Schoolio's Movie Corner

[KungFuJoe]

Meryl Streep = blonde = consistently good actress

[thelastgreatman]

Couldn't stand to watch 21 Grams past the first half hour. Remembering bits of Mulholland Drive... okay, might have a decent point there although that movie is irritating as shit, like all Lynch. Didn't even realize that's her in Huckabees but... hmm... come to think of it she wasn't bothersome.

Alright, I retract my position. Naomi Watts is forgettable but not objectionable at all. =)

[thelastgreatman]

Meryl hasn't been blonde for 30 years, dye job.

[chairmenmeow47]

in one of my mom's US magazines, i saw that meryl streep is playing julia childes. i can't wait to see that.

[thelastgreatman]

It could be really interesting if they decided to turn Julia into a cokehead sex addict. But only when she's really, really old.

[downingthief]

Meryl hasn't been blonde for 30 years, dye job.

Kidman is actually a red head. She went blonde sometime in the 90's, I believe.

[amyzzz]

my 16 year old has seen it twice and thinks it's awesome.
My kids say they liked it too (they kind of like everything though). I almost felt myself nodding off during that movie it was so dull. Why is it TWO AND A HALF HOURS LONG AND ONLY PG RATED? wtf? That's way too long for only PG. I liked the first one (lion, witch, wardrobe) okay. Maybe I'm just too old for that crap. Or maybe it was that the villain (villains?) was lacking. The villain should always be Tilda Swinton--end of story.

[KungFuJoe]

All this talk of Nicole Kidman has made me nostalgic.

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[downingthief]

Nice find!

First movie I recall her in was Dead Calm.

[garrett222]

Everyone like The Darjeeling Limited? I did.

[garrett222]

Natalie Portman = holy hecka hot. Dating Devendra Bernhart. What's up with this?

[schoolofruckus]

I liked The Darjeeling Limited. I need to watch it again.

[thelastgreatman]

Darjeeling good. Nice recovery, Wes might just have a shot at pulling off some more really great scripts without Owen. Comforting after he went towards superficial with Zissou, though it was quite funny.

[mountmccabe]

My brother picked up Sunshine and let me borrow it so I watched it tonight for the first time since the theater. This is a fucking movie. It has flaws but damn does it blow through them. It doesn't matter that it is full of bits ripped from other such movies, that's not the point. This is pure visual storytelling. It's visually stunning and full of rich imagery. And the music is cool without being overbearing. I love this movie.

[mountmccabe]

Boyle/Garland/Macdonald should work together more.

[chairmenmeow47]

My brother picked up Sunshine and let me borrow it so I watched it tonight for the first time since the theater. This is a fucking movie. It has flaws but damn does it blow through them. It doesn't matter that it is full of bits ripped from other such movies, that's not the point. This is pure visual storytelling. It's visually stunning and full of rich imagery. And the music is cool without being overbearing. I love this movie.

my roommates were watching recently and i got sucked in too. very awesome indeed! i love cillian murphy too :)

[wmgaretjax]

I liked The Darjeeling Limited. I need to watch it again.

I was lukewarm in the first half but loved the second half... I need to watch it again.

[TomAz]

So I watched I'm Not There for the 2nd time (DVD showed up in the mail this past weekend) and it's funny how my perspective changed on it in a 2nd viewing. The first time I saw it I thought Blanchett was marvelous and Gere dull. Now I found Blanchett a little annoying, almost like she was overacting, and Gere's piece much more interesting.

The other revelation I had is none too flattering to the movie. At some point it struck me that there was a certain Sgt Pepper quality to it. I mean Sgt Pepper the movie, not the album. It's like they said, "hey, let's make a Sgt Pepper type movie but use Dylan's music, but we'll chop it up so it isn't strictly linear and we'll use different actors to play the 'same character' so it isn't so obvious and is artier". I think this thought occured to me when Richard Gere was walking through Riddle and tips his hat and says "Morning, Mrs Henry". and I thought 'jeez, they had to name her Mrs Henry? so that we know that the film is now referring to the Basement Tapes period? that's almost as hamfisted as something from Sgt Pepper the movie.'

I know that seems harsh, and probably unfair cuz I do still like the movie. It's otherwise interesting enough to get past the clumsy parts.

[schoolofruckus]

You really think the decision to have Dylan portrayed as and by a series of different people was a conceit to make it "arty", rather than a metaphor for his unwillingness to clearly present or define himself to the rest of the world?

[PotVsKtl]

You really think the decision to have Dylan portrayed as and by a series of different people was a conceit to make it "arty"

Well..

rather than a metaphor for his unwillingness to clearly present or define himself to the rest of the world?

Uh..

[TomAz]

I think it's some of both, yeah.

[amyzzz]

Sunshine was visually stunning, but the end sucked. And Cillian with long hair kinda sucks too.

[chairmenmeow47]

Sunshine was visually stunning, but the end sucked. And Cillian with long hair kinda sucks too.

yeah, the long hair was kinda lame. i prefer scarecrow cillian:

http://ivy.aholic.us/gallery/d/582961-2/cillian_murphy.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=054080b5a75377afc 72b1125e14fc11d

he could put that bag over my head and do whatever he likes :)

[bug on your lip]

i enjoyed "I'm Not There"

when he 1st came out as a black kid calling himself Woody i was effin estatic.. i was all "yahhhhhhhh, now that's how u make a fukkin flick!!"


although i did not get the Heath Ledger part at all... maybe i don't know enough about Bob or sumthin... the Ledger/Charlotte Gainsbourg scenes bored me & made me uncomfortable

[TomAz]

yeah the Ledger stuff all related to his marriage & then divorce to Sara Lowndes I think.

[mountmccabe]

The parts with Heath as the Dylan-related character were the best because they focused on Charlotte's character; that section was a good counterpoint.

[mountmccabe]

And I actually liked the Cate Blanchette parts the least because they were much more direct at being Dylan-esque, nearly to the point of being straight Dylan.

[thestripe]

I'm still confused by the "Billy the Kid" (Gere) part.

[iv3rdawG]

Just watched the Burn After Reading trailer, the new film by The Coen Bros., looks really fun. Also the new movie from Kevin Smith, Zack and Miri Make a Porno, will have its trailer released tonight.

[Backwater]

After Zach and Miri he's doing his first horror film. In fact, they probably already started shooting. I'm very curious to see how this turns out.

[chairmenmeow47]

pot's new avatar scares me

[ghettojournalist]

the Zack and Miri is a teaser, so don't expect too much. i know i'll be watching though.

[algunz]

I'm watching Dan in Real Life right now, and sometimes I am simply astounded by the shite that Hollywood puts out. Every single fucking character is absolutely annoying - and it's sad because I really like Binoche. I torture myself only because of it's setting. Rohde Island is where my mom grew up and it's beautifully familiar, but I'm not sure it's worth it.

[ghettojournalist]

i really dig Dan in Real Life. i like Carrell and Binoche and, compared to other rom-coms, this is miles above the standard fare.

[algunz]

Really? The dialogue and the situations are completely exasperating.

[algunz]

So far the only scene that I have enjoyed was when he throws the giant rock in the water while the boys are skipping pebbles.

OMG, Dane Cook is singing!! Are they serious?

Binoche is the only character that kind of works, and it's mainly because she is clearly annoyed that she is in this movie.

[ghettojournalist]

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[schoolofruckus]

I thought Binoche was far and away the worst part of Dan in Real Life. More her character than her performance, though.

"What would be your ideal day?"

"I would go to a new country and learn about a new culture." Just like that.

*blows brains out of skull*

[algunz]

I'm not saying that her character was good. She's annoying as fuck, but it remotely works because Juliette is probably playing off the emotion that she must be feeling while making this crap.

Oh shit, I just turned it off and Wallstreet is on VH1. I haven't seen this movie in forever. I can't do this. I have to go to sleep.

[paulb]

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that looks like it could be hilarious

[Stefinitely Maybe]

Download your Paul Rudd / Judd Apatow screensaver here. (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/db756b5538)

[wmgaretjax]

"Burn After Reading" the new Coen brothers flick looks sweet. It's on the Apple Quicktime site.

[schoolofruckus]

I'm not saying that her character was good. She's annoying as fuck, but it remotely works because Juliette is probably playing off the emotion that she must be feeling while making this crap.

Oh shit, I just turned it off and Wallstreet is on VH1. I haven't seen this movie in forever. I can't do this. I have to go to sleep.

If that was what you took from it, I can't argue that. That same feeling of "this actor is annoyed with how dogshit this movie is to the point that it's entertaining" was the reason why I enjoyed The Day After Tomorrow.

[schoolofruckus]

"Burn After Reading" the new Coen brothers flick looks sweet. It's on the Apple Quicktime site.

Yeah. (http://movies.apple.com/movies/focus_features/burn_after_reading/burn_after_reading-red-tlr_h720p.mov)

[Tylerdurden31]

My brother picked up Sunshine and let me borrow it so I watched it tonight for the first time since the theater. This is a fucking movie. It has flaws but damn does it blow through them. It doesn't matter that it is full of bits ripped from other such movies, that's not the point. This is pure visual storytelling. It's visually stunning and full of rich imagery. And the music is cool without being overbearing. I love this movie.

I watched it twice in the same day. I wasn't totally paying attention the first time. Visually amazing. Definitely some holes. Soundtrack was outstanding.

[Mr. Dylanja]

Speaking of the above mentioned visually pleasing flicks, anyone plan on see The Fall? All I know is its the same director as The Cell (I'm talking visuals here people). Anyways I was thinking about eating some ThomThom (aka Mr. Fun Guy) and checking it out. Its only playing at 1 theatre in The Nix.

[schoolofruckus]

Jared said it was a mixed bag. I plan to catch it this weekend. My brother told me it was amazing.

[Young blood]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/gonzo/trailer/

yes please.

[kitt kat]

bringing it back to "i'm not there", the only part I really liked were the Blanchett scenes. They looked amazing, she was acting brilliantly, and the ambiance was dead on.

Watched 2 Days in Paris the other night.

WHAT I LIKED:

Shit son. This movie proves that women CAN FUCKING DIRECT A MOVIE. Beautiful performances from the male lead, the characters of the girl's parents, and (at times) the lead/director herself. Shot nicely, well-paced---I was never visually bored or felt like the story dragged. The script itself was a lovely snapshot of "comfortable love" and anyone in a nice relationship can relate. But this isn't a chick flick. Oh god no. This is like the anti-chick flick, and I think guys would like it more than girls.

WHAT I HATED:
I hate writer/director/actors. Delpy should stict to directing. Her script had an annoying introductory voice over that was way too girltastic for my taste and overly expositional. Plus, her character (the one she played) was written too conciously. Like, I seriously think the woman sat down and said, "Ok. I want to play someone quirky, smart, headstrong, but a little weak. Oh, she has to be indietastic. Ok...She's a photographer! And she loves Polaroids! And she's a bit neurotic. That's indie enough, isn't it? Oh, and to top it off, I'm going to make her exactly like ME, but not me. Oh but she has to be nearly blind, like I am, or else I can't play her." THEN DON'T FUCKING PLAY HER! GEEZ. FAIL.

All in all, though, it's worth checking out, mainly to prove that Hollywood's constant BS about a lack of talented women in the industry can be put to shame.

I give it 4/5 stars.

[RotationSlimWang]

I don't she how she was possibly a good director if you think the material and the acting as well were so bad. Perhaps you don't know what directing is.

[schoolofruckus]

bringing it back to "i'm not there", the only part I really liked were the Blanchett scenes. They looked amazing, she was acting brilliantly, and the ambiance was dead on.

Watched 2 Days in Paris the other night.

WHAT I LIKED:

Shit son. This movie proves that women CAN FUCKING DIRECT A MOVIE. Beautiful performances from the male lead, the characters of the girl's parents, and (at times) the lead/director herself. Shot nicely, well-paced---I was never visually bored or felt like the story dragged. The script itself was a lovely snapshot of "comfortable love" and anyone in a nice relationship can relate. But this isn't a chick flick. Oh god no. This is like the anti-chick flick, and I think guys would like it more than girls.

WHAT I HATED:
I hate writer/director/actors. Delpy should stict to directing. Her script had an annoying introductory voice over that was way too girltastic for my taste and overly expositional. Plus, her character (the one she played) was written too conciously. Like, I seriously think the woman sat down and said, "Ok. I want to play someone quirky, smart, headstrong, but a little weak. Oh, she has to be indietastic. Ok...She's a photographer! And she loves Polaroids! And she's a bit neurotic. That's indie enough, isn't it? Oh, and to top it off, I'm going to make her exactly like ME, but not me. Oh but she has to be nearly blind, like I am, or else I can't play her." THEN DON'T FUCKING PLAY HER! GEEZ. FAIL.

All in all, though, it's worth checking out, mainly to prove that Hollywood's constant BS about a lack of talented women in the industry can be put to shame.

I give it 4/5 stars.

I'm pretty sure the constant BS about a lack of talented women in the industry is a myth perpetuated by you and Randy.

And you hate John Cassavetes? Woody Allen? Orson Welles?

Other than that, I guess my only question is this: in order to convey how "indietastic" our lead shutterfly is, do they have her take polaroids of herself making wacky poses next to dinosaur statues, grocery store jeep rides, and C-list celebrities?

[RotationSlimWang]

Seriously. What's hilarious about cuntface is that she'll apparently prattle on and on criticizing other women for basically her exact character traits, and then claim that it's the world that says they're not supposed to be talented.

Hey, Kat--it's not the world saying it, it's just everyone that knows you, and they're not saying all women are untalented, just you, and it's you who's neurotic and "girltastic," which is to say a pain in the fucking ass.

[KungFuJoe]

I'm with Gabe. it's a myth. Whether you like their films or not, you can't deny that Julie Taymor, Sofia Coppala & Kathryn Bigelow (to name a few) are talented directors. I'm particularly fond of Bigelow & am highly anticipating her new film The Hurt Locker. can't say I love the short she recently did for Pirelli, but, um, it's fun? (ridiculous) ...

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Strange Days on the other hand is one of my favorite films, Near Dark possibly my favorite vampire flick, and Point Break is a great guilty pleasure.

[RotationSlimWang]

God rereading that made me want to put a foot in her cuntastic.

[Neutral Milk Hotel]

Jared said it was a mixed bag. I plan to catch it this weekend. My brother told me it was amazing.

I loved The Fall. I haven't really been able to write a review as it's a hard film to articulate my feelings on, but at the very least I can say it's absolutely one of the most visually astounding films I've ever seen. Especially when you consider that Tarsem claims he used no CGI whatsoever.

PS: Anyone who claims women can't make good films must come to know Lina Wertmuller.

[Jenniehoo]

Gabe's watching a Spanish movie called Japan and so far this is what happened:

The camera drove down many roads like it was a car.
A small, troll-like boy shot a bird and then played with it when it was still alive.
Several men killed a pig and then looked at all the dead pig parts for about 10 full minutes.
A gimpy man with a cane followed a maid up a mountain.

I realize this is all fascinating. I'll continue to keep you posted.

[Jenniehoo]

An old, Spanish man with a gargantuan nose stares at things like fields, expanses of sky, and children.

The children walk by and say good morning to him and some of them are smoking cigarettes.

[Jenniehoo]

Gratuitous male masturbatorial nudity.

[SoulDischarge]

Are you sure this isn't just a Pasolini movie?

I just paid way too fucking much to see The Fall at the Arclight. If yr going to bother seeing it at all, see it in the theater, because the visuals are the best thing going for it and should be seen on a huge screen. Too bad everything else about it wasn't better.

[wmgaretjax]

Gabe's watching a Spanish movie called Japan

Moved to the top of my netflix queue.

Seeing "You, The Living" tomorrow night, excited.

[Jenniehoo]

That sucks about The Fall. I'm looking forward to seeing it - the previews make it look visually stunning.

Me: Is this a Pasolini movie?
Gabe: Who's asking?
Me: I'm asking.
Gabe: No.
Me: Who is it then?
Gabe: (Sigh. Pause the movie) The director?
Me: Yes.
Gabe: Carlos Reygadas. It's a Carlos Reygadas movie.

[CuervoPH]

I just watched The Orphanage. Spanish film. I really enjoyed it. Thank you to whomever on this board recommended it. Very hard to find a movie that makes me jump, and this one did.

No gratuitous male masturbatorial nudity that I noticed, however.

[stinkbutt]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/gonzo/trailer/

yes please.

Jimmy Buffett?

[wmgaretjax]

That sucks about The Fall. I'm looking forward to seeing it - the previews make it look visually stunning.

Me: Is this a Pasolini movie?
Gabe: Who's asking?
Me: I'm asking.
Gabe: No.
Me: Who is it then?
Gabe: (Sigh. Pause the movie) The director?
Me: Yes.
Gabe: Carlos Reygadas. It's a Carlos Reygadas movie.

I think I would get along with Gabe quite well. I don't know how many times I've acted this same dialogue out with my girlfriend. I sigh pretty heavily now these days.

[schoolofruckus]

Yeah, wow. Japon was awesome. Jennie basically told the film's story in the way the film tells itself, but here's the easy version: a tortured man hikes to a remote Mexican village and stays with an old maid as he prepares to kill himself. A fucking brilliant visual film - albeit one with not a lot of white balancing - with some of the best sound design I've seen in a long time. The actors (although I doubt any of them actually are actors) were impeccably chosen - some very memorable, expressive faces that made exposition irrelevant. Although I sighed very loudly, I am glad Jennie dragged the director's name out of me; this Carlos Reygadas is definitely a dude who needs to be paid attention to.

An added bonus, as Jennie alluded to, is that I now will not be able to die without having witnessed a sex seen featuring two people whose combined age is around 150.

[dorkfish]

An added bonus, as Jennie alluded to, is that I now will not be able to die without having witnessed a sex scene featuring two people whose combined age is around 150.
Didn't see As Good As It Gets?

[dorkfish]

I'm watching Hellboy for the first time ever, right now. So far, it rules. Looks dated, though.

We watched Vantage Point last night. Suuuuuuuuuuucked.

[KungFuJoe]

Further proof that there are talented female film makers in this world. I've been waiting for The Last Mistress to get a proper release ever since I missed it at the AFI fest & heard how amazing Asia Argento is.

http://www.ifcfilms.com/viewFilm.htm?filmId=616

there's also a red band trailer out there that shows Asia's boobies. I'll let you perves seek that out for yourself.

[whynotsmile99]

Yeah, wow. Japon was awesome. Jennie basically told the film's story in the way the film tells itself, but here's the easy version: a tortured man hikes to a remote Mexican village and stays with an old maid as he prepares to kill himself. A fucking brilliant visual film - albeit one with not a lot of white balancing - with some of the best sound design I've seen in a long time. The actors (although I doubt any of them actually are actors) were impeccably chosen - some very memorable, expressive faces that made exposition irrelevant. Although I sighed very loudly, I am glad Jennie dragged the director's name out of me; this Carlos Reygadas is definitely a dude who needs to be paid attention to.

An added bonus, as Jennie alluded to, is that I now will not be able to die without having witnessed a sex seen featuring two people whose combined age is around 150.

sounds great. i just booted it to the top of my netflix list.

I just watched Juno and enjoyed it a lot. Low expectations but it was a nice, sweet movie. Nothing laugh out loud funny, but well made and enjoyable. The cast was very good as well. Coby's screenplay wasn't that bad at all. My 16 year old self would have gotten about 90% of the references so its not that out of character for someone like Juno. I was expecting it to be a lot more random pop culture gags from some scatching reviews I read.

Jennifer Garner and the girl who plays Juno were very good in their roles.

I couldn't look at the dad as a nice little air condition repair man though. I kept thinking he was going to shank somebody

http://www.iansmith.co.uk/image/blog/March2007/OzOne_4.jpg

[Backwater]

The dialogue in Juno was so hipster and pretentious that it really pissed me off.

"That's one doddle that can't be undid, home skillet."

Now come on, seriously, who in the hell talks like that? Noone. Homeslice maybe, but homeskillet?! No, just no.

My favorite line of the movie - "Have you ever heard of Sonic Youth?"
"Um, yeah I mean I think I've heard the name once before."

[Xenocide]

Juno was the most overrated film of last year...

but the line where she says something like, "I just bought a Sonic Youth album yesterday, and you know what? it sucked, all it was was a bunch of noise!" was pretty funny...

[wmgaretjax]

Further proof that there are talented female film makers in this world. I've been waiting for The Last Mistress to get a proper release ever since I missed it at the AFI fest & heard how amazing Asia Argento is.


This film is great. I saw it last week at SIFF.

[TomAz]

The dialogue in Juno was so hipster and pretentious that it really pissed me off.

"That's one doddle that can't be undid, home skillet."

Now come on, seriously, who in the hell talks like that? Noone. Homeslice maybe, but homeskillet?! No, just no.

My favorite line of the movie - "Have you ever heard of Sonic Youth?"
"Um, yeah I mean I think I've heard the name once before."

Juno was the most overrated film of last year...

but the line where she says something like, "I just bought a Sonic Youth album yesterday, and you know what? it sucked, all it was was a bunch of noise!" was pretty funny...


aha. this explains something. after seeing the movie, my 16 year old daughter said that the dad in the film reminded her of me. I asked why (I've not seen the movie) and she said "he likes Sonic Youth and stuff".

[downingthief]

I just watched The Orphanage. Spanish film. I really enjoyed it. Thank you to whomever on this board recommended it. Very hard to find a movie that makes me jump, and this one did.

No gratuitous male masturbatorial nudity that I noticed, however.

Saw the Orphanage over the weekend, as well. Del Toro is one of the true masters of the modern horror/terror/suspense films. Very unique visions.
I wouldn't say it was scary...more on the creepy side.

[schoolofruckus]

Just to be clear, Guillermo del Toro didn't direct The Orphanage; Juan Antonio Bayonas did. Del Toro was just an executive producer.

[downingthief]

Ahh, that's right. My bad. Sure had the feel of a Del Toro flick.

I took the Wife to see Sex and the City last night. She's a huge fan, and had been chomping at the bit to see it. I was one of MAYBE 10 guys in the entire theater (around 100 total).

While I was not a fan, per se, of the show. I didn't hate it either. Just would get tedious after seeing episodes back to back to back. Movie was actually not that bad. But, it was like watching 5 episodes in a row. Nothing really new to the characters, etc. Basically, if you are a fan of the show...see it. You will love it. If you are not, don't bother. It will be torture for you.

[wmgaretjax]

I saw "You, The Living" last night, Roy Andersson's new film. While not nearly as good as "Songs from the Second Floor" there were some brilliant sections. Some were hilarious, many were royally fucked up. More than anything though, it seems a little too self-indulgent compared to his previous efforts, but I think he got a lot of that out of his system. I'm excited to see what he goes on to do.

[full on idle]

The Baxter - so, so cute. I love it. Michelle Williams is like the prototype of adorability in this movie.

Savages - Good movie, pretty predictable plotline but somewhat interesting characters. There were definitely some tearjerky moments (read: the part about the toes and the very last scene) but also some eye rolling moments (kissing the Nigerian).

I'm watching Lars and the Real Girl right now and laughing a LOT.

[garrett222]

Juno was great. so what if it is pretentious. It wasn't trying to feel like George Washington with the dialogue or anything. It was attempting to be funny, different, interesting, and heartfelt.

[wmgaretjax]

It was attempting to be funny, different, interesting, and heartfelt.

And yet it didn't really succeed at any of those things? A couple of laughs maybe, but it was certainly not different, interesting, or heartfelt.

[full on idle]

I thought it was great.

[PotVsKtl]

Lars and the Real Girl is fucking terrible. I hope your head falls off.

[wmgaretjax]

I thought it was great.

no.

nice avatar.

[full on idle]

Answer your effing email pvk.

[full on idle]

no.
I really think gender and age differences have a lot to do with different perceptions of whether or not it's great, I really do.

nice avatar.

I know right.

[downingthief]

I thought Juno was good, not great. Not worthy of best picture nod, but I enjoyed it.

[wmgaretjax]

I know right.

check your PMs.

[Down Rodeo]

I recently watched Rashomon and The Virgin Spring. Rashomon was incredible, as expected. I basically learned that you can't trust shit that people say.

I remember some of you bashing the ending of The Virgin Spring a while back, but I thought it was one of the most profound and amazing expressions of Christian faith that I've ever seen in a movie. I'm actually shocked that Bergman made it after The Seventh Seal, because that movie was so bleak and doubtful of the existence of God. Amazing director.

[schoolofruckus]

Juno is the opposite of heartfelt. I would have a grudging respect for it if it had stuck to either the "annoyingly verbose comedy of quips" or the "heartstring-yanking story of family love conquering all" directions. But starting (and pissing me off) with the former approach, and then making a half-hearted, contrived beeline for the latter (and pissing me off again) makes it the most insufferable film of the past couple years.

I don't know who called it "pretentious". Nobody that I've seen has bagged on it for being pretentious - although, now that I think about it, it is that, too - and believe me, I've been watching.

[amyzzz]

I definitely thought it was hearfelt. I cried 3 times. The dialogue is rather ridiculous though.

My husband and I skipped work on the day after Valentine's Day and went to see it. It was the perect romantic movie to see.

[RotationSlimWang]

Juno's biggest flaw was that Juno herself had no flaws. Without weakness, there is no true empathy.

[anti-square]

I'm kinda glad I've avoided Juno now. I saw Sweeney Todd this weekend, and while it was predictable, the presentation was fan fucking tastic.

[RotationSlimWang]

No real reason to avoid Juno that much. Ellen Page is so goddamned adorable it's worth watching just to want to beat off to pregnant jailbait. how often does that happen?

[anti-square]

I just saw a picture of her. That forehead of hers is too intimidating to consider adorable. Her forehead reminds me of an ass. Basically a big surface of skin. I feel like spanking her forehead. Not in a sexual way though.

[RotationSlimWang]

That's an interesting theory. Is that why I date consistently crazier and crazier hobags, Foi?

[anti-square]

Not wearing rubbers is awesome too.

[chairmenmeow47]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HOW DOES TOMORROW IS FOREVER END?!?!

my dvr is a tease :mad:

[PotVsKtl]

Bond gets the criminal.

[Backwater]

Ellen Page is sorta cute but Juno's best friend in the film is hot as hell.

Has anyone seen a film that was released in 2000 called The Other Conquest?

It was the highest grossing Mexican film ever at the time of it's release (I guess Pan's L beat it.)

Anyway my professor directed it, just thought I'd brag about that. It's a really good film though. You should really see it, especially if you're Mexican. It's the most objective presentation of the Spanish Conquest you will ever see.

[KungFuJoe]

anyone else excited to see John Woo making films in China again? do you think he's finally going to bring us a quality picture again?

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also, I watched the Assembly last night, which is another Chinese war pic. I almost gave up on it during the first half because it was too much of a Saving Private Ryan wannabe. The second half of the film truly made it worth while though. It was very good.

[amyzzz]

I'm kinda glad I've avoided Juno now. I saw Sweeney Todd this weekend, and while it was predictable, the presentation was fan fucking tastic.
I couldn't get into it. It was so ridiculous to have two main characters singing when they cant really sing well, and then have these minor characters witrh crazy operatic voices backing them up.

Also, Juno (the character) most definitely had flaws: a) she got herself pregnant b) she kept going to the adoptive dad's place to hang with him not realizing how awkward/wrong that was

I can't think of a c, but I'm sure someone else will come up with it.

[RotationSlimWang]

Getting pregnant is not a flaw. It's a mistake. There's a difference. And she never actually wanted to do anything wrong with the dad, which was part of the problem with the movie.

[Backwater]

Give Sweeny Todd another chance. It's a great film. Tim Burton's best since Ed Wood.

Anyone notice a trend in Ellen Page movies where she always rips on a band? In Hard Candy she says "I fucking HATE Goldfrapp!"

[amyzzz]

That was awesome when she said that though.

[ghettojournalist]

Getting pregnant is not a flaw. It's a mistake. There's a difference. And she never actually wanted to do anything wrong with the dad, which was part of the problem with the movie.

see the "talking to marrieds" thing endeared me to her. i did a similar thing with a teacher and his wife, although i connected with both of them on a nerdy level.

[PineapplePete]

I saw The Visitor last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was heartfelt and well played. I don't know exactly how to word it but...the movie occupies this weird space between independent and major-production cinema that was new to me. There was some really great video-art-type angels and techniques involved (especially in the final scene), but it was also very polished and smooth. It was the best of both worlds, I guess. No pretentious, risque shit and no fake Hollywood stuff either. The script was nice, if a just little bit flat...the thing I liked about it most was that, it succeeded at making a point about immigration laws without shoving it down your throat. Overall, it was enjoyable and I recommend it.

[jackstraw94086]

Saw Stuck the other night. Interesting movie. Watching Mena Suvari in cornrows get her brains fucked out was entertaining.

[RotationSlimWang]

see the "talking to marrieds" thing endeared me to her. i did a similar thing with a teacher and his wife, although i connected with both of them on a nerdy level.

You mean "endeared her to me," not the other way around. I don't see why she needed endearing. She's already too fucking nice.

[schoolofruckus]

Juno needed plenty of endearment to make up for being a phony, ridiculous mascot for a writer's faked sense of satisfied self.

Seriously - all the fucking great movies you dump on, and you half-liked Juno? That is to say - you were obviously not sufficiently irritated by it to make it your enemy. The mind boggles.

[RotationSlimWang]

It didn't try to be very much, so there's only so much scorn you can throw at it. It was a very flat story with annoying dialogue, carried pretty much entirely by a really good young actress. Also, Foi might have kind of a point about guys and pregnant chicks re: me. Although in my case I'm pretty sure the explanation is slightly different.

[schoolofruckus]

I will agree that it is not a particularly far-reaching film (my earlier assertion that it was pretentious was more of a pile-on than anything). And that Ellen Page is highly skilled at playing a character who is constantly told by everyone around her what an individual she is (I kid - she can definitely act). But that does not make it less offensive. If anything, the film's nonchalant wasting of the talent involved (which is to say, they enticed me into seeing it by casting good actors, and then pissed me off for two straight hours) is one of the most dramatic strikes on its record.

[RotationSlimWang]

Except for the lack of dysfunction and the preposterous little decorations on the dialogue, I think the characters play out pretty honestly and realistically. I'll take that over some Harmony Korine bullshit any day, I suppose.

[schoolofruckus]

Little albino kids who shoot dead cats
Werner Herzog as a hose-happy dad
Casper the dopest ghost

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

a little kid named "Liberty Bell"
a wacky mom who yells at nurses
all the little ciphers spewing some stripper's half-ass hipster jargon

[RotationSlimWang]

All I'm saying is Juno didn't make me REALLY want to take a baseball bat to the people that made it. Just kinda half-heartedly take a baseball to them when they said some silly piece of jargon.

Plus, the Sonic Youth line WAS really good.

[Backwater]

Juno needed plenty of endearment to make up for being a phony, ridiculous mascot for a writer's faked sense of satisfied self.

Seriously - all the fucking great movies you dump on, and you half-liked Juno? That is to say - you were obviously not sufficiently irritated by it to make it your enemy. The mind boggles.


I agree 100%. Diablo Cody is a half-wit. She won the Oscar for best screenplay so that should tell you something about her writing talent right there.

And of all the interesting fucking movies out there to talk about, you guys waste your time with Juno?

How about some better films people?

Iron Man

Forgetting Sarah Marshall

The Strangers

Shit, the fucking Sex and the City movie would make for more interesting discussion than Juno.

[RotationSlimWang]

Umm... excuse me, what's wrong with the Best Screenplay Oscar, faggot?

[iv3rdawG]

I saw The Strangers a week ago. After I first saw it I really didn't like it that much but after it sat with me for a few days it seemed to get better after thinking about it. It's a great throwback to some of the 70s horror films and it's a lot better than most of the horror trash that's filling up the theatres right now (When A Stranger Calls, Hostel 2, The Hills Have Eyes 2, etc.). The ending, I thought, worked very well and the pacing was very weird. It had no plot and flew by. If you're bored and have seen Indiana Jones and Iron Man I'd say check it out.

[schoolofruckus]

I haven't seen any of the above. Randy trashed Juno a lot less thoroughly than he trashes every other film in existence (including many great ones), so I figured I'd pry a little.

Why aren't people talking about Buffalo '66 or L'Eclisse or A Woman Under the Influence?

Some questions don't have answers.

[RotationSlimWang]

Because Buffalo 66 is unlikable crap about unlikable characters?

[schoolofruckus]

Who cares about being liked? Do you?

The best original screenplay Oscar is just like any Oscar - a joke. It actually used to be a fairly reliable category, but the last three winners have been Crash, Little Miss Sunshine, and Juno. Draw your own conclusions.

[RotationSlimWang]

Crash deserved it. The rest of the last two decades is the only even moderately reliable Oscar. And yes, I do care about being liked. If nobody likes you, well, you kinda suck don't you?

[RotationSlimWang]

Allow me to rephrase that--I care whether or not I like things. I don't really give a fuck if other people do.

[schoolofruckus]

Not necessarily.

Crash did not deserve it.

Little Miss Sunshine is a good enough movie, but it did not deserve it either.

[PotVsKtl]

Crash deserved a public beating in a hen house.

[RotationSlimWang]

Yeah, Crash sucked. We need more movies like Buffalo 66, that's what we need.

Anybody have any idea how much more difficult it is to pull off--let alone plot, structure, and actually write--a story like Crash than it is to write any flick you've seen since then? Sorry, but whether or not you like the schmaltz it's really impressive screenwriting.

[RotationSlimWang]

And I certainly won't argue about Little Miss. Road movies are teh suck.

[RotationSlimWang]

BTW--fuck you all for not mentioning Lost In Translation, which is actually the single worst script to receive that award in my lifetime. That you bring up Crash before that is just revolting.

[schoolofruckus]

Yeah, Crash sucked. We need more movies like Buffalo 66, that's what we need.

Anybody have any idea how much more difficult it is to pull off--let alone plot, structure, and actually write--a story like Crash than it is to write any flick you've seen since then? Sorry, but whether or not you like the schmaltz it's really impressive screenwriting.

Yes. You know why? Because every prospective screenwriter on the planet has a "interconnected-yet-random lost souls in the big city" saga sitting on their hard-drive. A few people (such as your boy PTA) go on to do great things with it. A few others wisely discard it. And everyone else in town gets it produced and bores me to tears.

[schoolofruckus]

BTW--fuck you all for not mentioning Lost In Translation, which is actually the single worst script to receive that award in my lifetime. That you bring up Crash before that is just revolting.

A screenplay exists to lay the foundation for a movie. If one script results in a good movie - as Lost in Translation was - then it is a more successful script than one that results in a movie that sucks. Primarily when said sucking is a direct result of the narrative, as with Crash.

[RotationSlimWang]

PTA is exactly what's wrong with those attempts. Lost In Translation wasn't a remotely good movie with the exception of the tiny glimmer that Brills brought to the scene. It was unwritten and horribly directed. Crash is a rather excellent example of exactly what most screenwriters lack, as reflected abundantly in Magnolia.

[wmgaretjax]

I saw The Visitor last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was heartfelt and well played. I don't know exactly how to word it but...the movie occupies this weird space between independent and major-production cinema that was new to me. There was some really great video-art-type angels and techniques involved (especially in the final scene), but it was also very polished and smooth. It was the best of both worlds, I guess. No pretentious, risque shit and no fake Hollywood stuff either. The script was nice, if a just little bit flat...the thing I liked about it most was that, it succeeded at making a point about immigration laws without shoving it down your throat. Overall, it was enjoyable and I recommend it.

It wasn't bad... The ending was nice. It was a little flat, which worked sometimes and didn't others. It was a little sentimental. I would certainly recommend it for a rental.

[schoolofruckus]

Which is?

[RotationSlimWang]

Character arcs.

[schoolofruckus]

Nigga please. If you don't see character arcs galore in Magnolia, then you're of a St. Louis-arch-or-nothing mindset.

[RotationSlimWang]

Right. Cause a rain of frogs really resolves an arc.

[Backwater]

Umm... excuse me, what's wrong with the Best Screenplay Oscar, faggot?

The same thing that's wrong with every Oscar, homophobe.

Do you realize that Stanley Kubrick never won an Oscar?

Oh wait, if you liked Crash then you probably hate Kubrick. You probably don't even know who he was.

If you genuinely, sincerely enjoyed Crash then you know absolutely NOTHING about movies.

You are not allowed to post in this thread anymore.

P.S. there is no Best Screenplay Oscar genius.

[RotationSlimWang]

You're going to quibble over the differentiation between original and adapted? Do you realize that Stanley Kubrick stopped making good movies in 87? Do you realize furthermore that he wasn't a fucking writer? He's rather a perfect example of why every Oscar but the Screenplay nods are completely beyond redemption.

You can hate on Crash all you want as a movie--there's a very big reason it got that Oscar. Same reason Pulp got it.

[wmgaretjax]

Then you know that I'm a black albino straight from Alabama, way down south.

[Backwater]

Do you realize that Stanley Kubrick stopped making good movies in 87?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Yea and he made SOOOO many bad ones after 87.

Countless.

In fact I can count them all on one finger and it's my middle one, pointed towards you.



Crash has the worst screenplay ever in the history of cinema.

Everyone who likes that movie is probably racist, at least to some degree.

How else could you possibly be entertained by or even tolerate over 20 minutes of that garbage?

[roberto73]

Oh wait, if you liked Crash then you probably hate Kubrick. You probably don't even know who he was.

If you genuinely, sincerely enjoyed Crash then you know absolutely NOTHING about movies.

Crash has the worst screenplay ever in the history of cinema.

Everyone who likes that movie is probably racist, at least to some degree.


Backwater wins the Oscar for Most Egregious Use of Hyberbolic, Nonsensical Generalizations.

[bmack86]

Wow. I have the guy on ignore, so I rarely see what I'm missing. That reminds me of why he went on there in the first place.

[PineapplePete]

I like to

separate incomplete

thoughts cause it

takes

up more room.

[SoulDischarge]

I've spent three years in film school hearing about arcs and story, and while yes, a good story can very often mean a good movie, and while a large number of shitty films suffer from a lack of good storytelling, it's not the end-all and be-all of film. It's such an expressive and direct medium that can be used for such a wide variety of purposes. So when people trash a flick just because of a lack of story or arcs, it's pretty agitating and part of the reason I'm so fucking sick of movies and the culture that surrounds them. Stan Brakhage is no hack just because he focused on form and light and color instead of story. Besides, a lot of movies do tell really good stories, just in an unconventional way. 'Gummo' seems pretty formless, but it has a story too. It's kind of a character study of a town that's been devastated by natural disaster and has never quite recovered. So fuck all that noise about impressive storytelling. Who cares how complex it is if it leaves you emotionally cold?

[RotationSlimWang]

The lack of a story is what leaves you emotionally cold. And no, I don't acknowledge that a story-based artform is equally good when it focuses on form and light and color. That's not a movie, that's art film horseshit.

I actually think that people who give Crash all that shit do so because they're racist, to tell you the truth. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that there's some legitimate point to what goes on in that story is blind. There are few better scenes than when Dillon goes into the SUV to pull out the woman he had molested only a few days earlier. Very few.

[KungFuJoe]

while I don't love Crash, I can't argue against it. and I will say this much ...

Crash > Traffic

[whynotsmile99]

while I don't love Crash, I can't argue against it. and I will say this much ...

Crash > Traffic

now thats a meaty argument right there. i enjoyed Crash, but over Traffic? Can't say i agree with that at all.

by the way, i'm 45 minutes into Southland Tales right now. I wish it would end. I don't think i've ever seen a more annoying movie. Geesh

[SoulDischarge]

That's not a movie, that's art film horseshit.


Fine by me. 85% of movies suck anyway.

[ghettojournalist]

just saw "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead". man, those characters are so messed up. Philip Seymor Hoffman and Marisa Tomei are pleasurable as ever, but Ethan Hawke was just a fidgety, annoying screw-up. he really brought the film down for me, but points for topless Tomei.

[RotationSlimWang]

Fine by me. 85% of movies suck anyway.

85 percent? WAY more than 85 percent. There's not even five good movies a year, dude.

[Down Rodeo]

Oh wait, if you liked Crash then you probably hate Kubrick. You probably don't even know who he was.

If you genuinely, sincerely enjoyed Crash then you know absolutely NOTHING about movies.


This is probably the dumbest crap I've read on here.

I fucking loved Crash, and so did the best film critic in America. The people that hate Crash the most seem to be the ones under self-delusion that they're smarter than the rest of us. This ass clown is no exception.

[RotationSlimWang]

I fucking loved Crash, and so did the best film critic in America.

Yes, I did.

[Down Rodeo]

Well played, but Ebert may take offense.

[RotationSlimWang]

Ebert can wrap his cancer-ridden face around my hose.

[Down Rodeo]

Glad to see you have some tact.

[RotationSlimWang]

I got so much tact it drips out my anus.

[full on idle]

Backwater wins the Oscar for Most Egregious Use of Hyberbolic, Nonsensical Generalizations.

I don't understand why anyone continues to humor him.

[full on idle]

I'm about to start Paris J'taime, looks pretty. Lars and the Real Girl was ridiculous. Don't mind looking at Gosling though, don't mind that at all. But I wanted to reach inside the screen and smack that girl that wanted to get some retard ass.

But the brother guy, he was in some other movie that I watched recently that I can't remember what it was called where he was a dumb dude that inherited a storage garage yard, had Zooey D, does anyone remember what that was called?

[SoulDischarge]

I didn't mean 85% of movies released today. I meant looking at film history as a whole. I start to get resentful if I see more than 5 new movies in a year.

For someone who worked with Russ Meyer, Roger Ebert is way too uptight (see: Blue Velvet review) and way too cheesy (see: E.T. review). Not to mention his head looks like a zit that got all the pus from his body squeezed into it, even when he was young.

I liked 'Before The Devil Knows You're Dead.' It made me feel like shit afterwards and restored my contempt for humanity, which is all I really ask for in a movie.

[schoolofruckus]

I'm about to start Paris J'taime, looks pretty. Lars and the Real Girl was ridiculous. Don't mind looking at Gosling though, don't mind that at all. But I wanted to reach inside the screen and smack that girl that wanted to get some retard ass.

But the brother guy, he was in some other movie that I watched recently that I can't remember what it was called where he was a dumb dude that inherited a storage garage yard, had Zooey D, does anyone remember what that was called?

All the Real Girls.

He was also in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.

[RotationSlimWang]

I didn't mean 85% of movies released today. I meant looking at film history as a whole. I start to get resentful if I see more than 5 new movies in a year.

For someone who worked with Russ Meyer, Roger Ebert is way too uptight (see: Blue Velvet review) and way too cheesy (see: E.T. review). Not to mention his head looks like a zit that got all the pus from his body squeezed into it, even when he was young.

I liked 'Before The Devil Knows You're Dead.' It made me feel like shit afterwards and restored my contempt for humanity, which is all I really ask for in a movie.

Okay, the point stands the same--even over the entirety of cinema, way more than 85 percent of all movies suck. For Christ's sake, almost all of them suck prior to the seventies.

[chairmenmeow47]

Crash deserved a public beating in a hen house.

so agreed. god how i hated every second of that movie.

i kind of agree with amy about sweeney todd. i LOVE the musical. LOVE. the singing just wasn't up to par and it didn't match the energy of the screen production. i don't think carter and depp were bad, they just couldn't sing the part. i took voice lessons for 8 years, but i know i don't have the talent to pull off sondheim like that. and i know they did their best, but it wasn't enough. you could tell anthony and johanna had more training. they left out a few of my favourite harmonies (in "a little priest" most notably).

i think they pulled off the look and feel though. anthony, lucy and even pirelli (cohen) were good. i enjoyed it because i love the show. i do agree that the singing was no where near where it should have been. i'm glad they sang it a bit different and didn't try to be lansbury & cariou, cause that would never work. but it was a bit bowie for me at some moments.

i also missed a lot of the chorale singing. was really looking forward to the dramatic SWEEEEEENEYYYYYYYYY. city on fire had to do though :)

[full on idle]

All the Real Girls.

He was also in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.

Maybe he was in All the Real Girls too (I don't remember) but that's not the one I'm talking about, the one I'm talking about is where he gets together with this little white dude that wants to be a badass and tries to pull off crimes. They pour antifreeze or motor oil or something down some dude's septic system and then the dude eats bad clams but they think they killed him...etc, it wasn't that good of a movie. Zooey is a really small role. Plays his sister.

I almost rented that assasination movie but then I remembered I think Westerns are boring.

[amyzzz]

FOI, that western was boring.

[amyzzz]

(sorry Gabe)

[Backwater]

85 percent? WAY more than 85 percent. There's not even five good movies a year, dude.

This summarizes you're whole outlook on life. You're a negative piece of shit that was never loved and is incapable of loving anyone or anything else (like say, movies perhaps.) Just kill yourself now and get it over with. Do us all a favor.

[schoolofruckus]

This is probably the dumbest crap I've read on here.

I fucking loved Crash, and so did the best film critic in America. The people that hate Crash the most seem to be the ones under self-delusion that they're smarter than the rest of us. This ass clown is no exception.

Crash is the classic film that gets so overrated (and described that way), it actually becomes underrated. It's not as good as you think it is; it's not as bad as Backwater thinks it is. It's a decent film with some good moments and some godawful moments. But it's not a genius screenplay, it's the counterweight of original, and it's not the "best" anything other than maybe "the best Paul Haggis-directed movie that I have seen, because I have not seen In the Valley of Elah".

[Backwater]

Are you a scientologist slimwang? No, this isn't some obscure, off-the-wall question. Paul Haggis, the director of Crash is a well known scientologist so that might explain some of your profound love for the movie.

[Backwater]

Valley of Elah is great. It's the best non-documentary film about the current war, which isn't saying a whole lot but it's better than Jarhead and that was good. I was surprised Haggis directed it.

[RotationSlimWang]

No I'm not a scientologist, you jerkoff, I'm a screenwriter. I'll thank you to keep your half-assed uneducated opinions about my art form stuffed neatly up your extra wide asshole.

[Blinken]

Valley of Elah wasn't that good. It had some good moments but overall i felt very indifferent to it.

[SoulDischarge]

No I'm not a scientologist, you jerkoff, I'm a screenwriter.

The distinction between the two gets more unclear every day.

[Backwater]

That it does, that it does. What are some scripts you've sold so far slimwang?

Your artform?!?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA

[Down Rodeo]

Valley of Elah is great. It's the best non-documentary film about the current war, which isn't saying a whole lot but it's better than Jarhead and that was good. I was surprised Haggis directed it.

Jarhead was about the Gulf War, not the current Iraq War.

[Backwater]

Oh yea, that's right. Then IVOE is easily the best about Iraq.

Redacted was the worst. DePalma went from classics like Scarface and Carrie to this shit?! He must have just lost his mind completely over the past 20 years.

[SoulDischarge]

I just watched DePalma's 'Dressed To Kill' the other day. It's kind of a piece of shit, but vaguely entertaining once through because of how stupid it can get. Kind of like 'Basic Instinct' for the 80s. People should stop re-making/adapting 'Psycho.' It never works out. In fact, pretty much everything I've seen by DePalma is kind of tacky and over-the-top. Sometimes it works and is really entertaining, other times it's just annoying. But I've yet to see anything of his I'd consider classic. There are huge gaps in my viewing though.

[Backwater]

Carrie and Scarface are easily his two best films and both classics in their respective genres, Horror and Gangster/Dramatic, Biopic.

BTW I completely agree with your opinion of Before the Devil knows Dead. Grim view on humanity but still true and a good movie.

Anyway, DePalma is basically one of those douchebag directors who makes millions with his films yet most of them aren't very good, kind of like Michael Bay. Just watch an interview with him, Sam Rami is the same way, hahah, good stuff.

[SoulDischarge]

So I just watched 'The Fountain' after reading through some of the early posts of this thread and seeing a lot of praise for it, and I'm extremely disappointed with it. I like Arronofsky's previous work, but this seems to lack what made those great. Mainly, well-developed characters played by strong actors. I officially fucking hate Hugh Jackman. As soon as I realized I recognized him (probably from 'The Prestige') a wave of distaste washed over me. I don't know what it is that makes me want to smack him in the mouth. Maybe it's his face. Anyway, his acting is pretty bad too, in my opinion. I didn't care all too much for most of the rest of the acting, but it was better than his. The emotional core of the film that is supposed to embody the philosophical elements of the film is the relationship between Jackman's character and his wife, and I didn't believe it at all. I think the other main thing that really bothered me about the film is that it was way too short to be able to have room to breath life into its stor(y/ies). I don't hate it, and it's kind of admirable in its ambitions, but for me it just felt like a hollow vessel for a philosophical viewpoint.

[wmgaretjax]

but for me it just felt like a hollow vessel for a philosophical viewpoint.

And a mediocre one at that.

[Backwater]

I hated The Fountain as well. Souldischarge, you and I seem to have the exact same taste in movies. I highly recommend King of Kong and Murderparty, both are low budget films from last year and I'm sure you will love both of them. Any recommendations for me?

[SoulDischarge]

So, further adventures in pointlessly exploring the archives of this thread lead me to make up a top 25 favorite movies list. There was only one movie on it that I had only seen once, so I decided to re-watch and re-evaluate Todd Haynes' 'Safe' presence there. If anything, it's gone up in my estimation.

'Safe' is probably one of the best films of the 90s, if not the best. It's one of those movies that asks more questions than it answers, which are my favorite kind of 'serious' movies. It's almost like an Antonioni flick for America in the 90s, but twice as effective and half as pretentious. If you haven't seen it, it's about Julianne Moore, a picture perfect suburban housewife in the San Fernando Valley in the mid-80s, becoming increasingly more 'allergic' to her environment. The way it develops and builds is subtle and unexpected. It's a slow burn of a movie that never really climaxes. It gets to be extremely ridiculous but always believable. Moore is incredible in this and carries the movie. Her character is such an empty shell, you wonder if she isn't just a mannequin that suddenly came to life one day, yet it doesn't ever feel like the character is underdeveloped on behalf of the filmmakers. She's suburban repression taken to its furthest extreme. Still, every other character in 'Safe' is even more of vapid douchebag, you can't help but feel sorry for Moore's character. Haynes really rips on predatory New Age self-help gurus and culture, providing some of the few deadpan moments of humor in the movie. Mostly though, the tone is of hidden menace and dread. This is seriously one of the most horrifying movies I've ever seen and it always makes me feel uncomfortable when I watch it, similar to a Todd Solondz movie without the exaggerated misanthropy. I think what really makes the film a success is how it never takes a position, but maintains a distant objectivity, allowing for a wide range of interpretations while still definitely being about something. 'Safe' treads a lot of very thin lines, but I don't think it ever really loses balance.


I'm probably over-hyping this, and it's the type of movie that's going to piss a lot of people off, especially people who don't like vague boring arthouse bullshit where nothing happens and no one is likable. But if you are into that kind of thing, 'Safe' is a masterpiece and should check it out if you haven't already.

Also, there's a hilariously misleading trailer for this that is obviously a desperate attempt to save it from inevitable commercial disaster.

[kingsblend420]

Saw The Prestige. Pretty darn good movie.

[PineapplePete]

I've been meaning to watch that movie again. It is beautifully crafted to say the least.

[schoolofruckus]

Antonioni is not pretentious. He's every bit as important and interesting as he thinks.

I admired Safe a lot, but I had a hard time really digging into it. I'd like to see it again; I feel like that would help a lot.

The Fountain is maybe my favorite film of this decade. The acting was terrific in the context of how the movie was drawing characterizations. I agree that it was too short, but only in the theoretical, Roger Ebert sense that you never want a masterpiece to end.


Ryan and I watched The Fall yesterday. I thought it was excellent for the most part. This is one of those films (much like Lady in the Water in this respect, but not much else) where, if the sense of wonder and the visual virtuosity doesn't speak to you on a very core level, its flaws will submarine it very quickly. However, more often than not, I tend to roll with these kinds of films and end up loving them. This film is about a young girl in a hospital in 1915, who meets an injured movie stuntman. The stuntman (played by the dude from "Pushing Daisies") tells her a wild story about 5 heroes trying to take down the bad man (in this case, General Odious), and as the girl's vivid imagination crafts the world in which the story takes place, she slowly begins to piece together the subtext of the stuntman's life. It's a film of unbelievable imagination and an undeniably masterful collaboration between vision, photography, and production design. The acting is solid (and in the case of the little girl, excellent), but there are a few moments that ring slightly false. Again, it's a film with the capacity to nag at you with its imperfections, and the level to which you buy in is critical in mitigating this. I'm also not sure there's a great deal of substance here. But as an entertaining, original adventure film, it's a blast.

On a production appreciation level - I just read that not a single image in the movie was computer generated. The fact that this film - shot in 10+ countries on 5 continents, with some of the most stunningly imagined sets ever built, and an underwater sequence with an elephant - is not among the most expensive ever made is mind-blowing in its own right.

[rage patton]

I saw Kung Fu Panda this weekend. It was great. I thought it was going to be pretty good... but it was thoroughly entertaining. Very funny, great story, great cast. I highly suggest seeing it.
I also saw Zohan. It was pretty funny, but not as good as I had hoped. Too many "buldge" jokes. Don't get me wrong, it was still funny... but I could have waiting to video to see it.

[Mr.Nipples]

SOLARBABIES!
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[luckyface]

I am probably very late to the party, but I saw Indiana Jones this weekend. It was pretty good up until the monkey swing part. Holy shit did it tumble down hill fast after that.

The movie did inspire me to re-watch Raiders and Temple of Doom yesterday, as well. Raiders was cool, but Temple was a severely fucked up movie. I can't believe that was a big money-maker back in '84. Extremely dark and gruesome.

[KungFuJoe]

:pulse kung fu panda :pulse

my only complaint was that the Furious Five weren't very well developed characters. They didn't have much personality, except for maybe Cross' Crane. Tigress didn't even sound like Angelina Jolie, but I guess out of all the 5 characters hers was the only one w/ a tiny bit of depth.

I know this is a cartoon and I shouldn't be so analytical, but I felt they could've made the Furious five a hell of a lot more fun. Plus I have to be because I'm so into kung fu movies. For example, they should have all had distinct kung fu styles. They didn't build on that with their characters. In old school kung fu movies, the Crane, Monkey, Tiger, Mantis & Snake styles were always well manifested. I wish they did so with these characters to relate them to the styles displayed in classic kung fu movies. oh well...

Jack Black & Dustin Hoffman lended great voices. Hoffman was especially impressive, but his characters name was silly. Master Shifu was a little to close to Sifu which is the chinese term for master. So, hearing Master master sounded kind of silly to me. They should've just called him Sifu. Anyways, the animation was beautiful & the movie was consistently funny. good times.

[rage patton]

True, they didn't develop the Furious Fives characters much... but it was a 90 minutes family movie. The voices of the Furious Five were great though. Angelina Jolie, Jackie Chan, David Cross, Seth Rogan and Lucy Lui. All were perfect. Actually, all the characters in the movie were casted perfectly.

[iv3rdawG]

So, HBO premiered Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired last night and I really (for some reason) hadn't known much about the whole case against Polanski, besides him fleeing the country, up until I watched the film. Anyway, I thought it was great. It's a really interesting documentary and it gives huge amounts of insight on the entire case, both from the view of the people involved in the case and just regular folks. Check it out if you can, I think it's showing all week.

[whynotsmile99]

Ok, Southland Tales really was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I truly hated it. Biggest fault: It was BORING. Everything I read about it seemed like an entertaining disaster. I love stupid movies. I don't have the Toxic Avenger box set because I can only appreciate French Nu wave cinema. Would have been happy if it was a entertaining failure, But christ on a cracker ST was horrible. Incredibly sloppy, horribly shot, written, edited. Everything was just annoying and boring. I like the Rock, Sean William Scott and Justin Timberlake as actors more than most people would admit, and I felt embarrased for them all here. Especially JT's karoke to the killers part. The only reason I got through it was because I was doing more fun stuff at the same time, such as folding underwear. so much potential, time, money and it was straight up dung.

Now The Fall.
Fucking loved it. Easily my favorite film of 2008 so far. The girl was incredible. Best child performance I've ever seen, hands down. The critics have said its pretty but not much to it which I find hard to believe. There was so much there. I loved the relationship between the man and the little girl. Both performances were fantastic and they had a great script to work with. I love the touches of humor. If the film was zero fantasy and all based around their relationship, I still would have loved it.

but the fantasy elements....spoilers....

Good god everything in it just left me floored. Every image truly was astonishing. The elephants, the monkey chasing that butterfly, monkey funeral, blue city, character intros...those transitions, holy hell the butterfly/island and priest/rock formation were mind blowing. and of course the greatest stop motion sequence I've ever seen when she has her operation...and that brilliant montage at the end showing real stuntmen from the early 1900's doing some insane shit. I loved Tarsem's tip of the hat to them.

Tarsem is an amazing director. I loved the Cell, I love this even more. Beyond the incredible visuals, I think he has a great handle on pacing, editing, scoring, directing actors and simply telling a great story.

LOVED IT.

I just stated Japon after reading that brief review on here. Good stuff so far.

Delicatessen just came on dvd from netflix. Looking forward to that.

[Down Rodeo]

So I finally saw The Fall tonight, and I feel like someone just made love to my eyes. The reviews above pretty much got it spot on, so I won't elaborate much. This film just has to be seen to be appreciated. There are scenes of such audacity and jaw-dropping beauty that I can't believe one man was able to put them on film. God, the transition between the priest's face and the desert set...absolutely incredible. Oh, and the little girl is the most adorable thing I've seen in a movie.

Basically, this is the kind of movie that encompasses everything that the cinema is supposed to be. It's a shame that more critics aren't seeing it for what it is. Everyone should do themselves a favor and see this movie, especially on the big screen. This will easily be one of the best films of 2008.

[SoulDischarge]

I really wish 'The Fall' were better. If it were, it'd be something I'd want to watch over and over again, but its flaws are too strong for me to get over to do that. I'd see it again, but I don't think it's going to be a personal classic or anything.

Speaking of movies that are extremely flawed but intriguing, I re-watched Scorese's 'Bringing Out The Dead.' I hadn't seen it since it first came to video, and I remember vaguely liking it. God knows it has a lot of problems (hey Patricia Arquette!) but there are a few things I think it got down just right. Specifically, atmosphere. The movie was great at getting me to inhabit Cage's character's world and mind. For me there were moments of transcendent brilliance that overshadowed some of the less inspired parts, like the way the 'haunting' was executed. Part of the reason I probably took to this is that I prefer Scorsese's smaller, more personal movies, like 'After Hours,' 'Taxi Driver,' and 'The King Of Comedy.' I also really appreciate Nick Cage when his particular style of over/under-acting are utilized properly, and I liked him here. I've always been of the opinion that I'd rather see a fascinating disaster than a boring success, and this is an example of that.

[Hopeless Semantic]

I haven't seen The Fall, but I've seen Fall. If you haven't seen that one, I recommend it. For the life of me, I cannot remember the whole point of the movie, but when I do I will post a better description of it.

Don't Mess With The Zohan was a tale of two halves in my opinion. This was par for the course when it comes to Adam Sandler material. I haven't been a huge fan of his since the Billy Madison days so I may be a bit biased about the latest release. It had its moments as Rage Patton mentioned earlier in this thread and the first 30 minutes of the movie kept me laughing. However, it wasn't consistent and lost its luster after the midway point.

Using tired Jewish/Israeli cliches, the movie lacked any goofy or continuous momentum and that usually spells doom for a comedy. It did, however, had tons of eye candy and that gave momentarily rise to some wows and a few smacks of the lips. But no matter how hot I thought Emmanuelle Chiriqui is, the storyline puttered, started, and made too many hummus jokes.

There were characters played by Rob Schneider (if it weren't for Adam Sandler, would this guy even be alive?), Mariah Carey (I don't know why I would, but I'd totally do M. Carey), and John Turturro (Transformer to this--he hasn't had it this good in a longggg while) and they provided a light touch to this movie. Anyhow, I do recommend it if you have a free pass like I did and time to kill. If you do not, save your $11 dollars and go see something else.

[Backwater]

I haven't seen The Fall, but I've seen Fall. If you haven't seen that one, I recommend it. For the life of me, I cannot remember the whole point of the movie, but when I do I will post a better description of it.

Don't Mess With The Zohan was a tale of two halves in my opinion. This was par for the course when it comes to Adam Sandler material. I haven't been a huge fan of his since the Billy Madison days so I may be a bit biased about the latest release. It had its moments as Rage Patton mentioned earlier in this thread and the first 30 minutes of the movie kept me laughing. However, it wasn't consistent and lost its luster after the midway point.

Using tired Jewish/Israeli cliches, the movie lacked any goofy or continuous momentum and that usually spells doom for a comedy. It did, however, had tons of eye candy and that gave momentarily rise to some wows and a few smacks of the lips. But no matter how hot I thought Emmanuelle Chiriqui is, the storyline puttered, started, and made too many hummus jokes.

There were characters played by Rob Schneider (if it weren't for Adam Sandler, would this guy even be alive?), Mariah Carey (I don't know why I would, but I'd totally do M. Carey), and John Turturro (Transformer to this--he hasn't had it this good in a longggg while) and they provided a light touch to this movie. Anyhow, I do recommend it if you have a free pass like I did and time to kill. If you do not, save your $11 dollars and go see something else.



Billy Madison sucks Donkey balls. Without a shadow of a doubt the best (and the only good for that matter) Adam Sandler film is Punch Drunk Love. Go and rent it right away if you aren't already familiar with it. Reign Over Me was alright, but not great. Punch Drunk Love is great, shit man, like it was P.T. Anderson's precursor to There Will Be Fucking BLood and if you don't like that film then you just don't appreciate Films period. Not to mention Boogie Nights and Magnolia.

[RotationSlimWang]

Oh god, shut up you fucking freshman film student faggot.

[Backwater]

fucking freshman film student faggot.


Somebody is JEALOUS

Go suck your Guatemelan Mom's cunt, you know deep down in your heat that I'm better than you at life!

[RotationSlimWang]

Go suck your Guatemelan Mom's cunt, you know deep down in your heat that I'm better than you at life!

This avatar never, ever stops ruling.

[rage patton]

Don't Mess With The Zohan was a tale of two halves in my opinion. This was par for the course when it comes to Adam Sandler material. I haven't been a huge fan of his since the Billy Madison days so I may be a bit biased about the latest release. It had its moments as Rage Patton mentioned earlier in this thread and the first 30 minutes of the movie kept me laughing. However, it wasn't consistent and lost its luster after the midway point.

Using tired Jewish/Israeli cliches, the movie lacked any goofy or continuous momentum and that usually spells doom for a comedy. It did, however, had tons of eye candy and that gave momentarily rise to some wows and a few smacks of the lips. But no matter how hot I thought Emmanuelle Chiriqui is, the storyline puttered, started, and made too many hummus jokes.

There were characters played by Rob Schneider (if it weren't for Adam Sandler, would this guy even be alive?), Mariah Carey (I don't know why I would, but I'd totally do M. Carey), and John Turturro (Transformer to this--he hasn't had it this good in a longggg while) and they provided a light touch to this movie. Anyhow, I do recommend it if you have a free pass like I did and time to kill. If you do not, save your $11 dollars and go see something else.

The cameos were great as well... Kevin Smith and John McEnroe as themselves, as well as Dave Matthews as the redneck were pretty funny. But yeah, you covered it all pretty well.

Billy Madison sucks Donkey balls. Without a shadow of a doubt the best (and the only good for that matter) Adam Sandler film is Punch Drunk Love. Go and rent it right away if you aren't already familiar with it. Reign Over Me was alright, but not great. Punch Drunk Love is great, shit man, like it was P.T. Anderson's precursor to There Will Be Fucking BLood and if you don't like that film then you just don't appreciate Films period. Not to mention Boogie Nights and Magnolia.

Booooooooo. Billy Madison is a classic. As is Happy Gilmour.

[Mr.Nipples]

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[Backwater]

I like how your credibility rests in your own computer . . . YOU HAVE LOST......... AT LIFE

[rage patton]

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Whatever happened to Daniel Stern?

[Mr.Nipples]

i miss him

[rage patton]

Anyone remember this one?

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[Mr.Nipples]

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[Xenocide]

Billy Madison sucks Donkey balls. Without a shadow of a doubt the best (and the only good for that matter) Adam Sandler film is Punch Drunk Love. Go and rent it right away if you aren't already familiar with it. Reign Over Me was alright, but not great. Punch Drunk Love is great, shit man, like it was P.T. Anderson's precursor to There Will Be Fucking BLood and if you don't like that film then you just don't appreciate Films period. Not to mention Boogie Nights and Magnolia.

Billy Madison DOES suck...


but Reign Over Me is the best Sandler flick...

[tessalasset]

Just saw The Counterfeiter which was fantastic, but on a different note...


I'm not sure if I just noticed this because I was drunk tonight, but jesus, I wonder how much they spent on advertisements for The Love Guru. Because they bought literally every single bus stop ad on Beverly Blvd. 2 at each stop, and on both sides of the street. It was freaking me out, man.

[Xenocide]

Oh yea, that's right. Then IVOE is easily the best about Iraq.

Redacted was the worst. DePalma went from classics like Scarface and Carrie to this shit?! He must have just lost his mind completely over the past 20 years.


the best film on the current war would be No End In Sight... nominated for best documentary...

but yeah, Redacted was a piece of shit...

[Backwater]

Why We Fight is another great documentary, better than No End In Sight, but we're talking about "movies" here, fiction. Nominations / Academy Awards mean NOTHING

[Hopeless Semantic]

Billy Madison sucks Donkey balls. Without a shadow of a doubt the best (and the only good for that matter) Adam Sandler film is Punch Drunk Love. Go and rent it right away if you aren't already familiar with it. Reign Over Me was alright, but not great. Punch Drunk Love is great, shit man, like it was P.T. Anderson's precursor to There Will Be Fucking BLood and if you don't like that film then you just don't appreciate Films period. Not to mention Boogie Nights and Magnolia.

Firstly, I meant in the area of Sandler's comedies, not his overall body of work. I have seen Punch Drunk Love and Reign Over Me as well. They're both good films with Reign Over Me getting the nod (imo) over PDL. Why? Because of the strength of acting Cheadle brought to the movie. I mean, it is all subjective to taste so I prefer the sad premise behind Reign. I saw PDL a long time ago so perhaps I have to refresh my memory on it. I enjoyed There Will Be Blood for the most part on Daniel Day Lewis. He made that film.

I was just offering my take on Zohan and in no way trying to come off as a film expert.

Anyone ever see Brotherhood of War or Tae Guk Gi? It is a Korean film about the Korean War. Very vivid war film...

[KungFuJoe]

I still haven't seen Tae Guk Gi, but it's on my list, which is ever growing.

speaking of which, for those of you that live in New York or plan on being in New York between the weeks of June 20th - July 6th, if you do not catch at least one screening at this festival you are fucking lame & a loser...

http://www.subwaycinema.com/

seriously, the boys over at Subway Cinema ALWAYS bring it and this year is the beefiest line-up I've ever seen them pull out. I'm extremely fucking jealous of any mofo that's going to be able to attend this years NYAFF. From actioner crowd pleasers, to wicked horror flicks and possibly one of the most important films of the year in United Red Army. Even if you can't go you should probably read up on this years schedule if you want to learn a thing or two about Asian Cinema. This IS the most fun film festival in the U.S. No doubt.

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[schoolofruckus]

Backwater:

There have been 241 pages of discussion on this thread, and until you arrived, it had primarily been of a civil, occasionally high-quality nature. At the very least, the uncivil and low-quality exchanges had at least been funny. You, on the other hand, come off as a meatball sandwich on steroids. You do not know as much as you think you do, and your fondness for expressing your thoughts via mouth-breathing tirades only further undermines anything of value that you might have to add. Please either raise your game, or take your monkey bullshit elsewhere.

[RotationSlimWang]

Backwater has sent me the following PM, subject line "It's right here."

Do you want to fight? Hand to hand? Or are you a fucking pussy???? If you're not a fucking pussy then reply, I'll tell you the time and place, or you tell me, I don't care. Let's go

[leo01g]

hahahaha INternet fights

[RotationSlimWang]

I mean, judging by the volume of question marks he uses, he certainly sounds like a legitimate tough guy, don't you think?

[chairmenmeow47]

i watched death and the maiden before bed last night. holy smokes that was some fucked up shit. i really liked it though; probably because it's a play. sigourney weaver and ben kingsley were both excellent. her pathetic husband was good at being completely useless, which i guess is what the role required; however i would have liked a little more from him. i very much enjoyed this film though :)

[Xenocide]

Why We Fight is another great documentary, better than No End In Sight, but we're talking about "movies" here, fiction. Nominations / Academy Awards mean NOTHING

not to pull a you on you, but Why We Fight isn't about the Iraq war either, which was the immediate topic... and yes, it is an amazing film... try watching Rush To War, if you liked Why We Fight...

Documentaries are still movies... Biopics and Historical Dramas are movies, yet not fiction...

[RotationSlimWang]

Um, documentaries and non-fiction dramatizations are not remotely the same thing. You can't really compare them. Biopics and historical dramas are fiction--the things they're depicting are not real life. They're interpretations of things that supposedly happened.

[schoolofruckus]

Trailer for Miracle at St. Anna, Spike Lee's new World War II movie. (http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/8290153/standardformat/)

I guess this is an interesting set-up for a WWII flashback story. Here's hoping they don't make the old guy appear to be one character and then reveal him to be another (especially if the macguffin dies somewhere in the flashback narrative).

Also, resisting the urge to do some We Were Soldiers-like cutting back and forth from the battle field to back home would be much appreciated.

Note: I have very little hope that Spike practiced du restraint on either count.

[BROKENDOLL]

Backwater:

There have been 241 pages of discussion on this thread, and until you arrived, it had primarily been of a civil, occasionally high-quality nature. At the very least, the uncivil and low-quality exchanges had at least been funny. You, on the other hand, come off as a meatball sandwich on steroids. You do not know as much as you think you do, and your fondness for expressing your thoughts via mouth-breathing tirades only further undermines anything of value that you might have to add. Please either raise your game, or take your monkey bullshit elsewhere. Is this the extended version of STFU?

[Young blood]

Trailer for Miracle at St. Anna, Spike Lee's new World War II movie. (http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/8290153/standardformat/)

I guess this is an interesting set-up for a WWII flashback story. Here's hoping they don't make the old guy appear to be one character and then reveal him to be another (especially if the macguffin dies somewhere in the flashback narrative).

Also, resisting the urge to do some We Were Soldiers-like cutting back and forth from the battle field to back home would be much appreciated.

Note: I have very little hope that Spike practiced du restraint on either count.

Is this what lee and eastwood are fighting over?

[Hopeless Semantic]

I still haven't seen Tae Guk Gi, but it's on my list, which is ever growing.

speaking of which, for those of you that live in New York or plan on being in New York between the weeks of June 20th - July 6th, if you do not catch at least one screening at this festival you are fucking lame & a loser...

http://www.subwaycinema.com/

seriously, the boys over at Subway Cinema ALWAYS bring it and this year is the beefiest line-up I've ever seen them pull out. I'm extremely fucking jealous of any mofo that's going to be able to attend this years NYAFF. From actioner crowd pleasers, to wicked horror flicks and possibly one of the most important films of the year in United Red Army. Even if you can't go you should probably read up on this years schedule if you want to learn a thing or two about Asian Cinema. This IS the most fun film festival in the U.S. No doubt.



It is a great movie (Tae Guk Gi).

The NYAFF is something I'd like to catch sometime.

[schoolofruckus]

Is this what lee and eastwood are fighting over?

Sort of. Spike was complaining that Eastwood's films were racist because they didn't show any black soldiers. The fact that Spike has a new film that covers similar territory coming out in the very near future definitely seems to be as much motivation for that dialogue as the actual cast for Flags of Our Fathers.

[schoolofruckus]

For those who missed it the last time - or were too scared to watch it in Spanish - here is a trailer for David Fincher's new film: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (http://videos.movie-list.com/view_video.php?viewkey=9d9058fcb0b968dbbbd6).

As far as American movies go, this is the one I'm most excited about for this year. And if I were betting Oscars, this would be the one I'd put the money on.

[Hopeless Semantic]

Wow, I watched the preview and it looked pretty cool, Ruckus. I read the book and it seems to follow it to a T. I don't know about Pitt though, but I'm sure he'll do a good job. There's a Spanish version of this film?

[schoolofruckus]

No. Well, probably. But what I was referring to is that I posted a YouTube of the Spanish version of the trailer a few weeks ago (it was essentially the same thing). Paramount yanked it pretty quick. I'm guessing this one won't have a very long shelf life either.

[Young blood]

I saw it in the theater before Indiana Jones the other day.

just sayin