously wondering why their playing coachella though....... when i saw their name i was like what????? that makes no sense... i expected them on like... a warped tour lineup... not coachella.
i dont think ill see them at coachella, because im seeing them in 2 weeks, unless theres nothing else going on. but theyre playing saturday... which means there are 30 other bands i havent seen that i want to see... so yeah. not seeing enter shikari. haha
have fun though if you are..... their live videos are pretty rad...

[rage patton]

I hope they conflict w/ Portishead/Kraftwerk

[xxxxxxxxxx]

Pitchfork actually gave them a decent review. I didn't even read it. Awful.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/47901-take-to-the-skies

[aen90]

agreed. not everyones cup of tea, but still good music, no reason to bash.

[firesuite]

I'm glad to see something so left-field at Coachella. Really looking forward to this.

[Memorial_07]

I'm glad to see something so left-field at Coachella. Really looking forward to this.

I agree.
And I think they will be quite entertaining

[GianCG]

I listened to 4 or 5 songs and watched a video or two of their past performances, and I have to say they suck. As someone said earlier in the thread, "Not my cup of tea." They don't fit the Coachella vibe, but that's my opinion. But overall disregarding my view of Coachella, musically they just make noise.

[vinylmartyr]

This is bound for heavy rotation on KROQ.

[galapagos169]

Biggest joke within my circle of friends right now: Enter Shikari.

[kingdumb]

I hope they conflict w/ Portishead/Kraftwerk

i hope they conflict too! that way its a less crowded crowd!
more for me!
i like them!

[Memorial_07]

I hope they conflict w/ Portishead/Kraftwerk

Please no.
I am not a fan of Enter Shikari, but I also would like to see their full set.
Alone with Portishead's and Kraftwerk's.

[rage patton]

Memorial... I have a feeling you are going to be facing a Turbonegro vs. Portishead/Kraftwerk conflict. Sorry.

[quicksand]

Are they this years token emo/hardcore type of band? That's what I heard from description, but I haven't listened yet.

[Memorial_07]

Memorial... I have a feeling you are going to be facing a Turbonegro vs. Portishead/Kraftwerk conflict. Sorry.

Yup.
I've been dreading that. And hopefully, that dilemma will not happen.

[Memorial_07]

Are they this years token emo/hardcore type of band? That's what I heard from description, but I haven't listened yet.

Who was the band for that categorey last year?

[Alchemy]

Wow this band sucks. I hope their purpose in Coachella is helping ensure the transition from Swell Season -> Stars -> Mum.

[nbvwes]

Enter Shikari sounds NOTHING like Coheed & Cambia (and that's a GOOD thing!hehe)... and yeah, so they're harder than most of the other bands... they'll be blowing the roof off the mojave while you're off dozing somewhere to Animal Collective or something... i actually hope they go on early, not because i don't like them but i don't want Enter Shikari, Dredg, or Flogging Molly to interfer with my evening plans for saturday...

[Matty22Fatty]

Enter Shikari is not hardcore. At some point in the late-80s/early-90s, hardcore became a scene, rather than a genre of music. Some of the sounds have been completely exploited over the past couple of years (e.g., emo, screamo, pop-punk, etc.). Every year, Coachella has one or two bands that emerged from the post-hardcore scene (Thursday, Thrice, Coheed, Circa Survive, etc.). This year, Goldenvoice has blessed us with Flogging Molly. Dredg is borderline and Enter Shikari falls flat.

I was actually hoping that Hot Water Music would be on the bill. They just had a limited reunion tour and will be playing at SXSW. They are an amazing band that would fit nicely at Coachella.

[rage patton]

Who was the band for that categorey last year?

Circa Survive and Jacks Manequin were the emo bands last year.

Enter Shikari is not hardcore. At some point in the late-80s/early-90s, hardcore became a scene, rather than a genre of music. Some of the sounds have been completely exploited over the past couple of years (e.g., emo, screamo, pop-punk, etc.). Every year, Coachella has one or two bands that emerged from the post-hardcore scene (Thursday, Thrice, Coheed, Circa Survive, etc.). This year, Goldenvoice has blessed us with Flogging Molly. Dredg is borderline and Enter Shikari falls flat.

Wait. Did you just say that Flogging Molly emerged out of the post-hardcore scene?

[Senor Cardgage]

All their songs should be called "I like to eat poop, thanks" because you can totally tell that they do.

[Memorial_07]

Circa Survive and Jacks Manequin were the emo bands last year.

Emo?
I meant because some said each year there is a hardcore/screamo band.
Did anyone fall under the hardcore category last year?

[kingdumb]

Emo?
I meant because some said each year there is a hardcore/screamo band.
Did anyone fall under the hardcore category last year?

i had to leave 3 songs into amy whinehouse on a count she was screaming too much!

....too hardcore for me!

[Matty22Fatty]

Wait. Did you just say that Flogging Molly emerged out of the post-hardcore scene?

That I did. Flogging Molly emerged out of the So-Cal scene, playing with and still often touring with post-hardcore/punk bands (e.g., HWM). The group is made up of members, who had spent time in harder (metal and hardcore) bands. In addition, while they clearly like to party, they also have a socio-conscious message in their music. Flogging Molly is obviously not a hardcore band, but, in my opinion, they are more part of the scene than a band like Enter Shikari.

I do not have any problems with Enter Shikari. I'm just saying that they are not hardcore, despte the fact that they play powerchords and scream.

[rage patton]

That I did. Flogging Molly emerged out of the So-Cal scene, playing with and still often touring with post-hardcore/punk bands (e.g., HWM). The group is made up of members, who had spent time in harder (metal and hardcore) bands. In addition, while they clearly like to party, they also have a socio-conscious message in their music. Flogging Molly is obviously not a hardcore band, but, in my opinion, they are more part of the scene than a band like Enter Shikari.

It doesn't matter what bands the other band members are from. Thats like saying if Mick Jones started playing guitar for Hannah Montana, she would automatically become a punk artist. Or if Lemmy played bass for Kelly Clarkson, she would be considered Metal. You have a horribly illogical argument.
Flogging Molly are a irish folk group who have spirit of "hardcore", if that is what you would like to call it, inside of them.

[Memorial_07]

Ha Ha!!!!!!
That was funny, Rage.

So I still haven't figured it out...
are Flogging Molly from Ireland?

[quicksand]

Enter Shikari > Dwight Yoakam
(Hardcore > Country)

[TheGlassPrison]

I'm so glad you douchebags aren't going to be there for their set.

[kingdumb]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e347/numpy41/shikari.jpg

....thats all i havta say!

...so excited!

[Matty22Fatty]

It doesn't matter what bands the other band members are from. Flogging Molly are a irish folk group who have spirit of "hardcore", if that is what you would like to call it, inside of them.

One more time: Hardcore is a scene, not a genre of music. It is not that complicated. Hardcore does NOT define what a band sounds like. There are many, many hardcore bands that do not play powerchords or scream. The scene is made up of musicians (of many different genres, including punk, folk, and metal), artists, and activists. If you still don't believe me, check out the bands Iceburn, Quicksand, Converge, Avail, Elliott and Farside - the music is all over the place, yet they are all certainly hadcore bands.

Regardless, examining only the sound of the music, Flogging Molly is not simply a folk band. The music is closer to the sound of punk than it is to folk - especially, when they play live (e.g., "Selfish Man").

Some of the members are from Ireland, but they live in CA - although, they have recently been in Ireland, recording the new CD.

[rage patton]

They are not part of the fucking hardcore "scene." How thick is your fucking skull? I know Converge and Avail... and if you think Flogging Molly are in the same "scene" as those bands, you have no idea what you are talking about.
And yes, Flogging Molly do have thier roots in punk. I consider them a "punk" band. But Jesus Christ... they are not a hardcore band. I can see how the argument can be made the Dropkick Murphys are a hardcore band, but not Flogging Molly.
And by the way, scenes are lame.

[Matty22Fatty]

They are not part of the fucking hardcore "scene." How thick is your fucking skull? I know Converge and Avail... and if you think Flogging Molly are in the same "scene" as those bands, you have no idea what you are talking about.
And yes, Flogging Molly do have thier roots in punk. I consider them a "punk" band. But Jesus Christ... they are not a hardcore band.

Ok, prick. You seriously have some aggression issues. If you actually read what I wrote, you will see: Flogging Molly is obviously not a hardcore band, but, in my opinion, they are more part of the scene than a band like Enter Shikari.

I'm glad you know 2 of the bands I mentioned. Clearly, it would be strange for Flogging Molly to play with a band like Converge - but they would play with the other bands that I mentioned (the ones still around). I've seen them play with similar bands as Avail, such as Hot Water Music.

Either way, my point was not that FM is a hardcore band. It was simply that Enter Shikari is not a hardcore band. Flogging Molly is a closer match, as is Dredg. Both bands play with post-hardcore artists and came out of the underground scene. Furthermore, I do know what I'm talking about. I grew up in the early 90s NYC hardcore scene and I studied punk/hardcore in school.

For the record, I have nothing against Enter Shikari or their music. I'm not sure I can get into it, but I will try...

[Snowy]

Piff, I like Enter Shikari. "Sorry you're not a winner" is one of my most played songs... Some songs by them do get annoying but in general I really like them.
Oh, yes!

[gratytrainridesagain]

I can't believe someone mentioned Quicksand on this board I used to love those guys then lost the cd and kinda forgot about them. I should download them. Does anyone know if they're still around?

[rage patton]

Enter Shakari sound like they are hardcore wannabes. I guess Dredg could be called hardcore. Flogging Molly can be called Irish punk.

[kingdumb]

Enter Shakari sound like they are hardcore wannabes. I guess Dredg could be called hardcore. Flogging Molly can be called Irish punk.

how nice of you to settle all of this for us!

[Matty22Fatty]

Enter Shakari sound like they are hardcore wannabes. I guess Dredg could be called hardcore. Flogging Molly can be called Irish punk.

I pretty much agree with all of this - although, I'm not sure if I'd really call Dredg hardcore. Doesn't really matter though. I think we are on the same wavelength now...and goshdangit I feel better.

Quicksand hasn't been around for over a decade. All of the members have gone on to do other projects (e.g., Fully, Handsome, etc.) and play with established bands (Seaweed and the Deftones). Walter, the lead singer, went on to various bands (most notably Rival Schools and Walking Concert). He also started a label (Some Records - home to the amazing band, Earl Greyhound) and reunited with his buddies in Gorilla Biscuits for a tour. He lives in Berlin and is working on a solo album. The songs that I've heard are great. He still plays some Quicksand songs live.

[aen90]

i just got the cd...fu@%in rocks!!!

[firesuite]

I'd just like to say, that this thread here exemplifies what I hate about the "scene" you are all talking about. Hardcore, post-hardcore, punk, etc.

Discussing the minutia behind what makes certain bands fall into certain "scenes" is one thing, but denouncing and insulting others for their opinions or even *GASP* misinformation, is exactly the type of behavior that destroyed the ethos that was the lifeblood of the the almighty, untouchable hardcore scene.

You should be ashamed of yourselves if you are doing anything other than channeling your knowledge and/or opinions positively.

[kingdumb]

i think enter shikari and SIA should do a RAGE cover?!?!?

YESH YESH?!?!?

[Stainofmind]

Circa Survive is not emo.

Enter Shikari might bring the ruckus I hope.

[GoEastYoungMan]

Refused should find these guys and beat the shit out of them.

[eskomo one]

by far the worst thing ive heard in a long time.. i hope they have heat strokes and shit in their little mesh shorts.

[jackstraw94086]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e347/numpy41/shikari.jpg

....thats all i havta say!

...so excited!

what about that is exciting to you?

[eskomo one]

lets take e!! guitars and glow sticks go hand and hand

[aen90]

how much u wanna bet, that their will be more people than you expected seeing enter shikari?

and i ill go double on you that their will be even more people the next day saying that they fu**ing owned.

[PassiveTheory]

how much u wanna bet, that their will be more people than you expected seeing enter shikari?

and i ill go double on you that their will be even more people the next day saying that they fu**ing owned.

I still won't give a damn.

[eskomo one]

who gives a shit what 13-17 year old girls think any way? people who go to coachella are just trendy people. their no longer there for the music. so yeah theyll be a million people standing around like sheep everywhere. not that theyre listening.

[aen90]

im 27....and listening.

[PassiveTheory]

im 27....and listening.

Well, at least it makes you feel young.

[eskomo one]

thats 1 out of 50,00 people. when you go to chella fest look around you and see's who's listening.

[sfmm4life]

well... i saw them.
and they weren't terrible... it all depends on the crowd really.
and i can already tell.... its not going to be good at coachella.
haha

i saw them with emmure and darkest hour....
and they didnt fit in there.
just imagine at coachella....
awkwarrrdddd....

really really nice guys though...


of course, there are WAYYYYYYYYYY better hardcore bands then ES (who i agree, really arent hardcore at all).
i could name like....10 off the top of my head.
theyre just like... a guilty pleasure for some i guess.
at least for me.

but oh well.

im just still totally lost as to why they're playing coachella.
i get that they play all the european festivals, but this is totally different.
they would be waaaaaaayyyyy more appreciated by the warped tour crowd.

[vxgasattack]

There's a lot of Enter Shikari hating going on on these boards but I have to say that now that the Killers aren't playing, Enter Shikari and Deathcab for Cutie are probably the two non-electronic acts that I'm looking forward to the most.

[frozen pilgrim]

I've played below and above more bands that sound EXACTLY LIKE ES than I could shake a broken drumstick at.
they're not original, they're certainly not hardcore by ANY definition of the word, and, above all, they're not even entertaining. all of the band members, including the vcalist, rely completely on expensive gear and production to hide their total lack of creativity and talent.
being able to flange a double kick pedal doesn't make you a good drummer. neither does downstroking a single note lead or using your fingers on a touchpad to change an envelope filter.
bands should either innovate, or be really talented, or both. ES fails miserably on both fronts.

every one of their songs sounds like the chorus to 'sic transit gloria' by brand new.

if ES fits into ANY category, they're emo.
mother. fucking. emo.

if you disagree, you're a stupid little emo bitch, and if you don't agree with THAT

wanna fight about it, bitch?

[frozen pilgrim]

There's a lot of Enter Shikari hating going on on these boards but I have to say that now that the Killers aren't playing, Enter Shikari and Deathcab for Cutie are probably the two non-electronic acts that I'm looking forward to the most.

when the fuck were the killers playing?!

wow. ES and deatch cab.
you're one of those emos who give DCFC a bad name.
I'm not a fan of deatch cab, but if I was, I'd be ashamed of the plethora of eyelinered, notebook coveting, bad poetry writing, awful facial piercing sporting emo kids who seem to lump them in with PaTD and MCR

[gratytrainridesagain]

did you not see his avatar

[frozen pilgrim]

did you not see his avatar

I very much did. >.<

[PassiveTheory]

I've played below and above more bands that sound EXACTLY LIKE ES than I could shake a broken drumstick at.
they're not original, they're certainly not hardcore by ANY definition of the word, and, above all, they're not even entertaining. all of the band members, including the vcalist, rely completely on expensive gear and production to hide their total lack of creativity and talent.
being able to flange a double kick pedal doesn't make you a good drummer. neither does downstroking a single note lead or using your fingers on a touchpad to change an envelope filter.
bands should either innovate, or be really talented, or both. ES fails miserably on both fronts.

every one of their songs sounds like the chorus to 'sic transit gloria' by brand new.

if ES fits into ANY category, they're emo.
mother. fucking. emo.

if you disagree, you're a stupid little emo bitch, and if you don't agree with THAT

wanna fight about it, bitch?

Now if only you'd not hate on Rilo Kiley I might find it in my cold, unforgiving heart to POSSIBLY like you.

Otherwise, QFT.

Also... Why are there still people posting in this thread trying to hype this shitty band? Fucking annoying.

[Beef Jerky]

People actually like this band?

[frozen pilgrim]

aww, still upset about my dislike for jenny?

takeoffs and landing has some good tracks on it, I just am not a personal fan. could have to do with having it played in a loop for two weeks at work by my lesbian boss.

others are free to like RK, though. they won't get any flameage from me.


actually, I'd love to see jenny lewis beat up the singer of ES.
well, I'd like to see just about ANYONE beat that kid up.

so yeah. passive, let's be friends!

[instinct]

This is the worst Coachella band ever.. I'm going to bump my thread about it.

[algunz]

you suck

[frozen pilgrim]

I hereby promise this board that I will do a trance remix of enter shikari vs jack johnson, and I will hand out cds in the campground to anyone that wants one.
(normally I never mix trance- I'll make a deliciously ironic exception here. or hey! if we're going annoying, how about a happy hardcore remix?)

you guys pick the JJ and ES songs, since I don't know any.
also, feel free to suggest any other "worst of coachella" mashup ideas.
I'm going out to pick up a new control rig for my setup and I want some challenges!

[JClemy]

They suck so hard it makes me want to vomit on a CD and tell everyone that that is an Enter Shikari bootleg

[bleedthesky]

i like how people talk shit about this band...then pay a shit load of money to fly over seas to see shittier bands. if you dont like enter shikari shut your fucking mouth..and get the fuck outa coachella