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wmgaretjax
03-14-2008, 03:00 PM
Southland Tales was bullshit. I enjoyed the first 2/3rds but got tired of it's aimlessness. There were some really funny and beautiful parts, but as a whole it sunk. Worth watching though.
jackstraw94086
03-14-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm comfortable with my ignorant scorning of Into The Wild as being a pompous Mountain Dew/York Peppermint Pattie commercial.
thelastgreatman
03-14-2008, 03:03 PM
Southland Tales was bullshit. I enjoyed the first 2/3rds but got tired of it's aimlessness. There were some really funny and beautiful parts, but as a whole it sunk. Worth watching though.
... you gotta be fucking kidding me. You're fucking with me, right?
PotVsKtl
03-14-2008, 03:05 PM
Okay, I don't get it. You made reference to the specific meaning of symbolism within visual art. Are you just speaking generally? You don't mean the Symbolism in visual art that's a style, like Impressionism is?
The Symbolist movement did not invent the concept of symbolism, they employed it as a reaction to Realism.
mob roulette
03-14-2008, 03:06 PM
After getting the "I hate Sean Penn" smackdown about it I realized that it is a bit overdramatically sentimental but I liked Mystic River, a lot.
This is why. I don't really care for Mystic River all that much, precisely because it's the point where Sean Penn's whole "I'm the greatest actor of my generation" bullshit really shines through the most. It's a decent script but he plays his character here with so much goddamned melodrama and gravitas that I never feel like I'm watching an actual person. I bet he's a great director though.
Also having said that,
I even liked Laura Linney, and she usually sets my teeth on edge. I loved her monologue to Sean Penn about being "king of the household". Very moving.
I think this is the best part of the movie.
thelastgreatman
03-14-2008, 03:11 PM
Alright, dude, this is really silly to still be talking about, but when you referred to symbolism as having a very specific meaning within the context of visual art, I assumed that you were talking about Symbolism, not just the concept of symbolism that has existed throughout all art. So I was wrong about that? Okay. But then I don't get what the specific meaning in the context of visual art you're referring to is. I mean, alright, I guess yeah actual visual symbols like shapes and even letters and shit like that are kinda their own bag compared to symbolism in, say, Greek plays. But... fuck, it's completely different mediums.
mob roulette
03-14-2008, 03:17 PM
Jesus Christ Randy. Let it go.
mob roulette
03-14-2008, 03:17 PM
Let's go get drinks. I'll buy.
thelastgreatman
03-14-2008, 03:20 PM
Cyanide, rocks, lime.
Make it a double, I guess.
jackstraw94086
03-14-2008, 03:24 PM
I don't even understand what you're saying. There was one corporate logo thing in the whole movie that I can remember, and it was relevant.
It has nothing to do with corporate logos.
Have you not seen mountain dew commercials? Do remember the old York Peppermint Pattie commercials?
Young blood
03-14-2008, 03:26 PM
xtreme!
paulb
03-15-2008, 01:34 PM
I saw Detroit Rock City last night for the 1st time...that was pretty entertaining... Im glad they made it into the concert...
kitt kat
03-15-2008, 01:40 PM
i saw funny games last night. it made me want to cry.
also......the guy looked like win butler
http://sketchytown.com/images/arcadegames.jpg
miscorrections
03-15-2008, 02:10 PM
SO MOVIES, YEAH
I LIKE THEM, DO YOU?
paulb
03-15-2008, 02:21 PM
I find movies shallow and pedantic... shallow and pedantic
STALINZZZ
03-15-2008, 02:28 PM
Tom , I am curious where did you go to school?
kitt kat
03-15-2008, 03:03 PM
SO MOVIES, YEAH
I LIKE THEM, DO YOU?
hahahahahahaha you stole the words right out of my mouth.
+1
thelastgreatman
03-15-2008, 03:13 PM
See that, Corinna? You and Kitt Kat think EXACTLY alike?
Nothing surprising there.
Bud Luster
03-15-2008, 03:15 PM
Movies can suck Randy's cock, or he can face fuck them, or whatever...
miscorrections
03-15-2008, 03:16 PM
It's all symbolic. Tom, I hate you. Cocks. Drugs. Do something to <---- this face, I dare you.
miscorrections
03-15-2008, 03:17 PM
I think I just summed up 98% of everything you've ever said. I left all the extra insults out just to be concise.
thelastgreatman
03-15-2008, 03:17 PM
Kitt Kat is Corinna's alias. Spread the word.
KungFuJoe
03-15-2008, 04:21 PM
I just saw Funny Games.
Going to go hang myself now.
bye.
Yablonowitz
03-15-2008, 05:16 PM
Poor Gabe's movie corner.
keriann
03-15-2008, 05:37 PM
I never thought I would see the day that someone on the board would threaten Tom's life. That's pretty hilarious.
thelastgreatman
03-15-2008, 05:42 PM
I didn't threaten his life. I never said I was GOING to kill him. Just that I'd kinda like to. =)
rage patton
03-15-2008, 05:45 PM
Did Tom delete all his posts on the last page? Because it looks like Randy is getting mad at Tom and arguing by himself for no reason. And it made me laugh.
thelastgreatman
03-15-2008, 05:49 PM
What a clever girl he is. Chico State taught him well. I'm gonna have to do the same now, bleh.
Yablonowitz
03-15-2008, 06:17 PM
What a clever girl he is. Chico State taught him well. I'm gonna have to do the same now, bleh.
Both of my brothers went to Chico State you fuck. One has a PhD from Purdue and the other a masters in Physics from the University of Illinois.
Tom's not smart enough to get into Chico.
TonyWonder
03-15-2008, 06:56 PM
So I went to see this tonight:
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I don't know what to say about it...
I can best describe it as 'bleak'.
Definitely not a date movie.
iv3rdawG
03-15-2008, 07:05 PM
So Snow Angels was great. David Gordon Green seemed very nice. There were also only like 30 or so people at our screening so it was pretty cool.
noisemachine
03-15-2008, 08:33 PM
So I went to see this tonight:
<a href="http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Zach462/?action=view¤t=funnygames1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Zach462/funnygames1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
I don't know what to say about it...
I can best describe it as 'bleak'.
Definitely not a date movie.
Is it true that this is a shot-for-shot remake of the original?
TonyWonder
03-15-2008, 09:43 PM
Is it true that this is a shot-for-shot remake of the original?
I haven't seen the original but I've read that it's shot by shot.
schoolofruckus
03-16-2008, 06:20 AM
Alive.
Need to see Funny Games, Paranoid Park, and Snow Angels sometime soon.
And No Country For Old Men again, apparently.
The 2008 version of Hulk is a remake because everyone hated the last one, and because the world cannot exist without a good Hulk movie.
The symbolism in a Bob Ross Original derives not from the waterfall, but from the waterfall's friends.
Hannahrain
03-16-2008, 06:33 AM
The happy little shrubs? I've never looked at it that way before. That's deep. Deep like the shimmering lake in front of the little barn.
I understand everything all of a sudden. Thank you, Gabe.
mob roulette
03-16-2008, 12:28 PM
Talk about voice of reason.
Mr.Nipples
03-16-2008, 01:46 PM
I guess david gordon green is directing the suspiria remake. I loved george washington and ive heard great things about snow angels so this has me really fucking excited...
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kitt kat
03-16-2008, 02:07 PM
Is it true that this is a shot-for-shot remake of the original?
ahahahaha yes! after we watched the us version on friday, my roommate and i searched for and found the austrian original on google video. it is, indeed, a shot for shot remake.
but, it still scared us...so much that last night, we just got high and watched ratatouille for something more lighthearted.
Neutral Milk Hotel
03-17-2008, 08:24 AM
Snow Angels is 2/3 of a masterpiece. The 1/3 that isn't masterpiece happens to have the strongest acting in the entire film, but it isn't as tonally steady as the rest of the film. The stuff that is great is great in a way that David Gordon Green's stuff has been great in the past, but since David Gordon Green is the only person making films like this, I'll happily take it. Here he creates one of the most authentic and warm-hearted depictions of the awkward beginnings of teenage love that I've ever seen. Olivia Thirlby completely atones for Juno with a completely endearing performance here; I kept thinking that had Juno been played at the level of Snow Angels, it actually would have lived up to the monster hype. I'll also note here that I ended up seated next to Justin Long and Drew Barrymore, and talked with Green himself about how some guy had given him Steven Seagal's phone number, making this one of the most head-spinning nights ever.
TomAz
03-17-2008, 09:31 AM
I have been to three different places trying to buy a copy of NCFOM on Blu-Ray. fuck it. I wound up having to order it on Amazon.
schoolofruckus
03-17-2008, 12:43 PM
Funny Games 2008 was good. Stomach-turning, technically marvelous, and one of the most absorbingly-acted films I can recall seeing. At this point in time, I'm not sure that I personally need to be scolded for cinematic bloodlust - I feel like the point being made here would have carried a much greater weight if I'd been watching the original back in 1997 - but even in somewhat familiar form, the ideas in this film's head are definitely worth considering. I guess this is a form of atonement for Warner Bros., after releasing 300 - one of the penultimate violence-sold-as-sexy-entertainment offenders of all time - almost exactly one year ago to the day this was put out.
amyzzz
03-17-2008, 08:11 PM
I just watched Doomsday. I think I probably need to be bitchslapped with Funny Games after watching all that gratuitous violence. but it was fun.
thelastgreatman
03-17-2008, 08:12 PM
Finally saw Juno. Movies like this are always encouraging, 'cause they reaffirm the impossibility of me not getting an Oscar.
ghettojournalist
03-18-2008, 02:05 AM
The 2008 version of Hulk is a remake because everyone hated the last one, and because the world cannot exist without a good Hulk movie.
it's not an exact remake since it will not redo the origin story. the film is more based on Banner trying to get rid of his Hulk-ness. also, the main villain is the Abomination. there are a handful of elements that are being redone in the new flick, though.
KungFuJoe
03-18-2008, 03:49 AM
I just watched Doomsday. I think I probably need to be bitchslapped with Funny Games after watching all that gratuitous violence. but it was fun.
I've already been bitched slapped by Funny Games, but I still plan on catching a matinee of Doomsday this week.
I will balance it out with a little CJ7.
amyzzz
03-18-2008, 08:37 AM
My husband was thoroughly impressed with the kickass hot babe in Doomsday. She has muscles! The only mistake the movie made was there were no true zombies. You can't have a movie like that without zombies of some sort! Cannibals are OKAY, I guess. Not the same though.
thelastgreatman
03-18-2008, 09:38 AM
how would an Oscar make you feel lw?
Eh. Odds are I'd say something in the speech that would guarantee they'd never invite me back.
wmgaretjax
03-18-2008, 09:51 AM
Eh. Odds are I'd say something in the speech that would guarantee they'd never invite me back.
Well... The shortest Oscar speech ever was "Thank You." Maybe you could top that with "Cunt."
thelastgreatman
03-18-2008, 09:56 AM
Well... The shortest Oscar speech ever was "Thank You." Maybe you could top that with "Cunt."
... "cunt" is not exactly unlikely to be part of it, truthfully.
Hannahrain
03-18-2008, 09:56 AM
Well, when the movie you're winning for has "cunt" in the title, you can't exactly avoid the term in the acceptance speech.
thelastgreatman
03-18-2008, 10:01 AM
Ha. I wish. Although, "Cunts In Education" might have a better ring than "Partners In Education."
wmgaretjax
03-18-2008, 10:37 AM
Who said the shortest Oscar speech ever, William?
Hitchcock
luckyface
03-18-2008, 11:23 AM
Tropic Thunder trailer (http://filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=1351)
kitt kat
03-18-2008, 02:04 PM
Finally saw Juno. Movies like this are always encouraging, 'cause they reaffirm the impossibility of me not getting an Oscar.
So you can agree with me that it blows?
I just read Diablo Cody's new script last night (my friend works for Searchlight and gave me a copy) and....oh yeah. It blows, too.
I didn't know that someone coule be so dense and idiotic to create characters who act and speak in the same way as characters in a previous work...but she did it. This is JUNO, PT. 2---The Horror Version.
Some of my favorite lines from the movie:
JENNIFER: Hey, Vagisil.
NEEDY: What's up, Monistat?
JENNIFER: You're so jello! You're lime green jello, and you don't even know it!
NEEDY: Hey look. It's Ahmet, that exchange student from India!
There also must be about 3493280432 product placements and pop culture references sprinkled throughout the script. (You know, because a lady's gotta earn more money, I guess.) But honestly, after reading a joke about a Swiffer, folled by a joke about Zac Efron, it gets dated and old.
Plus, she gives away the entire movie through a flashback scene around page 12.
Oh yeah. I forgot.
THE ENTIRE PLOT IS DRIVEN BY VOICE OVER AND FLASHBACKS. Ughhhh. It really, truly, sucks. Hard.
Diablo Cody is a one-trick pony, ladies and gents.
thestripe
03-18-2008, 02:09 PM
JENNIFER: Hey, Vagisil.
NEEDY: What's up, Monistat?
JENNIFER: You're so jello! You're lime green jello, and you don't even know it!
NEEDY: Hey look. It's Ahmet, that exchange student from India!
When I read this I can even hear the voice of chick who played Juno.
kitt kat
03-18-2008, 02:11 PM
i know.
Needy is supposed to be played by this girl: http://imdb.com/name/nm1086543/
but i kept thinking it was ellen paige the whole time.
Boourns
03-18-2008, 02:14 PM
You're so jello? Wow. Yeah, Diablo Cody's style definitely centers around something of a gimmick. Building a career consisting of one movie that connected with a lot of people, followed by a bunch with the same gimmick that make progressively less and less money and receive less and less acclaim is still highly profitable.
WHAT A TWIST!
kitt kat
03-18-2008, 02:26 PM
y'all want a piece?
here's a scene. honest to blog. (HAH)
INT. KETTLE HIGH HALLWAY - AFTER SCHOOL
Needy digs through her locker, carefully selecting textbooks to take home. Jennifer skips up to her, smiling.
JENNIFER
Hey, Monistat.
NEEDY
What’s up, Vagisil?
JENNIFER
You and me are going out tonight.
She checks herself out in Needy’s locker mirror.
NEEDY
Tonight? Why?
JENNIFER
Soft Shoulder are playing at the Carousel. And it’s all-ages, for once, which means I won’t have to play Hello Titty with the door guy.
NEEDY
What’s Soft Shoulder?
JENNIFER
They’re this indie band from the city. I saw their MySpace and the singer is extra salty. And there will be lots of other salty morsels there for you. Come on Needy, it’s the weekend!
NEEDY
It’s Thursday.
JENNIFER
Thursday counts as the weekend in college. And we’re going to be in college twenty-three months from now. University of Northern Minnesota Duluth- woo!
Needy continues loading her backpack.
JENNIFER (CONT’D)
Please, please you’re a social disease?
NEEDY
I have to study.
Jennifer pouts. With an outstretched finger, she draws a dramatic X in the air over Needy and boos loudly.
JENNIFER
(shouting)
Boo! Cross out Needy!
Needy blushes, shrinking self-consciously. She obviously hates to displease Jennifer.
NEEDY
Fine. What time is the show?
JENNIFER
I’ll pick you up at 8:30. My mom has a date with that guy who owns the ham store.
NEEDY
He seems nice.
JENNIFER
(smirking)
Yeah, Mom says he’s got a huge...heart. So huge he gave her a recurring bladder infection. Wear something cool, okay?
NEEDY
Okay.
noisemachine
03-18-2008, 02:32 PM
sounds like a winner
nationocean
03-18-2008, 03:15 PM
I read Kristin Gore's script a couple of weeks ago called Nailed. I really loved her work on Futurama but this script was awful. I felt bad. But they are still making it with David (O. I will punch you in your face) Russell as the director.
schoolofruckus
03-18-2008, 04:29 PM
So you can agree with me that it blows?
I just read Diablo Cody's new script last night (my friend works for Searchlight and gave me a copy) and....oh yeah. It blows, too.
I didn't know that someone coule be so dense and idiotic to create characters who act and speak in the same way as characters in a previous work...but she did it. This is JUNO, PT. 2---The Horror Version.
Some of my favorite lines from the movie:
JENNIFER: Hey, Vagisil.
NEEDY: What's up, Monistat?
JENNIFER: You're so jello! You're lime green jello, and you don't even know it!
NEEDY: Hey look. It's Ahmet, that exchange student from India!
There also must be about 3493280432 product placements and pop culture references sprinkled throughout the script. (You know, because a lady's gotta earn more money, I guess.) But honestly, after reading a joke about a Swiffer, folled by a joke about Zac Efron, it gets dated and old.
Plus, she gives away the entire movie through a flashback scene around page 12.
Oh yeah. I forgot.
THE ENTIRE PLOT IS DRIVEN BY VOICE OVER AND FLASHBACKS. Ughhhh. It really, truly, sucks. Hard.
Diablo Cody is a one-trick pony, ladies and gents.
You are my new best friend.
schoolofruckus
03-18-2008, 04:31 PM
y'all want a piece?
here's a scene. honest to blog. (HAH)
INT. KETTLE HIGH HALLWAY - AFTER SCHOOL
Needy digs through her locker, carefully selecting textbooks to take home. Jennifer skips up to her, smiling.
JENNIFER
Hey, Monistat.
NEEDY
What’s up, Vagisil?
JENNIFER
You and me are going out tonight.
She checks herself out in Needy’s locker mirror.
NEEDY
Tonight? Why?
JENNIFER
Soft Shoulder are playing at the Carousel. And it’s all-ages, for once, which means I won’t have to play Hello Titty with the door guy.
NEEDY
What’s Soft Shoulder?
JENNIFER
They’re this indie band from the city. I saw their MySpace and the singer is extra salty. And there will be lots of other salty morsels there for you. Come on Needy, it’s the weekend!
NEEDY
It’s Thursday.
JENNIFER
Thursday counts as the weekend in college. And we’re going to be in college twenty-three months from now. University of Northern Minnesota Duluth- woo!
Needy continues loading her backpack.
JENNIFER (CONT’D)
Please, please you’re a social disease?
NEEDY
I have to study.
Jennifer pouts. With an outstretched finger, she draws a dramatic X in the air over Needy and boos loudly.
JENNIFER
(shouting)
Boo! Cross out Needy!
Needy blushes, shrinking self-consciously. She obviously hates to displease Jennifer.
NEEDY
Fine. What time is the show?
JENNIFER
I’ll pick you up at 8:30. My mom has a date with that guy who owns the ham store.
NEEDY
He seems nice.
JENNIFER
(smirking)
Yeah, Mom says he’s got a huge...heart. So huge he gave her a recurring bladder infection. Wear something cool, okay?
NEEDY
Okay.
HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH AH HA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH HA HA HA
No, seriously - you are my favorite person on the board right now.
schoolofruckus
03-18-2008, 04:32 PM
I read Kristin Gore's script a couple of weeks ago called Nailed. I really loved her work on Futurama but this script was awful. I felt bad. But they are still making it with David (O. I will punch you in your face) Russell as the director.
Which means it will be awesome.
kitt kat
03-18-2008, 07:37 PM
HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH AH HA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH HA HA HA
No, seriously - you are my favorite person on the board right now.
i can't tell if you think i made it up or not...but it's 100% legit.
but i can't tell what's worse....the script, or the fact they got the chick who directed aeon flux to direct it. but hey, bad script + awful director = box office flop.
either way, it started filming in vancouver this week. so there ain't no stoppin' it now.
mountmccabe
03-18-2008, 07:46 PM
Soft Shoulder is the name of a local band in Phoenix. I like them.
Neutral Milk Hotel
03-18-2008, 07:53 PM
bad script + awful director = box office flop.
Man, that explains why Transformers didn't make any money.
Still, Jennifer's Body will flop. I'd also be careful posting stuff from the script, not that the suits from Fox will see this forum, but someone posted a lot of the stuff you did and more on his site a few months ago and was forced to take it down.
kitt kat
03-18-2008, 08:06 PM
yeah, i read that. but a whole bunch of other sites have full synopsis, quotes, and a lot more than i posted.
oh, and there's a difference between "bad director" as in "zomg makes hollywood explosion films lol lol lol" and a legitimately bad director without any sense of cinematic technique. sure, michael bay makes "shitty" (as in would never win an oscar) "box office" movies, but the man knows how to make a goddamn movie. he chooses what will make money. i'm sure if he did a serious movie without the intent of grossing 394238043209 bajillion dollars, he could pull it off.
Neutral Milk Hotel
03-18-2008, 08:16 PM
You really think Michael Bay could pull off a serious drama, a Traffic, an In the Bedroom? Come on. It's not so much that Bay is a good director, it's more like it would take a true champion fuck-up to completely fail to make money on the high concept, filled with megawatt star vehicles he gets handed routinely.
PS: Since when does "choosing what will make money" have anything to do with one's talent as a director? I guess David Lynch is a bad director then.
thelastgreatman
03-18-2008, 09:11 PM
Aeon Flux is better than anything Michael ever made.
fikus222
03-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Yeah Liquid Television Rawked !!!
Neutral Milk Hotel
03-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Don't know about that, I've never seen Aeon Flux, but I do enjoy a few Bay flicks, although the enjoyment has nothing to do with what be brings to the table (or, as the case may be, takes from the table)
thelastgreatman
03-18-2008, 09:17 PM
Michael Bay has never made a movie even half as good as Aeon Flux, which wasn't that good. Sorry.
Neutral Milk Hotel
03-18-2008, 09:43 PM
It's cool. The only one I like is Armageddon, and that's probably mostly a nostalgia thing.
whynotsmile99
03-18-2008, 10:24 PM
The Rock was awesome when it came out. I dunno if that holds up. And Bad Boys was great when I was 13. Bad Boys 2 is one of the worst movies ever made, however.
Hannahrain
03-18-2008, 10:39 PM
There are people who like Armageddon?
mountmccabe
03-18-2008, 11:05 PM
When I saw Armageddon in the theater my jaw dropped open quickly and then I was overwhelmed and started laughing by about 5 minutes in and didn't stop until I was walking out. It was serious enough in tone and ridiculous enough in reality so as to be hilarious.
It's not something that I'd choose to watch again, though. I mean, Buscemi is always fun, but, yeah.
Hannahrain
03-18-2008, 11:06 PM
DON'T WANNA CLOOOOSE MY AAAAHS, I DON'T WANNA FAAAALLLL ASLEEP
I feel like this just came up somewhere else.
miscorrections
03-18-2008, 11:07 PM
'CAUSE I MISS YOU BABY AND I DON'T WANNA MISS A THIIIII-IIIIIING
miscorrections
03-18-2008, 11:08 PM
I love you, honeybunch.
schoolofruckus
03-19-2008, 07:31 AM
yeah, i read that. but a whole bunch of other sites have full synopsis, quotes, and a lot more than i posted.
oh, and there's a difference between "bad director" as in "zomg makes hollywood explosion films lol lol lol" and a legitimately bad director without any sense of cinematic technique. sure, michael bay makes "shitty" (as in would never win an oscar) "box office" movies, but the man knows how to make a goddamn movie. he chooses what will make money. i'm sure if he did a serious movie without the intent of grossing 394238043209 bajillion dollars, he could pull it off.
http://www.releaseinfo.net/ri/cover/new_velka/1178287860-pearl_harbor_ver10.jpg
That said, I'm very much of the belief that when Michael Bay sticks to films that are only supposed to be mindless, apeshit fun - The Rock, and yes, Bad Boys 2, one of the most unapologetically obscene action comedies of all time - he can definitely deliver a good time. Which is why I enjoyed Transformers so much.
It was eons better than Juno, at the very least.
schoolofruckus
03-19-2008, 07:34 AM
And kit katt, I absolutely believe that the excerpts you posted from Jennifer's Body are legit. Basically, I'm grateful to you for giving me hope that Cody's latest screenwriting hate-crime is going to get Strokes-circa-"Room on Fire" backlash when it comes out.
Stefinitely Maybe
03-19-2008, 07:49 AM
ffDPTKn7HiY
PotVsKtl
03-19-2008, 10:39 AM
I like Room On Fire. Juno should do a cover of 12:51.
schoolofruckus
03-19-2008, 11:25 AM
I actually like "Room on Fire" a lot - far more than "Is This It?".
I bet I will like Jennifer's Body more than Juno as well, if for no other reason than that it will remove the empress' leopard-print clothes.
HowToDisappear
03-19-2008, 04:15 PM
After a month and a half of attempts (they never had a copy on the shelf), we finally rented The Assassination of Jesse James. We were vastly underwhelmed. Visually, it's one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. Each scene --- so elegantly shot, composed and lit --- was like seeing the best of 19th century American photography and landscape painting brought to life. Simply stunning. Deakins really should have received the Oscar.
But the film itself is sooo ponderously slow. The clunky, voice-over narration grates. And Brad Pitt, no favorite of mine, never came together for me as Jesse. I preferred all the Pitt-less scenes (Casey Affleck, Sam Rockwell and Paul Schneider are all good). Whenever Brad was on camera, I kept wishing Casey Affleck would just get it over with already and shoot him in the head. And when he finally did, the damn movie just kept going.
And then to make matters worse, we watched Into the Wild, which may just send me into another rant (so sorry, FOI. If you don't like my recommendation of Across the Universe, you may certainly berate me for that one).
Next weekend, my husband insists we rent some mindless action movie.
Yablonowitz
03-19-2008, 04:44 PM
I am so sorry you were unconscious during Jesse James, Howtodisappear. I know how it goes, though. Happens to me all the time.
wmgaretjax
03-19-2008, 04:59 PM
I am so sorry you were unconscious during Jesse James, Howtodisappear. I know how it goes, though. Happens to me all the time.
seriously... and delusional during "Across the Universe."
schoolofruckus
03-19-2008, 05:27 PM
After a month and a half of attempts (they never had a copy on the shelf), we finally rented The Assassination of Jesse James. We were vastly underwhelmed. Visually, it's one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. Each scene --- so elegantly shot, composed and lit --- was like seeing the best of 19th century American photography and landscape painting brought to life. Simply stunning. Deakins really should have received the Oscar.
But the film itself is sooo ponderously slow. The clunky, voice-over narration grates. And Brad Pitt, no favorite of mine, never came together for me as Jesse. I preferred all the Pitt-less scenes (Casey Affleck, Sam Rockwell and Paul Schneider are all good). Whenever Brad was on camera, I kept wishing Casey Affleck would just get it over with already and shoot him in the head. And when he finally did, the damn movie just kept going.
And then to make matters worse, we watched Into the Wild, which may just send me into another rant (so sorry, FOI. If you don't like my recommendation of Across the Universe, you may certainly berate me for that one).
Next weekend, my husband insists we rent some mindless action movie.
Ow ow ow my heart.
amyzzz
03-19-2008, 07:36 PM
After a month and a half of attempts (they never had a copy on the shelf), we finally rented The Assassination of Jesse James. We were vastly underwhelmed. Visually, it's one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. Each scene --- so elegantly shot, composed and lit --- was like seeing the best of 19th century American photography and landscape painting brought to life. Simply stunning. Deakins really should have received the Oscar.
But the film itself is sooo ponderously slow. The clunky, voice-over narration grates. And Brad Pitt, no favorite of mine, never came together for me as Jesse. I preferred all the Pitt-less scenes (Casey Affleck, Sam Rockwell and Paul Schneider are all good). Whenever Brad was on camera, I kept wishing Casey Affleck would just get it over with already and shoot him in the head. And when he finally did, the damn movie just kept going.
And then to make matters worse, we watched Into the Wild, which may just send me into another rant (so sorry, FOI. If you don't like my recommendation of Across the Universe, you may certainly berate me for that one).
Next weekend, my husband insists we rent some mindless action movie.
QFT. My husband and I didn't really like it either. Sounds like maybe we have similar taste in movies.
HowToDisappear
03-20-2008, 12:13 AM
I am so sorry you were unconscious during Jesse James, Howtodisappear. I know how it goes, though. Happens to me all the time.
You poor, unenlightened soul. What you call unconsciousness, I call a highly exalted, alternate plane of existence.
Ow ow ow my heart.
I knew that would kill you. Didn't you have it first or second on your best of 2007 list?
Seriously, I can't stand Brad Pitt. If only Sam Shepard were twenty (maybe twenty-five) years younger, he would have rocked as Jesse. His part as Frank was too brief.
schoolofruckus
03-20-2008, 11:43 AM
It was second. And it could have easily been first. I thought Brad Pitt - matinee icon that he is - was perfect for that depiction of Jesse. But I also liked having Sam Sheppard around; it enriched the visual parallels with Days of Heaven.
PotVsKtl
03-20-2008, 12:29 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4oqpf_walle-final-trailer-vo_shortfilms
schoolofruckus
03-20-2008, 12:39 PM
I love it - particularly the fact that there's a human in that trailer for less than a full second. I really hope the movie has the stones to keep people out of it for the most part and just make a movie about robots.
Stefinitely Maybe
03-20-2008, 12:50 PM
http://techdigest.tv/dead_lolcats.jpg
Hannahrain
03-20-2008, 12:51 PM
It's amazing how effective computer animation looks when everything is dirty-looking and mottled instead of smooth and perfect and bright.
Young blood
03-20-2008, 12:54 PM
I can't wait for WALL-E. Im happy that it is a love story.
PotVsKtl
03-20-2008, 02:40 PM
The baptism scene in There Will Be Blood is one of the most satisfying experiences of my life.
Young blood
03-20-2008, 02:46 PM
I enjoyed it more than the ending. I had no fucking clue that Daniel day Lewis was British/Irish until I read up on him after the movie. I was blown away. He owned that role. He deserves to win the oscar for best actor for next year too. fuckit.
thelastgreatman
03-20-2008, 02:47 PM
Do they drown the baby or something?
thestripe
03-20-2008, 03:14 PM
I enjoyed it more than the ending. I had no fucking clue that Daniel day Lewis was British/Irish until I read up on him after the movie. I was blown away. He owned that role. He deserves to win the oscar for best actor for next year too. fuckit.
He owns every role he plays.
Neutral Milk Hotel
03-20-2008, 03:29 PM
Do they drown the baby or something?
It's Plainview's baptism.
schoolofruckus
03-20-2008, 03:31 PM
There's a moment during that scene where SPOILERS you can see in his eyes that something just fucking snaps, pushing him from bitter and misanthropic to the point of full-on insanity. And in that moment, he swears to himself that somehow, someway, he's going to destroy Eli Sunday if it fucking kills him.
It's one of the best and - especially for such a bombastic character - most subtle acting gestures I believe I've ever seen.
schoolofruckus
03-20-2008, 03:32 PM
It's Plainview's baptism.
And yet, to a certain degree, the answer to Randy's question is "Yes".
thestripe
03-20-2008, 03:32 PM
Fucking spot on Gabe.
PotVsKtl
03-20-2008, 03:36 PM
I TOLD YOU I WOULD EAT YOU UP! I TOLD YOU I WOULD EAT YOU UP!
thestripe
03-20-2008, 03:36 PM
Gabe I was reading the 1st post in this thread, and you mentioned that you had no interest in seeing "The Last King of Scotland". I felt the same way but I recently saw it on HBO or something, and I kind of enjoyed it. Did you ever end up seeing it?
keriann
03-20-2008, 03:50 PM
I would be more interested in Wall-e if it was about Hot Shot.
PotVsKtl
03-20-2008, 04:24 PM
I'd be more interested in Hot Shot if he were voiced by Daniel Day-Lewis.
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ghettojournalist
03-20-2008, 04:56 PM
holy crap, i shall enjoy Wall.E so much!
KungFuJoe
03-21-2008, 01:32 AM
Mister Loney looks great. I love Samantha Morton.
Not as much as I love Asia Argento.
http://blogs.lexpress.fr/Cannes/boarding.jpg
I'm a big Assayas fan.
Harmony Korine's films I need to watch over again, though this new one looks quite different than his previous.
schoolofruckus
03-21-2008, 10:02 AM
Gabe I was reading the 1st post in this thread, and you mentioned that you had no interest in seeing "The Last King of Scotland". I felt the same way but I recently saw it on HBO or something, and I kind of enjoyed it. Did you ever end up seeing it?
I did not ever catch it. Although, after seeing how good James McAvoy was in Atonement, it made me want to see it more. But god, the trailers looked awful. And I'm sure Forest Whitaker was good and all, but I just can't envision that the movie will appeal to me that much.
schoolofruckus
03-21-2008, 10:06 AM
I'd be more interested in Hot Shot if he were voiced by Daniel Day-Lewis.
_zY6DmvTJBs
Oh my God.
AWESOME
schoolofruckus
03-21-2008, 10:12 AM
I liked Paranoid Park a lot. It's maybe only an 8 or so by Gus Van Sant standards, but that makes it a 9 or 9.5 by anyone else's. Visually incredible, as to be expected. I loved the way Alex's voice-over was so shaky because he lacked confidence in his writing abilities.
canexplain
03-21-2008, 11:06 AM
we never go to movies, so i always behind the curve on most flicks ... anyway, i got atonement yesterday, so we will watch that tonight .... saw the will smith flick last night, i was dissapointed with the cgi, didnt think it was up to par, but i enjoyed the vid ... i keep forgetting will used to be just some dumb kid rapper .. boy did he do well ... x****
breakjaw
03-21-2008, 08:01 PM
I just got back from Rocky Point and needed a day to decompress,and so i just laid around and took Vicodin and ended up finally watching "About A Son",the kurt Cobain documentary.What a great film.Truly profund and sad.I loved the scenes where he was talking about Olympia and K Records and the scene there,and how he was still an outsider,even there.It made me sad for all the millions of after-effects of divorce that are unforeseen.
roberto73
03-22-2008, 06:46 AM
Twentynine Palms is a French film written and directed by Bruno Dumont that is one of the most pointlessly monotonous and brutal films I’ve ever seen. It is not, I should add, the same 29 Palms that stars Jeremy Davies, Chris O’Donnell, and Carlos Mencia. That movie also sucks, but in a completely different way that I don't feel like talking about right now.
Twentynine Palms is a movie that has, as far as I can tell, no discernible purpose. Here’s the plot (and if you think this is something you’d ever want to see, skip the rest of this post): An American man and a French woman drive to the high desert. They listen to bad music in their Hummer, drive in silence on desert roads, strip naked and walk through Joshua Tree National Park, and then they have sex in the motel swimming pool. The next day they drive some more, they have an ice cream cone, and then the woman blows the man in the motel swimming pool. The next day they go driving, the guy hits a dog with the Hummer, then the couple gets in an argument and wrestles in the street. This day, no sex acts take place in the motel swimming pool, but she does blow him in their motel room, and then they have some pizza. On the final day, they – you guessed it – go driving again. But this day, a white pickup truck forces them off the road. Three desert rednecks (which, I have to say, based on my ten years in the 29 Palms vicinity, looked startlingly familiar) drag the couple out of their Hummer. They strip the woman, punch her a time or two, and then rape the man. I would be lying if I said this didn’t come out of nowhere. Somehow the couple ends up back at the motel room. Understandably, they don’t have sex. The woman, however, does go out for pizza. When she returns, the man stabs her repeatedly and kills her, then goes out to the desert and kills himself. Credits roll.
If your reaction to this summary is, What the fuck?, you are not alone. I think I get the existential drift of the movie – the randomness of their conversations, the aimlessness of their driving, the suddenness and brutality of the violence – but it’s not, in my estimation, a movie that needed to be made. This is, of course, just my opinion, refracted through my particular lens, and I have to admit that there are small pleasures to be found in the movie: the desert photography is pretty spectacular, filmed, as it is, in and around the city of 29 Palms and Joshua Tree National Park; the tone of the couple’s drives is unusual – long, silent shots where the camera focuses on a character’s face and the scenery rushing past the window; and who doesn’t like pizza? But otherwise, the movie is generally boring for 1 hour and 45 minutes, and then pointlessly violent for 10 minutes. The characters give the viewer nothing to relate to or be entertained by; their conversations are the merest sketches of dialogue, uttered in semi-coherent English and French; and unless you have a thing for watching a couple talk, then have sex, then argue, then eat, then be terrorized and sodomized by hillbillies, there’s simply not much to recommend this movie. It’s like Deliverance, if Jon Voight had been a French chick who blew Burt Reynolds in their canoe.
I know I’ve been flippant, but in my completely subjective, non-elitist, pro-French, sodomy-free view, Twentynine Palms doesn’t do anything except confirm that the world is a horrible place – mostly boring, and punctuated by random acts of rape and violence. I didn’t need to wade through two hours of desert scenery, sub-Beckett conversation, and ugly swimming pool sex to arrive at this conclusion.
thelastgreatman
03-22-2008, 06:58 AM
Fucking awesome--I've always wanted someone to transport the bullshit existentialism excuse for total boredom of The Stranger to a major motion picture. God I hate existentialism.
schoolofruckus
03-22-2008, 11:13 AM
Roberto, that was one of the most perfect film reviews I have ever read. I actually saw that film at the Nuart back in '03 or '04. It's not entirely devoid of merit - but those merits are basically restricted to what you listed, and do not sustain the rest of the film's . This is the kind of film that people who hate the likes of The Brown Bunny or Gerry - films who play a similar game but have so much more going on inside - can point to as evidence of pretension gone awry, and I'm kind of helpless to fight back.
roberto73
03-22-2008, 12:36 PM
Thanks, Gabe. Gerry is actually what I kept thinking about while watching Twentynine Palms. Maybe it was the desert location, maybe it was the tone, but I wished I had been watching Gerry instead. Actually, I would have been happy watching just about anything instead.
Hannahrain
03-22-2008, 05:35 PM
Gabe, I stumbled across this (http://www.amazon.com/Funstreet-Games-4099483-Ruckus/dp/B000BXKMR2) at the store today. If we were best friends, I'd have bought it for you. But seeing as how I could probably count our interactions over the past year on one hand, I thought it'd be just a little weird. If by this time next year it takes both hands and a foot, though, I'll think about it.
paulb
03-22-2008, 05:43 PM
I watched Ghost the other day, oh man that was soooo good.
roberto73
03-22-2008, 06:46 PM
Any G.I. Joe fans out there? A couple stills from the upcoming movie version that make my inner 9-year-old weep with joy.
Snake Eyes:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7664/snakeeyessmallbt2.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3429/snakeeyes2qp4.jpg
thelastgreatman
03-22-2008, 06:53 PM
After Transformers, how can you possibly weep with joy at the thought of a movie adaptation of GI Joe?
roberto73
03-22-2008, 06:59 PM
For someone so obsessed with symbolism, you do take things literally.
thelastgreatman
03-22-2008, 07:01 PM
Ooo, unrecognized sarcasm face coupled with internal thread reference face.
Damn. Good work.
kitt kat
03-23-2008, 02:12 AM
I just watched Le Samourai, and I must say, while the movie was great, the lead actor added about 500% more sexy to the storyline.
Ugh. I think I'm in love with an old French dude.
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/06/40/le-samourai.jpg
schoolofruckus
03-23-2008, 10:57 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b126/schoolofruckus/eclisse.jpg
wmgaretjax
03-23-2008, 11:53 AM
Stan Brakhage?
wmgaretjax
03-23-2008, 12:14 PM
That's the guy.
I really like his work, but it can be really overwhelming.
An anecdote: Brakhage LOVED Tarkovsky. Absolutely worshipped the guy. When he finally got a chance to meet him he wanted to show Tarkovsky all his films, because he felt that he had been so inspired by his work. Tarkovsky hated them, he thought they were total bullshit. But Brakhage kept pulling out the next one, getting rejected again and again. Then he wrote an essay in which he said this:
"The three greatest tasks for film in the 20th century are (1) To make the epic, that is to tell the tales of the tribes of the world. (2) To keep it personal, because only in the eccentricities of our personal lives do we have any chances at the truth. (3) To do the dream work, that is, to illuminate the borders of the unconscious. The only film maker I know that does all these three things equally in every film he makes is Andrei Tarkovsky, and that's why I think he's the greatest living narrative film maker."
ghettojournalist
03-23-2008, 09:49 PM
Yes! Ray Parks as Snake Eyes.
PotVsKtl
03-24-2008, 11:11 AM
On the 30th of April 2008, Kenneth Anger will present two new works at the Donaufestival in Austria. First up is the world premiere of his highly anticipated feature film Ich Will! (I want!) followed by the audiovisual live-performance project Technikolor Skull which features Liars and other special guests.
http://www.liarsliarsliars.com/news/
wmgaretjax
03-24-2008, 11:27 AM
http://www.liarsliarsliars.com/news/
holy shit that would be cool.
schoolofruckus
03-25-2008, 09:47 AM
Snow Angels is 2/3 of a masterpiece. The 1/3 that isn't masterpiece happens to have the strongest acting in the entire film, but it isn't as tonally steady as the rest of the film. The stuff that is great is great in a way that David Gordon Green's stuff has been great in the past, but since David Gordon Green is the only person making films like this, I'll happily take it. Here he creates one of the most authentic and warm-hearted depictions of the awkward beginnings of teenage love that I've ever seen. Olivia Thirlby completely atones for Juno with a completely endearing performance here; I kept thinking that had Juno been played at the level of Snow Angels, it actually would have lived up to the monster hype. I'll also note here that I ended up seated next to Justin Long and Drew Barrymore, and talked with Green himself about how some guy had given him Steven Seagal's phone number, making this one of the most head-spinning nights ever.
I'm guessing the last third is the third you didn't like?
I liked Snow Angels quite a bit. The narrative wasn't remarkably original - but as you said, the fumes of David Gordon Green's filmmaking are welcome in nearly any setting (although I don't necessarily agree that a DGG-helmed version of Juno would be enough of an improvement, it's an interesting idea). I also was kind of amazed by Olivia Thirlby in this film - she's now off the shit list. Kate Beckinsale, too - I think this was the first film I've seen her in that I didn't virulently hate. And Sam Rockwell is always, always, always great.
schoolofruckus
03-25-2008, 10:30 AM
I did not. Tell me about it.
PotVsKtl
03-25-2008, 10:35 AM
It's got titties.
mob roulette
03-25-2008, 10:39 AM
I don't know if this has been covered yet, but I am also demanding the seal of disapproval on this. I think.
TktOCF-iBTQ
wmgaretjax
03-25-2008, 10:48 AM
that looks pretty terrible. I haven't heard anything good about it either.
Stefinitely Maybe
03-25-2008, 11:21 AM
I watched this movie last night:
http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/4/75644-large.jpg
Adapted from a play by David Mamet, with a decent director, and with a cast including William H Macy, Mena Suvari, Denise Richards and, err, the dude who played Norm in Cheers, I really didn't think it could be that bad. I was wrong.
It tries to be somewhere between Taxi Driver, Falling Down and American Psycho, with Macy as the protagonist who leaves his wife and job and heads into the city and eventually ends up a loner in jail, but it fails on all counts. The dialogue is horribly wooden, and cod-philosophical, and the themes of racism and homophobia are handled really badly, with no real resolutions or justifications. Avoid this movie.
thestripe
03-25-2008, 12:39 PM
It's got titties.
That's not enough for you, Full?
wmgaretjax
03-25-2008, 12:45 PM
Gabe I haven't seen it either but it just came in the mail from Netflix. I don't even really feel like watching it. I don't feel like watching anything lately. I can't concentrate. I wanted someone to tell me that it sucks so that I can just send it back and get Annie Hall because it's next.
It sucks. And Annie Hall doesn't. Easy decision?
PotVsKtl
03-25-2008, 12:47 PM
I watched this movie last night:
http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/4/75644-large.jpg
Adapted from a play by David Mamet, with a decent director, and with a cast including William H Macy, Mena Suvari, Denise Richards and, err, the dude who played Norm in Cheers, I really didn't think it could be that bad. I was wrong.
It tries to be somewhere between Taxi Driver, Falling Down and American Psycho, with Macy as the protagonist who leaves his wife and job and heads into the city and eventually ends up a loner in jail, but it fails on all counts. The dialogue is horribly wooden, and cod-philosophical, and the themes of racism and homophobia are handled really badly, with no real resolutions or justifications. Avoid this movie.
Your Mom is cod-philosophical.
whynotsmile99
03-25-2008, 12:55 PM
i like Edmond. It certainly had major problems but it was a strange, fascinating watch. Macy was amazing in it
schoolofruckus
03-25-2008, 12:57 PM
I liked Edmond as well. It was a more hallucinatory take on the same territory as Falling Down. I can't say I understood everything this one was doing, but I've yet to watch a Mamet-related film that didn't at least entertain me significantly.
Valarie, there are only so many movies you can watch in a lifetime. You might as well spend your time watching the best ones you can get your hands on.
Stefinitely Maybe
03-25-2008, 01:43 PM
But why does the world need an Edmond when we already have a Falling Down?
wmgaretjax
03-25-2008, 01:48 PM
I thought Edmond was pretty lame. I wasn't bored, but I certainly wasn't satisfied when it was all said and done.
thelastgreatman
03-25-2008, 02:04 PM
Prozac Nation features possibly the single most annoying female lead of all fucking time.
schoolofruckus
03-25-2008, 02:10 PM
The fact that so many people know what Prozac Nation is made me go look it up. I remember hearing about this one now.
It sounds like a drag to me. I'd say send it back and get your "la di da" on, ASAP.
jackstraw94086
03-25-2008, 02:25 PM
Prozac Nation made me want to smack the shit out of my TV just on the off chance that Ricci might somehow feel it. I'd have kicked it too if it had anything resembling a minge.
wmgaretjax
03-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Deconstructing Harry is my favorite Woody Allen movie. But I love Annie Hall and Zelig.
thelastgreatman
03-25-2008, 02:28 PM
So many points awarded for invoking "minge."
Seriously. I fucking love Christina Ricci, have ever since she was Wednesday, but that performance was everything that women did to start getting beaten by their husbands in the first place.
thinnerair
03-25-2008, 02:49 PM
I saw 'Shoot 'em Up' last night and thought it was pretty entertaining. Sort of in that "snakes on a plane" awesomely-bad category.
Young blood
03-25-2008, 02:59 PM
Who got a job at the movie theater?
schoolofruckus
03-25-2008, 03:20 PM
So, there's a movie called Fanboys that depicts some hardcore Star Wars fans trying to break into the Skywalker Ranch in 1998 to see The Phantom Menace. The original version of this film - which was made by some actual hardcore Star Wars fanboys - depicts one of the fanboys having cancer, and thus the reason for them to try to sneak a peek at Episode 1 is because he will probably die before it comes out. But Harvey Weinstein has bought the film, and decided to re-shoot and re-edit it (with some studio stooge who makes lesser Adam Sandler movies and shit like Drillbit Taylor) so that the cancer element is gone, and the film just makes the fanboys look like retards. Naturally, real-life fanboys everywhere are pissed as hell.
I personally don't care what happens to this movie, because neither side will have the balls to make the version that should exist (i.e., where the sick fanboy watches Episode 1 and then commits suicide because of how bad it is). It's either going to be a tear-/circle-jerk affair, or a disjointed lowbrow "comedy". But I must admit to laughing at the Weinstein parody that some of the film's most rabid protestors have made:
G3XPojcUoWs
TomAz
03-25-2008, 03:37 PM
wait
for Weinstein to have bought the film, doesn't it mean that somebody must have had to have sold it to him? And -- just guessing here -- was that 'somebody' the people who made the original Fanboys? and now they're bitching about what he wants to do with it, even though they were happy to take his money? do I have this right?
Neutral Milk Hotel
03-25-2008, 03:43 PM
I'm guessing the last third is the third you didn't like?
I liked Snow Angels quite a bit. The narrative wasn't remarkably original - but as you said, the fumes of David Gordon Green's filmmaking are welcome in nearly any setting (although I don't necessarily agree that a DGG-helmed version of Juno would be enough of an improvement, it's an interesting idea). I also was kind of amazed by Olivia Thirlby in this film - she's now off the shit list. Kate Beckinsale, too - I think this was the first film I've seen her in that I didn't virulently hate. And Sam Rockwell is always, always, always great.
It's not so much the ending, more that I didn't think the Rockwell/Beckinsale story really cohered with anything else. It works well on its own terms, but I don't know that Green always had the best handle on the tone of some of that material, especially since it was so different from what he usually excels at. Still, like I said it worked on its own terms.
PS: One awesome thing is that during the Q&A Green seemed to obliquely hate on Juno. What he was complaining about was movies where "teenagers talk wittily about pop culture", but come on. I should have asked him about it when I got to talk to him.
thelastgreatman
03-25-2008, 03:51 PM
wait
for Weinstein to have bought the film, doesn't it mean that somebody must have had to have sold it to him? And -- just guessing here -- was that 'somebody' the people who made the original Fanboys? and now they're bitching about what he wants to do with it, even though they were happy to take his money? do I have this right?
Tom, you have no idea the extent to which Harvey Weinstein has fucked over the filmmakers whose movies he bought. "buying" a film is supposed to be purchasing the distribution rights, but Harvey (and Bob too, but not nearly as much) has an unbelievable track record of lying right to these people who puts years of effort into making a film and then as soon as he has the distribution rights he basically demands to make whatever fucking changes he wants.
I recommend anyone interested in the Weinsteins, film in general, and particularly the indie film movement of the 90s to read Down And Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film. Great read, gives you a lot of insight into what really goes on in the industry of releasing independent movies. Will also make you kinda fucking hate Harvey Weinstein, but admire his balls.
TomAz
03-25-2008, 03:56 PM
so even with this "unbelievable track record" that everyone in the industry seems to know about, they sold it to him anyway? dumb
The original filmmakers may not be media moguls, but they are not children, either. they have some responsiblity here.
thelastgreatman
03-25-2008, 04:03 PM
I wasn't saying they're not idiots for not expecting it. They probably were expecting that he would cut out 10-15 minutes (that used to be his big thing) but had to weigh the reward against the pain and decided they were willing to accept the usual Harvey treatment of their movie.
But, fuck, reshooting and completely changing the story? Goddamn, man. I don't even think he's ever done that before. He's forced the filmmakers to go reshoot and change the story, but I don't believe he's ever just gone and filmed new shit and thrown it in on his own. That's pretty nightmare-ish as a filmmaker.
I will never, ever deal with the Weinsteins. It would have to end in fistfights, since that's another one of Harvey's legendary traits.
mob roulette
03-25-2008, 04:32 PM
Will also make you kinda fucking hate Harvey Weinstein, but admire his balls.
Exactly. Film making in America is a dirty business and Harvey Weinstein looks like like a fucking champ from where I'm sitting. A rose by any other name. But whatever.
thelastgreatman
03-25-2008, 04:39 PM
Well, he used to--in the 90s. Nowadays, not so much. Plus, I will never forgive the cocksucker for making Tarantino cut back on the ending for Kill Bill. That blew my fucking mind.
Seriously, read that book though, it's great shit in the Miramax story. Billy Bob Thornton became one of my favorite people ever just because he was the only person who actually stood up to Harvey after they bought Sling Blade. He sold it to them for 1 mil but with final cut guarantee--which meant nothing with the Weinsteins. They would give directors a final cut clause in the deal and then tell them to either make the changes they wanted or they'd let the movie completely tank/never be released at all, even if they payed 500k for it--just on the principle that Harvey always gets his way.
Billy Bob, though, told him to go fuck himself. "I'm a hillbilly from Arkansas and you gave me a million dollars, you dumb fuck. I don't care if you never release it, I'm not cutting one second." Awesome.
mountmccabe
03-25-2008, 04:56 PM
But why does the world need an Edmond when we already have a Falling Down?
Edmond was first done in 1982, well before Falling Down was a movie. I have not seen or read any version of the play, though.
Last night I saw 21. It was based on a book which was based on the MIT Blackjack Team but this movie is highly fictionalized. As far as I can tell. It stars one of the annoying guys from Across the Universe, Kevin Spacey and Kate Bosworth and also Larry Fishburne as the guy trying to catch them.
It was mostly engaging and interesting but most of the "they do this a lot" sequences were stupid. The frame is ridiculous.
It is not deep or special but it is entertaining, mostly.
amyzzz
03-25-2008, 05:03 PM
Jim Sturgess is not annoying. He's fuckin HAWT. (he's in my avatar)
PotVsKtl
03-25-2008, 05:42 PM
Walk Hard is a Scary Movie level piece of shit.
mountmccabe
03-25-2008, 08:01 PM
The joke was that everybody in Across the Universe was annoying.
mob roulette
03-25-2008, 08:18 PM
Across The Universe is like what would happen if you gave Hamlet to the Bravo network. You wouldn't think they could screw it up given the source material, but there you go.
whynotsmile99
03-25-2008, 10:38 PM
ACross the Universe was awful, but I said my peace about that some pages back
I saw Stop-Loss tonight. It was really, really well done. Great acting across the board, especially Ryan Philippie. Ending irked me a bit and the whole thing was a bit uneven, but a very honest, well made film. Kimberly Peirce is a great writer/director. Can't believe this is only her second film since Boys Dont Cry.
amyzzz
03-26-2008, 08:38 AM
I thought AtU was magical, so whatever. Musicals aren't necessarily supposed to have a perfect story behind them. The Strawberry Fields Forever and the Happiness Is a Warm Gun sequences were particularly moving and wonderful.
Also, I loved Boys Don't Cry, so maybe I should look into Stop-Loss.
PotVsKtl
03-26-2008, 08:53 AM
Yeah but you're retarded.
amyzzz
03-26-2008, 08:56 AM
You can always resort to that if you have nothing interesting to contribute to the conversation.
Hannahrain
03-26-2008, 08:57 AM
So if I'm to understand this correctly, Amy is rubber and Pot is glue?
schoolofruckus
03-26-2008, 11:03 AM
I wasn't saying they're not idiots for not expecting it. They probably were expecting that he would cut out 10-15 minutes (that used to be his big thing) but had to weigh the reward against the pain and decided they were willing to accept the usual Harvey treatment of their movie.
But, fuck, reshooting and completely changing the story? Goddamn, man. I don't even think he's ever done that before. He's forced the filmmakers to go reshoot and change the story, but I don't believe he's ever just gone and filmed new shit and thrown it in on his own. That's pretty nightmare-ish as a filmmaker.
I will never, ever deal with the Weinsteins. It would have to end in fistfights, since that's another one of Harvey's legendary traits.
Here's what I don't get: Harvey's idea was to reshoot and reimagine key scenes that supply motivation for the entire story. In order to make these scenes match the rest of the footage, they would need the 3-4 (I'm just guessing) lead actors who play the fanboys. And apparently, those actors participated in the re-shoots. How could they play along with this? Unless all four of them are complete and total mercenaries who are just looking to be in a film that gets released, with no love for the film's concept and story as originally presented to them, it's UNFATHOMABLE to me that they could turn on a dime and say "Okay, we tried to make the fanboys lovable and relatable; now we're going to make them self-parodies". Even if the original version of the film flat-out don't work (as I've heard).
mob roulette
03-26-2008, 11:11 AM
Exactly. I guess money does talk then.
In related news, Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid was on TV last night. Not his best work of course, and not necessarily through any fault of his own, if you know the backstory, but it was still pretty fucking great. I still heart Peckinpah so much. That's all I really wanted to say, I guess. Six thumbs up.
schoolofruckus
03-26-2008, 02:55 PM
And Randy - that Billy Bob Thornton story is fucking priceless. I loved him already, but that line should be his epitaph.
If any of you are still interested in this whole Fanboys thing - and I'm not, really, so I'm not sure why I'm keeping this going - here is a review of both movies by Moriarty (the only decent Ain't It Cool News writer). If the stories of this film have transfixed you into wanting to see it, and you desire to keep the surprises unspoilered, then you should not read.
Okay. FANBOYS. I assume if you’re interested at all in the film, you read Quint’s piece this morning.
And I’m sure you’ve read many pieces about the film over the years here on the site. FANBOYS has been highly-anticipated by Harry and many, many others, and I sincerely hope that they enjoy it when they finally see the finished film. During this entire process... for as long as the film’s been discussed here on the site... I never read any drafts of it or saw any rough cuts of it. I was aware of it, but when I finally sat down this year and saw three different cuts of the film in three successive days, I got a pretty good idea of what I think the reasons are behind all of the “tampering” from the studio.
FANBOYS isn’t very good.
I wish it was. And I think in theory, FANBOYS might be decent. It’s just that in execution, it misses the mark, and for me, it starts with the very first scene. From the moment that Eric (Sam Huntington), Linus (Chris Marquette), Hutch (Dan Fogler), and Windows (Jay Baruchel) are put together, I don’t buy them as friends.
Remember what I said about DRILLBIT? I’ll forgive that film some of its weaknesses because of the chemistry of its cast. Here, it’s the opposite. This innocuous little comedy ends up becoming fairly painful because of the lack of chemistry between the leads. Huntington and Marquette are the defining relationship of the film. Their broken friendship and the gradual rebuilding of it forms the main dramatic arc of the film, and it never seems to me at any point like Huntington and Marquette are even interested in being in the same room with one another. It’s not even just bad chemistry; it’s almost like they’re magnets with opposite charges, repelling each other.
And regarding the much-debated “cancer or no cancer” debate... it ultimately doesn’t matter, and that’s a pretty damning statement about the movie. Again... we’re talking about execution and not intent here. In theory, a film about a group of friends trying to give a dying buddy his last wish could be very sweet and moving and funny and all sorts of other things. Could be. But the cancer here is mentioned a few times, but it barely seems to affect Linus. Marquette may be the main problem for me overall, since it’s his lack of chemistry with Huntington and his seemingly consequence-free cancer that bother me. The fact that it was so simple to delete it from the film and still have the film play pretty much exactly the same should say everything that needs to be said about it. Fans keep trumpeting the fact that “there are only two points between the scores on the two versions when they test them,” but what does that tell you? With or without cancer, it’s the same film. I actually think it plays more coherently the other way. In that version, Worthington gave up being a comic book artist to become a car salesman, and he ended up screwing Marquette over in the process since he was supposed to write the comics that Worthington would draw. The road trip isn’t about someone dying... it’s about someone’s love of fandom dying, and his friends reminding him of why that fandom is important. When people who haven’t seen both cuts complain that the new version “disrespects fans,” it seems to me that they’re wrong. I think the non-cancer version makes more sense out of Marquette being pissed off at Worthington, and it also makes it all just comedy instead of whipsawing between broad comedy and maudlin sentiment. I didn’t love any version of the film I saw, but if I had to pick, I would actually vote against the cancer.
Thankfully, you won’t have to pick. Both versions will be available on video. And if they don’t go theatrical at all, it’s not the end of the world. At least people will be able to finally see the thing. There are good things in the film, no doubt. Kristen Bell makes the most of an undercooked role, but the reshoots actually helped put her in more of it, which turns out to be a good idea. She doesn’t save the film, but she certainly doesn’t hurt it. Seth Rogen evidently plays 375 different roles in the film, including “Star Trek Dork,” “Klingon,” “Crazy Scary Guy,” and “Billy Dee Williams.” If you’re the sort of STAR WARS fan where all it takes is a cameo by a familiar face to make you happy, then you will no doubt love this film. Ray Park, Carrie Fisher, and “Billy Dee Williams” all appear, but I honestly didn’t think any of the appearances were particularly funny or worthwhile. It’s more like a checklist. “Okay... yeah, that was someone from a STAR WARS film. Got it.” Like most of the STAR WARS references throughout the film, the jokes all feel a little threadbare. I think this film is simply too late to work, in addition to all of it’s bigger execution issues. Kyle Newman’s the credited director on the film, and Steven (DRILLBIT TAYLOR) Brill handled the majority of the reshoots and the reshaping of the film, and the result is exactly what you think it is... a sort of a Frankenstein thing made up of some good pieces and some bad pieces.
I was at a press event with Frosty from Collider.com, and he and I have known each other for about 10 years now. One of the most important things we bonded over was STAR WARS. When the subject of this film came up, it was obvious that Frosty is far more fond of it than I am, and I explained to him all the things that I think are wrong with it.
“Yeah, but I just love STAR WARS,” he said. “You have to understand... I was a huuuuuuuge fan back in the day.”
I have a feeling that’s going to be the thing that most people who enjoy this film will say. It will remind them of something personal, and that personal memory will be what they attribute their love of the film to. And that’s fine. If it works for you on that level, then fine. But I was a huge STAR WARS fan my whole life, and that didn’t make this film any better in my opinion.
You’ll see for yourself once The Weinstein Company sets a release date for both versions on DVD.
Down Rodeo
03-27-2008, 01:33 PM
I finally finished watching Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy last night, and I was amazed. I think Red is more intellectually rich, but Blue, so heavily stylized, is probably my favorite after first viewing. What a work of art those movies are.
marooko
03-27-2008, 01:35 PM
THE HAMMER
Anyone gonna watch it, or have you?
wmgaretjax
03-27-2008, 01:37 PM
I finally finished watching Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy last night, and I was amazed. I think Red is more intellectually rich, but Blue, so heavily stylized, is probably my favorite after first viewing. What a work of art those movies are.
Yes on all accounts.
I watched Michael Clayton last night. I thought it was fucking fantastic.
iv3rdawG
03-27-2008, 01:56 PM
THE HAMMER
Anyone gonna watch it, or have you?
I want to see it. Only because I'm a loyal listener of Carolla every morning.
marooko
03-27-2008, 03:03 PM
I want to see it. Only because I'm a loyal listener of Carolla every morning.
the man is pretty damn funny.
Its gotten pretty good reviews so far. The closest theater to me thats showing it is like an hour away. maybe we'll go next weekend. this weekend we're gonna go watch some fights.
anti-square
03-27-2008, 05:18 PM
I have a paper I need to do for my film class and I have to chose a musical. I have not seen any that I recall other than disney films when I was a kid. I was considering Singing in th Rain or The Blues Brothers. Do you guys recommend something better?
Down Rodeo
03-27-2008, 05:29 PM
I actually think My Fair Lady is really good. Haven't seen Singin' In The Rain, but it's extremely well regarded.
iv3rdawG
03-27-2008, 05:34 PM
I enjoyed Yankee Doodle Dandy quite a bit.
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Great performance by Cagney.
amyzzz
03-27-2008, 05:39 PM
West Side Story! My Fair Lady is good, Sound of Music is good, and so is South Pacific.
I also like Across the Universe, but I don't know if that counts.
edit: also, Chicago and Moulin Rouge (the newer one)
PotVsKtl
03-27-2008, 05:40 PM
Hedwig.
whynotsmile99
03-27-2008, 05:42 PM
I love Singing in the Rain. It's just as enjoyable as it once was. West Side Story is great as well
anti-square
03-27-2008, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll let you guys know which one I end up doing this paper on.
ghettojournalist
03-27-2008, 10:53 PM
The Broadway Melody of 1929.
the first musical to win Best Picture and, apparently, still holds up.
algunz
03-27-2008, 10:59 PM
Thanks for the recommendations. I'll let you guys know which one I end up doing this paper on.
What are you supposed to be writing about? It might make a difference in which movie you should choose?
wmgaretjax
03-27-2008, 11:12 PM
Hedwig.
the man speaks truth.
rage patton
03-27-2008, 11:21 PM
Woh. I had no idea any of this was going on with Fanboys. I have been waiting for that movie for a while, and I find out all this is going on. This sucks. The movie looked like it was going to be so great. Now, it just seems lame. Plus, the Weinsteins are the one who keep putting out those "_____ Movie" movies? Seriously? Do those movies still actually make money?
Well, he used to--in the 90s. Nowadays, not so much. Plus, I will never forgive the cocksucker for making Tarantino cut back on the ending for Kill Bill. That blew my fucking mind.
What did he do the end of Kill Bill?
Billy Bob, though, told him to go fuck himself. "I'm a hillbilly from Arkansas and you gave me a million dollars, you dumb fuck. I don't care if you never release it, I'm not cutting one second." Awesome.
Is that an actual quote from Billy Bob Thorton? Thats fucking awesome.
Down Rodeo
03-28-2008, 10:47 PM
I just saw Bonnie & Clyde today. It kind of reminded me of Breathless, but better. Gene Wilder was awesome in his debut. And Gene Hackman was awesome as always.
bballarl
03-29-2008, 01:13 PM
I just bought Stand By Me on DVD. I remember seeing this movie as a kid on TV and loving it. I had no idea what it was called and had been trying to figure it out for a long time when a co-worker finally solved the mystery for me.
Next up on the Need-to-buy-on-DVD-because-it-was-awesome-on-TV-as-a-child movie = Masterminds. Same situation, a friend solved that mystery for me a couple of weeks ago.
Kurosawa
03-29-2008, 08:41 PM
I finally finished watching Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy last night, and I was amazed. I think Red is more intellectually rich, but Blue, so heavily stylized, is probably my favorite after first viewing. What a work of art those movies are.
Good, now watch the Dekalog!
TomAz
03-29-2008, 10:59 PM
I just bought Stand By Me on DVD. I remember seeing this movie as a kid on TV and loving it. I had no idea what it was called and had been trying to figure it out for a long time when a co-worker finally solved the mystery for me.
Next up on the Need-to-buy-on-DVD-because-it-was-awesome-on-TV-as-a-child movie = Masterminds. Same situation, a friend solved that mystery for me a couple of weeks ago.
mine was The Wilby Conspiracy. back in the mid 70s cable was new and HBO didn't exist my neighbors had this channel where they would play movies, except they would play the same movie over and over all day. one day I was watching and they played The Wilby Conspiracy with Sidney Poitier and Michael Caine and I watched it like 3 times in a row. I have not seen it as an adult, I'm almost afraid to, that it will seem stupid and contrived and not magical like it was when I was 13.
PotVsKtl
03-30-2008, 11:14 AM
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Down Rodeo
03-30-2008, 12:01 PM
Good, now watch the Dekalog!
Yeah, I'm looking to buy that really soon.
Kurosawa
03-31-2008, 06:56 PM
Finished a Werner Herzog double feature recently:
Aguirre: The Wrath of God (1972)
Absolutely incredible. Lush photography combined with an oppressive soundtrack and Klaus Kinski's maniacal acting certainly makes for one of the best movies of all time. Anytime Kinski was facing the camera I was completely mesmerized by him and couldn't look away from his eyes, nobody does "Crazy" like him. Herzog is called Germany's Stanley Kubrick and for good reason. Any fans of Kubrick should definitely see this.
Fitzcarraldo (1982)
More Kinski/Herzog madness in the Peruvian jungle, this time with Kinski playing a fanatical opera fan at the turn of the century (1900) intent on bringing opera to the jungle. The story is the best of the "Man trying to achieve the impossible" theme, but it's also a metaphor for Herzog trying to make this (impossible) movie. Claudia Cardinale (Once Upon a Time in the West) absolutely shines as Kinski's wife and, while not as mesmerizing as "Aguirre", the jungle and the Amazon play more of a role here. The photography is, again, incredible.
I highly recommend both to fans of cinema. Any Herzog fans here?
Down Rodeo
04-01-2008, 12:38 AM
YES, Herzog is incredible. Aguirre: The Wrath of God is one of my favorite movies of all time, and Fitzcarraldo was almost as excellent. If you want to see an awe-inspiring portrayal of madness, check out Aguirre.
Also, Herzog's remake of Nosferatu with Kinski was absolutely chilling.
PotVsKtl
04-01-2008, 01:09 PM
Aguirre is a reason to go on living.
I watched [REC] last night. It's a Spanish (Portuguese?) pseudo-zombie movie that got picked up for a US remake before it had even been released. As a result you can't see it over here, unless you're interweb thieving savvy. Fucking terrifying. The last 20 minutes are ridiculous. The remake will be called Quarantine here, but don't bother with that bullshit.
PotVsKtl
04-01-2008, 01:24 PM
P.S. It's Blair Witch style so if you've got a little bitch stomach stay home and suck a lozenge.
Young blood
04-01-2008, 01:25 PM
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I found the youtube trailer for it. I will be checking it out.
Diary of the dead?
amyzzz
04-01-2008, 01:26 PM
Aguirre is a reason to go on living.
I watched [REC] last night. It's a Spanish (Portuguese?) pseudo-zombie movie that got picked up for a US remake before it had even been released. As a result you can't see it over here, unless you're interweb thieving savvy. Fucking terrifying. The last 20 minutes are ridiculous. The remake will be called Quarantine here, but don't bother with that bullshit.
OMG I love zombie movies. I'll pester Jacob to find it.
PotVsKtl
04-01-2008, 01:26 PM
Diary of the dead?
Heard it was terrible.
Mr.Nipples
04-01-2008, 01:43 PM
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Kurosawa
04-02-2008, 04:16 AM
Tonight I watched [Rec] (2007, Spanish w/ English subtitles) but it could also be called "Plot Holes: The Movie".
The pros are that it's very scary and intense, particularly the last act. It's a relatively short film at just over 70 minutes. The lead actress Manuela Velasco is beautiful and the overall acting is pretty decent.
Plot holes abound here and the third act is guilty of quite a few contradictions. It seems as though the story gets very jumbled in the end -- a brief attempt is made to explain the infection but is soon after dropped. Perhaps when more people have seen the film we can discuss the plot holes, but I don't want to spoil any of the key moments for amyzzz or any others.
Zombie fans should enjoy this fresh air breathed into the over-saturated and sagging genre, I'll be giving it a rewatch for sure.
Rating: 76/100
roberto73
04-02-2008, 08:47 AM
Heard it was terrible.
Here's a review of it I posted elsewhere. You're generally correct.
While George Romero’s Diary of the Dead is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a great movie, it’s compulsively watchable, and I love it that the 67-year-old writer/director is able to run rings around many of his younger counterparts. Even so, I walked out of Diary with mixed feelings. I appreciate the fact that Romero uses his zombies as a backdrop upon which to explore whatever current issue is keeping him awake at night, but this time around it seemed more heavy-handed than usual. Where Night of the Living Dead was an allegory for race relations and Dawn of the Dead explored issues of consumerism and Day of the Dead dealt with the military and Land of the Dead tackled immigration and xenophobia, Diary of the Dead sets its metaphorical sights on the media. In the past, I’ve found the message to be buried nicely in the action; it was a zombie movie first, and the message, while not incidental, was at least ancillary to the scares and the gore. This time around, while the gore was plentiful (remember: in a zombie attack, keep hydrochloric acid or defibrillator paddles close by), the message was hammered home with all the delicacy of a crowbar to the forehead (which doesn’t kill zombies, by the way). Romero’s thesis is that technology and the media (and techno-media) is bad. People live their lives vicariously through the Internet, and let themselves be lulled into complacency by the television, and never question the information they get on the news. As a result, they become isolated from each other and the world in which they live. This is not a new message, nor do I disagree with it. In fact, I once again have to give Romero credit for attempting to use a trashy genre flick to convey Big Ideas. But this is the first time with Romero where I felt this was a message movie first and zombie movie second. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If some mouth-breather walks into Diary of the Dead hoping to see blood and brains, and walks out realizing how he’s being duped by the popular media, I can’t complain. But I’ve already bought the goods Romero was trying to sell me. In fact, I’ve bought them and tried to sell them again to others. So while I could enjoy the 40% of the movie that involved the undead being speared with arrows, the 60% that tried to convince me to turn off the TV sort of fell on deaf ears.
Kurosawa
04-02-2008, 05:02 PM
One giant paragraph
So, essentially Romero has morphed into 90's David Cronenberg? Cool!
Stefinitely Maybe
04-03-2008, 02:34 AM
Last night my girlfriend and I went to see the Spanish film "El Orfanato", ("The Orphanage"). I can't remember whether or not this film has been discussed here before, but for some reason I don't think it has.
I am not really a fan of scary movies. I think the whole "oh look a monster chasing someone through the darkness" schtick is really overplayed and silly, but I LOVED LOVED LOVED LOVED LOVED this film. I would give it 10 out of 10. It was undoubtedly one of my favourite fantasy / horror films of all time. Beautifully shot, atmospheric, suspenseful, intelligent, and with a great twist. It also made me jump out my seat several times, which almost never happens.
Also, to describe this as a horror would be a huge mistake. It's more of a fantasy / mystery / thriller. If you go expecting something like Nightmare On Elm Street, you will be sorely disappointed. It has great characters, and is a very compassionate movie too.
I kind of don't want to say too much about it, because I don't want to risk ruining it for anyone. I'll just say that you HAVE TO SEE THIS FILM.
It's produced by Del Toro, the guy who did Pan's Labyrinth, and at times the movie has a similar fantastic feel to it, but I'd say it's generally more like an M Night Shyamalan movie mixed with The Shining.
Seriously, I cannot say enough good things about this movie. Go see it.
amyzzz
04-03-2008, 04:12 AM
It's a ghost story, Stef. I thought it was pretty good. And we have discussed it, just sparingly.
Stefinitely Maybe
04-03-2008, 04:19 AM
It was more than just a ghost story, though. It was beautiful!
thinnerair
04-03-2008, 03:17 PM
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies2009/gijoe2.jpg
Hey. Its Snake Eyes!
traviscanada
04-03-2008, 03:24 PM
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies2009/gijoe2.jpg
Hey. Its Snake Eyes!
At first I thought there was a deadpool movie coming out or something.
mountmccabe
04-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Last night I saw Shine a Light at the IMAX. The Rolling Stones asked Scorsese if he wanted to film one of their shows and he did. The lead-in is pretty awesome, it is kind of a making of documentary for the movie itself. You get Scorsese worrying about getting the setlist and Jagger not understanding the stage set-up and, basically, the build-up to a Stones concert.
Then you get the Stones concert. It is a Rolling Stones concert, basically. A couple times it cuts away to snippets of archival footage for brief amusements but then it goes back to 60 year olds prancing around on stage.
The setlist is OK without being quite what I would've wanted (you can see it at wikipedia, etc.) The guests - Jack White, Buddy Guy and Christina Aguilera - are all pretty cool to watch.
So, yeah, other than the opening fifteen minutes this is very nearly just straight concert film. Which is fine if you want to see a Rolling Stones concert. They're old and Mick can't quite sing like he used to and Keith and Ronnie were never all that great at guitar and they don't do a whole lot with the songs other than play them but Mick is, as always, all over the place and the others mostly seem to be having a great time/confused.
canexplain
04-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Last night I saw Shine a Light at the IMAX. The Rolling Stones asked Scorsese if he wanted to film one of their shows and he did. The lead-in is pretty awesome, it is kind of a making of documentary for the movie itself. You get Scorsese worrying about getting the setlist and Jagger not understanding the stage set-up and, basically, the build-up to a Stones concert.
Then you get the Stones concert. It is a Rolling Stones concert, basically. A couple times it cuts away to snippets of archival footage for brief amusements but then it goes back to 60 year olds prancing around on stage.
The setlist is OK without being quite what I would've wanted (you can see it at wikipedia, etc.) The guests - Jack White, Buddy Guy and Christina Aguilera - are all pretty cool to watch.
So, yeah, other than the opening fifteen minutes this is very nearly just straight concert film. Which is fine if you want to see a Rolling Stones concert. They're old and Mick can't quite sing like he used to and Keith and Ronnie were never all that great at guitar and they don't do a whole lot with the songs other than play them but Mick is, as always, all over the place and the others mostly seem to be having a great time/confused.
i read a review just today that said close to word for word what you reviewed ... cool ... they did say during the concert, it used to be hot young girls and now it is rolex's , style and clothes, and all the things i know i dont care for in people that were in the front row, but thats just me ... right on dude .. x****
Kurosawa
04-03-2008, 07:20 PM
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies2009/gijoe2.jpg
Hey. Its Snake Eyes!
No word whether or not they'll give him a wolf (Timber) yet. I'm excited so far about this project -- can't wait for pics of Storm Shadow and Zartan.
Another pic of Snake Eyes I saw had him holding a beretta -- not the Uzi he should have. Hope they correct that and make that muscle suit look less... plastic.
ragingdave
04-03-2008, 07:25 PM
Olivia Newton John was way fucking hot in that leather/spandexy getup in Grease.
ghettojournalist
04-04-2008, 12:05 AM
At first I thought there was a deadpool movie coming out or something.
Deadpool will make an appearance in the new Wolverine film. Ryan Reynolds plays the merc with a mouth.
Stefinitely Maybe
04-04-2008, 02:58 AM
Jennifer Lynch and David Lynch present "Surveillance":
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Stefinitely Maybe
04-04-2008, 02:58 AM
Also, I FINALLY watched "Once" last night. What a lovely film. I'm excited to see The Swell Season at Coachella now.
Kurosawa
04-04-2008, 05:23 AM
It was more than just a ghost story, though. It was beautiful!
Just watched El Orfanato tonight, it was great! You might also enjoy Peter Medak's "The Changeling" (1980). Similar vibe but replace the great visuals with great sound -- the sound editing in The Changeling is top notch.
Also that Jen Lynch film looks decent!
thestripe
04-04-2008, 06:09 AM
Also, I FINALLY watched "Once" last night. What a lovely film. I'm excited to see The Swell Season at Coachella now.
I watched it about a week ago, and really enjoyed it. I'll probably be catching their set as well.
sbessiso
04-04-2008, 08:45 PM
just saw "leatherheads", it had a lot of good stuff in it, but a lot of it didn't work, theres an entire subplot that makes the movie FAR too long, but every scene with george clooney and renee zellwegger was fantastic, their chemistry was visible from space, and the script sharp and witty
still, one of those movies where I can take a nap in the middle (and did!), wake up, and still be caught up
wmgaretjax
04-04-2008, 11:24 PM
So Nick Cave is doing the soundtrack for the adaptation of "The Road" and it's directed by the guy that did "The Proposition."
That's two good signs for a film adapted from a book I didn't care for. My interest is piqued.
wmgaretjax
04-06-2008, 09:35 PM
I saw "Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait" last night. For those of you that don't know 99% of the film was captured by 17 HD and 35mm cameras with insane zoom lenses over the course of a single soccer game. The focus is entirely on Zidane, rather than the ball or the game. On top of that there is insane sound design and a gorgeous score by Mogwai.
All in all it's a really interesting and worthwhile film. Zidane is such a stoic guy and he seems so disinterested in the game that it proves a really conflicted interesting experience. It's both hypnotic and completely engaging at the same time. If it swings through LA (again?) check it out for sure.
SojuGorae
04-06-2008, 09:46 PM
I saw "Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait" last night. For those of you that don't know 99% of the film was captured by 17 HD and 35mm cameras with insane zoom lenses over the course of a single soccer game. The focus is entirely on Zidane, rather than the ball or the game. On top of that there is insane sound design and a gorgeous score by Mogwai.
All in all it's a really interesting and worthwhile film. Zidane is such a stoic guy and he seems so disinterested in the game that it proves a really conflicted interesting experience. It's both hypnotic and completely engaging at the same time. If it swings through LA (again?) check it out for sure.
I have to watch this.
tessalasset
04-06-2008, 10:58 PM
I just was talked into seeing 21 tonight and it was absolutely horrible. Avoid this movie at all costs. My friend Alex kept saying "It's like Oceans 11! You like Oceans 11, right?" It is not like Oceans 11. It is cheap as fuck where you feel sorry for the actors having to deliver such cheesy, predictable dialogue, none of the actors seem into it, the story makes you want to laugh, and Lawrence Fishburne has sunk to a new low. "You think you can beat the system?!" ::shows them his fist:: "THIS is the system." It was the worst movie I've seen in such a long time.
tessalasset
04-06-2008, 11:09 PM
The only redeeming factor to me was the lead actor looked a crazy lot like my friend Jack.
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thelastgreatman
04-06-2008, 11:34 PM
That's a shame. The book was mildly interesting. My sister knows some of the students who actually did that 'cause she went to MIT's sister school.
Mr.Nipples
04-06-2008, 11:42 PM
My sister knows some of the students who actually did that 'cause she went to MIT's sister school.
TIT?
thelastgreatman
04-06-2008, 11:44 PM
That's funny. Wellesley. But yeah, ought to be TIT--all girl, highly pseudo-intellectual dykey.
tessalasset
04-07-2008, 12:36 AM
Yeah Alex had read the book and he kept saying it was so much better. Also it bugged me that they changed the main character from an Asian dude to a cute white boy. Like...typical.
schoolofruckus
04-07-2008, 06:57 AM
So Nick Cave is doing the soundtrack for the adaptation of "The Road" and it's directed by the guy that did "The Proposition."
That's two good signs for a film adapted from a book I didn't care for. My int