Schoolio's Movie Corner

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

i don't think the question is appropriateness....I doubt there's blood and violence in it. I think it's a movie about childhood that isn't being dumbed down and could be enjoyed by everyone

[PassiveTheory]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5991/wtwta.jpg

SRSLY? I didn't know this was being made into a movie. One of my favorite books when I was a kid.

[BKsaysAction!]

Yeah for those that didn't know its Spike Jonze's next movie and was originally supposed to be released last year but the studio thought it was too scary so they told spike to recut it.

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Looks good

[schoolofruckus]

I'm just wondering why there's such excitement. I mean, I liked the book when I was 10, but I haven't thought about it much since.

On a scale of say...Finding Nemo -- Coraline -- Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban -- and Pan's Labyrinth,
where would this movie fall? (inasmuch as how appropriate it would be for kids)

Well, my excitement is basically because A. I LOVED that book, B. I LOVE Spike Jonze, and C. because it just seems like one of those perfect marriages of director and material. I feel like he will make it something that will literally transcend genres and demographics and be loved by people of all ages and backgrounds (anyone with good taste, that is). The small bits of material we've seen so far - the YouTube clips of test footage, the small bits of info about voice casting, the poster that Evan showed above, and those skateboards I posted photos of a while ago with more likenesses of the wild things - have been promising,not mind-blowing; I like the naturalist tone in an absurdist world feel that I'm getting. I'm also inclined to believe the one on-set source who I have heard any word from (via Chris) that this could literally be "The Wizard of Oz" of this generation.

In summation, I expect this to do battle with Terrence Malick's dinosaurs-in-IMAX movie for best of the year honors.

The fact that a test audience full of kids was disturbed by it suggests that it probably won't be a film directed towards them, but I can't see it full-blown excluding them either, so let's put it below Pan's Labyrinth on your spectrum.

[indietron]

Ahhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhh :)

[Sushov23]

I was really interested in a film adaptation of Where the wild things are, but once I found out Spike Jonze was involved(directing), it became meh.

[rage patton]

I cannot wait for this movie.

[indietron]

The fact that a test audience full of kids was disturbed by it suggests that it probably won't be a film directed towards them, but I can't see it full-blown excluding them either, so let's put it below Pan's Labyrinth on your spectrum.

Didn't they redo alot of it because it was "too disturbing?" And thats why its been taking so long to come out?

[BKsaysAction!]

Yeah they recut it meaning they went back and reedited the film.

[C DUB YA]

This has been the works for over 2 years now.

They didn't recut it to make it more kid friendly.

There have been many stories on why it got delayed and recut - most of those have been that it didn't look as good as promised or the flow wasn't right or that it was too long.

Either way that's hardly ever a good sign, but... I am really looking forward to it - even though the poster nicks the Men In Black type style.

[nbvwes]

i'm waiting for Voyage of the Dawn Treader...

[schoolofruckus]

I was really interested in a film adaptation of Where the wild things are, but once I found out Spike Jonze was involved(directing), it became meh.

That's because you're a dumbass.

Didn't they redo alot of it because it was "too disturbing?" And thats why its been taking so long to come out?

Depends on whose story you buy.

This has been the works for over 2 years now.

They didn't recut it to make it more kid friendly.

There have been many stories on why it got delayed and recut - most of those have been that it didn't look as good as promised or the flow wasn't right or that it was too long.


This is closer to what I've heard. The effects on the film are also really complicated; since it's a mixture of creature suits with CG faces, they had a ton of work creating the characters on the footage they had - which was basically shot as a bare-bones independent film in Australia.

I think this article/interview (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39145) tells you all you need to know.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

i was just about to post that same article! it's a fantastic interview

[HowToDisappear]

Wow. Great article!

[AlecEiffel]

i'm waiting for Voyage of the Dawn Treader...

Last I heard that's not being made. Disney has apparently dropped any future plans for Narnia.

[C DUB YA]

Disney has - but it has been picked up with 20th Century Fox handling everything now

[Monklish]

I was really interested in a film adaptation of Where the wild things are, but once I found out Spike Jonze was involved(directing), it became meh.

God you're a tasteless bag of fuck.

[amyzzz]

That last Narnia movie was awful. The first was pretty good.

[AlecEiffel]

I just saw that Rachel Getting Married, and I'm sure this has probably been discussed here, but I was pleasantly surprised by the random appearance of Robyn Hitchcock.

[C DUB YA]

That last Narnia movie was awful. The first was pretty good.

I didn't care for either of them.

[sbessiso]

I couldn't even make it past the first 20 minutes of the first Narnia movie. A bunch of my friends rented it and almost immediately we were all asleep on the couch, our heads on each others shoulders

[SoulDischarge]

God you're a tasteless bag of fuck.

Someone had to say it.

[schoolofruckus]

This kind of blows my mind. In the end, I don't care, but it feels a little bit like the Killers headlining Coachella:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/buttoncriteron.jpg

[SoulDischarge]

Well, they did put out Armageddon.

[schoolofruckus]

Good point.



Armageddon, in my eyes, is superior to Benjamin Button. Its aim is significantly lower, but its execution more successful.

[wmgaretjax]

huh... i can understand it from a visual effects point. they have a number of movies that are mediocre but were landmarks for really specific technical or contextual reasons...

[schoolofruckus]

Like Salo, for example.



The main thing that bums me out about Ben Button getting the treatment is that it doesn't need it. Paramount wouldn't do as good a job on the DVD, but they would sink plenty of money into it and it would at least be decent quality. Why doesn't Criterion pick up Ballast for release? Or fucking Silent Light or The Man From London for that matter?? These films need help; Ballast was distributed off the director's back on nearly a one-theater-at-a-time basis, and the other two haven't played anything US outside of a museum. These are the films that need help around here; not a $150 million production that got 13 Oscar nominations.

[bmack86]

Well I won't feel so bad about buying it watch it for the first time now, since it'll just go with the rest of my criterions.

[Mr.Nipples]

This kind of blows my mind. In the end, I don't care, but it feels a little bit like the Killers headlining Coachella:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/buttoncriteron.jpg

what the fuck!?

[bobert]

Armageddon, in my eyes, is superior to Benjamin Button. Its aim is significantly lower, but its execution more successful.

You're silly.

[schoolofruckus]

Am I? Armageddon is entirely successful at being a big, dumb, ADD-riddled action film with animal crackers on Liv Tyler's boobs. Benjamin Button fell short of being a meaningful exploration of death, time, and the significance of trajectories between the two.

If Michael Bay came out and said that Armageddon was supposed to be his homage to Bicycle Thieves, then I would change my stance.

[SoulDischarge]

Maybe Button doesn't need help, but possibly Criterion could use a high profile release. The market for $40 Bergman discs can't be too huge.

[wmgaretjax]

Yeah... That was my thought. A chance for Criterion to make money... Mostly I think there are a lot of films from the last 20 years that deserve the Crit treatment... I wish they would spend a little more time there, because as much as I love Powell and Pressburger, I don't need every B release they ever did on Criterion.

[schoolofruckus]

That's what I've been thinking this afternoon. Like with everything else these days - in this economy, it certainly wouldn't hurt for them to have a disc with a built-in audience outside of the usual Criterionphiles.

But that's not to say I'm dismissing the possibility that the Criterion team loved the fuck out of the movie itself. I'm sure they had to regard it pretty highly to include it, and I know a lot of people who really did love it. I really hope that this is more the case than them being in dire need of a hit. It would be really unfortunate if financial circumstances posed a serious threat to their status as one of the strongest, most influential film preservation groups left these days.

[schoolofruckus]

Yeah... That was my thought. A chance for Criterion to make money... Mostly I think there are a lot of films from the last 20 years that deserve the Crit treatment... I wish they would spend a little more time there, because as much as I love Powell and Pressburger, I don't need every B release they ever did on Criterion.

I've always wondered why none of Tarr's films have been included. Does Artificial Eye fiercely guard the rights?

[amyzzz]

I regret wiki-ing Criterion Collection because now I want some laserdiscs.

[Monklish]

I regret wiki-ing Criterion Collection because now I want some laserdiscs.

Would you like some Betamax to go with those?

[bobert]

Am I? Armageddon is entirely successful at being a big, dumb, ADD-riddled action film with animal crackers on Liv Tyler's boobs. Benjamin Button fell short of being a meaningful exploration of death, time, and the significance of trajectories between the two.

If Michael Bay came out and said that Armageddon was supposed to be his homage to Bicycle Thieves, then I would change my stance.

So by your logic, anything that strives to be something grand and fails, has less merit than say, Deuce Bigelow, a movie that strived to be a total piece of shit, and succeeded? Benjamin Button wasn't a great movie, but it definitely had its moments and was certainly worth watching. Armageddon was awful, even by dumb action movie standards, and I think you're giving Michael Bay a lot of credit in assuming he wasn't out to make a profound, realistic, thrilling portrait of the end of the world.

[schoolofruckus]

Somehow, I think the parody video below rapes Willy Wonka even less than Tim Burton did.

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[schoolofruckus]

So by your logic, anything that strives to be something grand and fails, has less merit than say, Deuce Bigelow, a movie that strived to be a total piece of shit, and succeeded? Benjamin Button wasn't a great movie, but it definitely had its moments and was certainly worth watching. Armageddon was awful, even by dumb action movie standards, and I think you're giving Michael Bay a lot of credit in assuming he wasn't out to make a profound, realistic, thrilling portrait of the end of the world.


Anything that disappoints me as badly as Benjamin Button did is going to be judged savagely. I don't make the rules.

If I had to pick one or the other to watch today, I would pick Armageddon. If I had the choice of taking one disc or the other to an island, I would probably take Ben Button, but I bet I would regret it about 30 minutes into my next viewing.

[thestripe]

Gabe your Ben Button hate has grown immensely since your first review. Come on now, Armageddon?

[bobert]

If I had to pick one or the other to watch today, I would pick Armageddon. If I had the choice of taking one disc or the other to an island, I would probably take Ben Button, but I bet I would regret it about 30 minutes into my next viewing.

Surprising. I'd think the Liv Tyler animal cracker scene would make prime fodder for your desert island jerk-off parties.

[SoulDischarge]

I don't really care about a few lackluster releases from Criterion so long as they continue to release good films that don't have even have region 1 discs yet, and they're pretty reliable in that regard. I still haven't even gotten around to watching the vast majority of the collection yet, so I could use the time to catch up anyway. Although it would be nice if they would stop re-releasing stuff they've already released with an extra disc tacked on.

[schoolofruckus]

Gabe your Ben Button hate has grown immensely since your first review. Come on now, Armageddon?

That's simply not true, The. It's more that I have always tried to hold my tongue on the failures of Button, because I think David Fincher is one of the best filmmakers in America. But I have never had anything nice to say about his latest:

Count me among those who are wildly disappointed by The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. Considering who's involved, I don't want to beat up on it too badly - and I also would have to get into spoilers to describe many of my problems with it - but this definitely takes the cake for the saddest and most unfortunate shortfall of 2008.

The difference (one of the few) between this film and Forrest Gump, in my opinion, is that Forrest Gump succeeds with what it tries to be. Gump isn't deep, it isn't a masterpiece, and it absolutely wasn't the best film of 1994. As far as its offensiveness goes, I'll leave that to the people who cried foul over the "Full Retard" exchange in Tropic Thunder to decide. But Gump works - to the extent that you buy into it - as an entertaining, effects-driven summer tragicomedy. Remember, it came out in the summer of that year; if it hadn’t gone on to become The Film That Stole Pulp Fiction’s Oscar, it would be seen as an acceptable (if too schmaltzy by half), moderately endearing crowd pleaser. But Button had the potential to be a great film about the nature of life, love, death, or any combination thereof. Instead, I’m afraid we got a bloated fairy tale with a wildly-miscalculated contemporary framing device; a historical epic with an unthinkable (given the talent involved) amount of Hollywood phony factor (not to mention a laundry list of borrowed conventions that went out of style….well…about 14 years ago); a love story that, frankly, could have used a little more heart; and a tremendous showcase for visual effects so potent, they can even drown out acting talents once thought to be unsinkable (i.e., a Cate Blanchett performance that is 80% unwatchable).

I didn’t HATE Benjamin Button. I wouldn’t even say “don’t see it”. I would merely advise anyone who has yet to see it to drastically lower their expectations.




Surprising. I'd think the Liv Tyler animal cracker scene would make prime fodder for your desert island jerk-off parties.

I was under the assumption I was being banished to this island alone. Not much of a party to be had in that case.

[SoulDischarge]

Not too mention how hard it is to score poppers on a desert island.

[schoolofruckus]

I don't really care about a few lackluster releases from Criterion so long as they continue to release good films that don't have even have region 1 discs yet, and they're pretty reliable in that regard. I still haven't even gotten around to watching the vast majority of the collection yet, so I could use the time to catch up anyway. Although it would be nice if they would stop re-releasing stuff they've already released with an extra disc tacked on.

I agree 100%. I don't love everything they put out - again, last weekend I saw one of the worst films of my life with their stamp on it. And if they use their Ben Button profits to obtain the rights to The Red Desert, Husbands, or any of the 2008 films I listed, all the better.

[thestripe]

That's simply not true, The. It's more that I have always tried to hold my tongue on the failures of Button, because I think David Fincher is one of the best filmmakers in America. But I have never had anything nice to say about his latest:

I know, but the statement below is more accurate than droping the Armageddon bomb.


I didn’t HATE Benjamin Button. I wouldn’t even say “don’t see it”. I would merely advise anyone who has yet to see it to drastically lower their expectations.

[bobert]

I was under the assumption I was being banished to this island alone. Not much of a party to be had in that case.

Not with that kind of attitude.

[BKsaysAction!]

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That about sums up Michael Bay.

[indietron]

I finally saw Watchmen. Acting was bad. Story was great (never read the novel). Crappy music (bar bob dylan). Awkward sex scene. Loved the ending.

[sbessiso]

WTF??

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090318/REVIEWS/903189991

[schoolofruckus]

He gave four stars to Watchmen too.

Ebert was one of Dark City's biggest fans, so I think he's probably more inclined to give Proyas a break than most people.

[sbessiso]

I love "Dark City" too. I watched it with his commentary and everything. And him giving "Watchmen" 4 stars is another WTF, but this. This is just weird.

Obviously I haven't seen the movie, but it just looks so......bad

[bug on your lip]

yeah, i just picked up the special edition Dark City

luv that movie

[wmgaretjax]

The ending of Dark City does not hold up well.

[schoolofruckus]

I only saw Dark City - the original cut - a couple years ago. I don't remember it that well, just that I thought it was pretty awesome.

[amyzzz]

I hated Dark City when it came out but have since grown to love it.

[BKsaysAction!]

Dark City is one of those perfect late night movies that comes on HBO at 2am that you end up staying up the rest of the night and watching.

[schoolofruckus]

I went to see The Perfect Sleep the other night with Jeff (my editor on Walk). I heard about the film when I scouted one time with the director, a young filmmaker/locations manager named Jeremy Alter. He was one of the producers on Inland Empire. He wooed me with stories about Lynch's methodology - mostly how Lynch would call him out of the blue once every few months and ask him to gather a midget, a monkey, a baby grand piano, and a dozen hookers at a warehouse in Pomona the following day, and that was basically all the prep that was required - and then he told me about his own film. I've been keeping an eye out for it ever since, and it's now in the midst of a two-week run at the Sunset 5.

The Perfect Sleep is a combination of 30's noir and martial arts. It's narrated by a cold-blooded killer with no name (is there any other kind?) who has returned to Los Angeles after some time away. He's come back for his life-long love, the beautiful Porphyria, who we learn (via a convoluted, yet overly-clarified backstory) was an orphan of the Russian mafia along with our "hero". The third orphan in their childhood group (shades of Slumdog) blames the narrator for his own father's death, and thus has become a ruthless assassin under the mob boss Nikolai - the pseudo-father figure in all three of our main characters' lives. When our hero returns, he is immediately marked for death, and Porphyria's daughter - with one of the narrator's lifelong associates who represents her one chance at sane life - gets kidnapped. And there's kung-fu. A lot of it.

As you can tell, this film is about as pulp as it gets. It's got a serious meta fixation as well; the narrator even comments on the use of certain shots in the film itself. This kind of thing rarely works as intended (Adaptation. being a substantial exception), and this film - try as it might - doesn't have quite enough self-assurance to pull it off. Between the story being explained a little too thoroughly and many key scenes/sequences dragging on a good 1-2 minutes too long, the film never quite grasps its intended tone with any kind of confidence. There is also some dreadful acting; Roselyn Sanchez may look the role of "most beautiful woman ever", but did they even bother hearing her read beforehand? This puts an exclamation point on the fact - established by Angelina Jolie's historically bad work in Alexander - that filmmakers need to cast actual Russian women if the film calls for them. The main character (played by Anton Pardoe) fares only slightly better; his Baleman growl gets employed in the service of some ridiculous lines (which, as the film's screenwriter, he can only blame himself for), and he struggles when his emotional pitch is asked to be raised.

That said, there is definitely some fun to be had with this film. The supporting characters - in particular a doctor whose anatomical education merely informs him on the most effective way to kill people - are far more entertaining than the principles. The film has a generally appealing look and pretty good fight scenes. And if you can roll with the ridiculousness, it's easy to go along with. This isn't something I would wholeheartedly recommend, but if you're in the mood for a genre-jonesing wank, you could certainly do worse. It's better than fucking Grindhouse, at least.

[Sushov23]

Dark City is a great film, I agree with you guys. Has anyone seen Knowing yet?

[schoolofruckus]

Some of you may be familiar with Bound For Glory, the Woody Guthrie biopic that starred David Carradine. Apparently there was a screening of it in Santa Monica this past week, at which David Carradine (who plays Guthrie), Haskell Wexler (the legendary cinematographer who shot it), and Ronny Cox (one of the costars) all happened to attend. A Q&A had been planned with Carradine; it ended up involving Wexler and Cox. It also ended up going gloriously fucking insane. I deeply wish I had been able to see this.

This account (http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2009/03/back_to_the_aer.php) is a FANTASTIC read. An interest in the movie - or the people involved - is not necessary to enjoy.

[wmgaretjax]

I've never seen the film. I am really curious to now.

I don't think most people realize how fucking vicious film sets and crews can be. Shit gets intense, and people carry very strong impressions of people for a long time as a result.

[ivankay]

Hey suckas. i have an idea you may think "noooooooo!", but trust me, it could be a blast. How's about a group from this thread go to The Sound of Music Sing A Long at the Hollywood Bowl on September 26th (http://www.hollywoodbowl.com/tickets/performance_detail.cfm?id=3975)(a Saturday)? i have been a few times and it is fun. It's a grand ol' drunken time. Every time i have gone has been sold out.

Just throwing it out there.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/almightytez/EdelweissTheSoundOfMusic.jpg

[sbessiso]

Somehow, I think the parody video below rapes Willy Wonka even less than Tim Burton did.

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Goddammit

goddfuckingdammit

godfuckingjesusmaryandjosephdammit

I love Christopher Lloyd. One of a kind. I wish he were still in more movies. People need to hire this man!!

[C DUB YA]

Yep - I pretty much hated Burton's Wonka.

He let the CG run wild and it cost the real beauty of the picture - the story.

Depp made it watchable, but I felt his take on Wonka was always just off. Maybe Wilder put too much of a stamp on it? In the end it was Wilder's more twisted and subtle Wonka that made the first one better. Kinda like what has happened with the recent Joker - hell you get some great actor like Depp to do it, but that will always belong to Heath. Wilder's Wonka is kinda like that - to a lesser extent.

Also, those Elfman music numbers with all the same little CG oompas... so painful.

[Gonshman]

Yep - I pretty much hated Burton's Wonka.

He let the CG run wild and it cost the real beauty of the picture - the story.

Depp made it watchable, but I felt his take on Wonka was always just off. Maybe Wilder put too much of a stamp on it? In the end it was Wilder's more twisted and subtle Wonka that made the first one better. Kinda like what has happened with the recent Joker - hell you get some great actor like Depp to do it, but that will always belong to Heath. Wilder's Wonka is kinda like that - to a lesser extent.

Also, those Elfman music numbers with all the same little CG oompas... so painful.

Gene Wilder's Wonka is brilliant and could not have been equalled.

I think Depps Wonka was actually more twisted, but much less subtle

[sbessiso]

This topic has come up before and I'm just gunna state my opinion before everyone agrees with you.

I LOVED the remake. Didnt try to be the original but still stayed respectful to it as well as the source material. I thought Depp and Burton made a much more sadistic Wonka and I really liked it. Plus Burton's trademark visuals and style were everywhere (and as a big Burton fan I approved of it).

I also loved the Oompa Loompas and Elfman's songs :-/

[rage patton]

Wait... is that Gobstopper movie actually being made into a real movie? Because it looks amazing.

[Monklish]

This topic has come up before and I'm just gunna state my opinion before everyone agrees with you.

I LOVED the remake. Didnt try to be the original but still stayed respectful to it as well as the source material. I thought Depp and Burton made a much more sadistic Wonka and I really liked it. Plus Burton's trademark visuals and style were everywhere (and as a big Burton fan I approved of it).

I also loved the Oompa Loompas and Elfman's songs :-/

You're fucking ridiculous. RIDICULOUS.

[SoulDischarge]

You're fucking ridiculous. RIDICULOUS.

Yeah. I mean, I'm all for bad taste and everything, but you need to have limits.

[C DUB YA]

Liking Burton's Wonka... it's just like saying you liked Burton's Planet of the Apes. Which was the same result - pretty much forgettable film making.

[sbessiso]

I've seen it on acid......twice. :D

[PotVsKtl]

You really ought to be killed.

[Monklish]

Hehehe

[menikmati]

Burton's Wonka and Planet of the Apes were complete piles of shit. End of story.

[Mr.Nipples]

frankenweenie is still my favorite burton picture...

[shakermaker113]

has there ever been a movie remake that was better than the original?

[Gonshman]

The most recent Last House on the Left. DUH!!!


But really, I saw the Great Buck Howard today. It was entertaining, but nothing special. I like John Malkovich, and I was happy to see one of my favorite writers (Jonathan Ames) have a cameo as, what else, a writer.

[Monklish]

has there ever been a movie remake that was better than the original?

Little Shop Of Horrors.

[PotVsKtl]

The Thing.

[Gonshman]

Little Shop Of Horrors.

Was the Rick Moranis one the original? Because I liked that one a lot

[sbessiso]

Thats the remake

[Monklish]

Nope. There was one with Jack Nicholson way earlier.

[SoulDischarge]

The Fly

Also, while looking through a list of remakes on Wiki, I saw that Brett Ratner might be remaking Escape From New York. Another classic defiled and left for dead.

[sbessiso]

I think Brett left that project but i'm not sure.

He's actually working on Beverly Hills Cop IV at the moment. Yikes!

[Gonshman]

Nope. There was one with Jack Nicholson way earlier.

Really, Jack Nicholson was in Little Shop? I didn't know he could sing.

[SoulDischarge]

You're not joking, are you?

[wmgaretjax]

I'm willing to bet the first result on a google search for jack nicholson is IMDB... then you can press ctrl (or apple) + f and search for little shop of horrors...

i'm willing to bet a result in the affirmative will come up.

[Mr.Nipples]

The Thing.

yep.


speaking of remakes. i'm a fan of old joe don baker movies, especially walking tall and i'm in the middle of watching the remake starring...the rock. it's not as bad as i thought it would be, it's not great but its faithful to the original. i like shitty movies so whatever cinephags...
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king kong 1976 always bothered me more than the harryhausen kong and im not saying that negatively.

[sbessiso]

Any self-respecting MST3K fan has to be a Joe Don Baker fan as well. It's necessary

[C DUB YA]

I own Walking Tall.

[bballarl]

I watched the Grindhouse movies this weekend. They were entertaining and had numerous Lost cast members.

[BKsaysAction!]

My nephew recently was sent to an audition for the remake of Stand By Me........WHY? that movie is as old as i am. How can studios think the old one is dated enough for a remake?

[bballarl]

No, please don't ruin Stand By Me. Please leave it alone.

[shakermaker113]

I watched the Grindhouse movies this weekend. They were entertaining and had numerous Lost cast members.

they did? I never noticed that.

[tessalasset]

i saw sunshine cleaning last night - it was ok. amy adams and emily blunt (actually, the whole cast) were great in it, but it seemed a little scattered. so many different things going on that it spread so thin i stopped caring about certain plot lines.


then i saw i love you, man tonight. it was actually waaaaay funnier than i expected. paul rudd is so good at that awkward, uncomfortable, feel-bad-for-the-guy humor. lots of laugh out loud moments. i would actually recommend this one.

oh my god and then i saw the trailer for this monolith:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTNBwIAY9Zo

[C DUB YA]

Paul Rudd is da man.

[indietron]

I feel slighty less embarrassed of that fact that i really wanna see love you man. Thanks tessa :)

[tessalasset]

it was totally a throwaway choice for me tonight and i ended up loving it. one of the top ones i've seen by that group.


also seth rogen's new mall cop movie looks HORRIBLE. i didn't laugh in any part of the trailer.

[bballarl]

That's because you are humorless and ice cold.

[Monklish]

Really, Jack Nicholson was in Little Shop? I didn't know he could sing.

He doesn't play a singing role.

[BKsaysAction!]

But Nicholson has had a singing role before, in the who movie Tommy.

[sbessiso]

also seth rogen's new mall cop movie looks HORRIBLE. i didn't laugh in any part of the trailer.

Oh, thanks for reminding me!

I wanted to say the exact opposite! That movie looks incredible. It looks like it's going to be obscene, raunchy, dark, silly, all my favorite things. Plus I love Seth Rogen

[Gonshman]

But Nicholson has had a singing role before, in the who movie Tommy.

Yeah, barely. He has what, five lines as the doctor?

[BKsaysAction!]

something like that. I remember catching the movie on either TCM or AMC and going "is that Jack Nicholson? What is he doing in this movie? is he...singing?" and then his scene was over. but a role is a role, the man can do anything.

[RedThom]

Any self-respecting MST3K fan has to be a Joe Don Baker fan as well. It's necessary

Its so true. Kevin Sorbo and Dwayne Johnson should be ashamed to think they could even measure up to the likes Mitchell or The corrupt police chief in "Fletch".

It's 9:41 am, I've had 3 hours of sleep and am partially hung over... BUT because I am writing about Joe Don Baker, this day is instantly better.

[garrett222]

it was totally a throwaway choice for me tonight and i ended up loving it. one of the top ones i've seen by that group.


also seth rogen's new mall cop movie looks HORRIBLE. i didn't laugh in any part of the trailer.

I'm not sure how someone could avoid laughing in that movie...

That being said...it was reviewed in Variety with rave reviews saying that it was a mix of taxi driver and his usual comic style. Will be great!

[amyzzz]

My nephew recently was sent to an audition for the remake of Stand By Me........WHY? that movie is as old as i am. How can studios think the old one is dated enough for a remake?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[MissingPerson]

Where The Wild Things Are looks really unbearably cute, and I'm not just saying that for the Arcade Fire trailer.

I didn't have the book as a kid, but this looks so sweet I feel like I missed out badly.

[Hannahrain]

Did you live in a dirt hovel without any pants to wear or food to eat? Even so, it's no excuse. You had terrible parents.

[anti-square]

Even in my mexican school, we had the book. Jebus, MP.

[bballarl]

Where The Wild Things Are looks really unbearably cute, and I'm not just saying that for the Arcade Fire trailer.

I didn't have the book as a kid, but this looks so sweet I feel like I missed out badly.

I liked the idea of a somewhat dark movie, based on that footage that leaked a couple of years ago. Or was it last year? Anyway, cute is kind of a bummer, but more profitable.

Even in my mexican school, we had the book. Jebus, MP.

Hahahaha.

[MissingPerson]

Like The Grinch and Charlie Brown, it's kind of an American childhood thing, I think.

Over here, we're all about the racist old Enid Blyton books (I distinctly remember a story about a kitten called "Nigger") and terrifying Roald Dahl stories.

Anyway though, look at this fucker.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/scarew/where-wild-things-are-poste-1.jpg

Look at how cute that is.

AT IT!!!!

[stinkbutt]

has there ever been a movie remake that was better than the original?

Cape Fear

[MissingPerson]

I will argue, anytime and anywhere, that the American remake of The Ring is a superior film to the original.

[anti-square]

No need to argue. The Ring took all the good from Ringu and tweaked just enough to make it more satisfying.

[stinkbutt]

I'd agree but they both kind of suck

[BKsaysAction!]

The american ring is visually awesome, the story not so much, but i like Naomi Watts so it's tolerable.

[wmgaretjax]

I will argue, anytime and anywhere, that the American remake of The Ring is a superior film to the original.

This rotten peach tastes better than that moldy nectarine

[tessalasset]

just watched Little Children. really fucking weird and depressing and unsettling but great.

[tessalasset]

this scene made me want to almost throw up the whole way to work. i couldn't stop thinking about it. fucking sick.

hKb6mK1O9mg

[AlecEiffel]

I will argue, anytime and anywhere, that the American remake of The Ring is a superior film to the original.

I'd also apply this to the Grudge. Especially since both versions were done by the same director, it was like he got a second chance and a bigger budget.

[amyzzz]

I agree with The Ring being better than Ringu, and I loved The Grudge (but I never saw the Grudge original).

Also, I forgot about that pathetic pervert guy in Little Children, which is kind of silly since the 2 main people's relationship revolves around trying to keep their children safe from him.

[wmgaretjax]

the best part of Little Children were all the gnats under the street lamp.

[wmgaretjax]

http://gorillavsbear.blogspot.com/2009/03/where-wild-things-are-x-arcade-fire.html

[C DUB YA]

wow - Where the Wild things Are trailer features Arcade Fire.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40550

[MissingPerson]

Echoooooooooo...

Honestly, I only heard about the thing a few days back, and I'm already looking forward to it more than any other movie this year.

That's a really sweet take of Wake Up too, and one I ain't never heard before. I'm glad, the original is maybe a bit too Queen for the subject matter. I think it's an old version too, rather than a new take, Win's register has dipped considerably since then.

Already youtubed, damn, folk work fast.

eyKvChvO52w

[schoolofruckus]

That 1:59 just restored all the Warner Bros. pride that was beaten out of me during Watchmen. Oh my FUCK that looks great.

[MissingPerson]

And shit, it's already down from Youtube. Yeah, people do work fast.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

just watched Little Children. really fucking weird and depressing and unsettling but great.

i've got that coming from netflix this weekend...looking forward to it

Also, on monday night i watched Kubrick's 1962 version of LOLITA and liked it quite a bit. it's a very strange movie, with very interesting ways to insinuate sex and use innuendo but still get past the censors. Also, it has Peter Sellers REALLY chewing up the scenery and putting in one of the most creepy and unsettling performances I have ever seen

[chairmenmeow47]

i've got that coming from netflix this weekend...looking forward to it

Also, on monday night i watched Kubrick's 1962 version of LOLITA and liked it quite a bit. it's a very strange movie, with very interesting ways to insinuate sex and use innuendo but still get past the censors. Also, it has Peter Sellers REALLY chewing up the scenery and putting in one of the most creepy and unsettling performances I have ever seen

i LOVE lolita, evil little bitch. almost as evil as that other black & white cunt, the bad seed.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

i LOVE lolita, evil little bitch. almost as evil as that other black & white cunt, the bad seed.

yeah, that actress was really quite fantastic. i read up her and she only acted up until 1980 and retired at the age of 32

[wmgaretjax]

That 1:59 just restored all the Warner Bros. pride that was beaten out of me during Watchmen. Oh my FUCK that looks great.

I was in a meeting... now it's down... another link anyone?

[wmgaretjax]

nvm g84nC5UXbXo

looks good.

[schoolofruckus]

Shit. Not yet.....WB made quick work of those grabs. I'm guessing it'll be up in Quicktime by this weekend. Or, you know, you could watch "Ellen" today....

[wmgaretjax]

I want an HD version...

[sbessiso]

omg


it looks so MAGICAL

[amyzzz]

omg


it looks so MAGICAL
I agree. And you know what that means...

[sbessiso]

http://www.hotbodytraining.com/wp-content/pics/danger_acid.jpg

[amyzzz]

I have to admit that song during the trailer was kinda catchy.

[Young blood]

Apple trailers has the hd version.

[tessalasset]

I was getting honestly excited, like shortness of breath watching that trailer.

[PotVsKtl]

I'm suspicious of trailers with no dialog.

[MissingPerson]

Uh, it's my understanding they don't have a whole lot of dialogue to work with, right?

I have to admit that song during the trailer was kinda catchy

The Joy Parade's door is alllllllllllllways open.

3dG9ZRdw84A

[schoolofruckus]

I'm suspicious of trailers with no dialog.

I'm not. But maybe I should be:

tFk0T0eQonw

[wmgaretjax]

regardless... the film looks gorgeous.

[SFChrissy]

I saw this movie over the weekend which I thought was pretty good. Soundtrack is a good one too

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[MissingPerson]

Guy Ritchie one, right?

[indietron]

That WTWTA trailer is beyond perfect.

[MissingPerson]

The kid's little wolfy tail is really damn cute.

[C DUB YA]

rock n rolla was the best thing ritchie did since snatch

[MissingPerson]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/wherethewildthingsare/

[ivankay]

Put me down for hating RocknRolla. (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=806261&postcount=9647)

[wmgaretjax]

Rock n rolla was silly... but I'm in the minority for liking revolver... so... don't listen to me.

[PotVsKtl]

Yeah I watched Revolver the other day and was pretty surprised how much I enjoyed it. Underobserved.

[schoolofruckus]

It was an interesting and unique spin on Ritchie's usual (and usually undeviated-from) model. I don't see why it got such a bad rap.

[RedThom]

That WTWTA trailer is beyond perfect.

I agree. my heart is 4 size too big now.

[BKsaysAction!]

Agreed. The only part of the film i didn't like was the animation sequence, but either than that i was the only person out of the group of people that saw it that liked it.

[RedThom]

I just read through the credits of the trailer and realized that Where the Wild Things Are will be scored by Carter Burwell and KAREN O!?!

I can't lie. Pumped

[MissingPerson]

It's many, many flavours of awesome. Back up with the fine fellow from ArcadeFireTube.

C5ZT9aB_7cY

[BKsaysAction!]

It's many, many flavours of awesome. Back up with the fine fellow from ArcadeFireTube.

C5ZT9aB_7cY

I just watched this three times on the quicktime. I can't wait.

[bleep]

Over here, we're all about the racist old Enid Blyton books (I distinctly remember a story about a kitten called "Nigger") and terrifying Roald Dahl stories.
Fantastic Mr. Fox is the latest Roald Dahl story adapted for film. from what i've read, it'll be a stop-action animated flick directed by Wes Anderson. should come out by year's end.

[Down Rodeo]

I suppose I'll be the first to admit that I thought Knowing was pretty awesome. I know that will be far from the majority opinion on this board, but I agree with Ebert on this one (and most other films for that matter). What it comes down to is that I enjoy when a sci-fi film bases itself on an idea (determinism vs. chaos in this instance) and forms a story that examines and illuminates that idea throughout the film. Granted, there is nothing especially deep or thought-provoking in Knowing, but the fact that it kept me entertained while sparking some interesting philosophical thoughts is a worthy enough feat. I could very well be more inclined to like this film because of Ebert's strong review and because I like Alex Proyas' earlier work, but I wouldn't completely write this one off.

Don't flame me too hard, guys.

[schoolofruckus]

I can't flame you because I haven't seen it. But dissenting opinions are always welcome. Certain people see things in and about certain films that others never would, and that's what makes the world of film debate go round.

[PotVsKtl]

In case anyone saw the DVD for Let the Right One In, or was thinking about buying it, the subtitles are fucked.

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html

[whynotsmile99]

In case anyone saw the DVD for Let the Right One In, or was thinking about buying it, the subtitles are fucked.

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html


yea I saw this. Apparently they are doing another version of the dvd with proper subtitles. i havent' seen it yet, so i'm waiting

[Monklish]

Rock n rolla was silly... but I'm in the minority for liking revolver... so... don't listen to me.

Yeah I watched Revolver the other day and was pretty surprised how much I enjoyed it. Underobserved.

It was an interesting and unique spin on Ritchie's usual (and usually undeviated-from) model. I don't see why it got such a bad rap.

... Once again, you all amaze me. What the fuck is wrong with you. Jesus.

[thestripe]

I'm not. But maybe I should be:



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Hmmm

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But it does look awesome.

[BKsaysAction!]

Besides Scorsese, David Fincher and Spike Jonze are my two favorite directors. As much respect I have in David Fincher, Benjiman Button was disapointing, however I have full confidence Spike Jonze won't screw this up.

[tessalasset]

In case anyone saw the DVD for Let the Right One In, or was thinking about buying it, the subtitles are fucked.

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html

haha i read that on consumerist yesterday. why in the world they would go to the effort to make a whole new version, i have no idea. so sad.

[bballarl]

Where The Wild Things Are looks good.

[AlecEiffel]

In case anyone saw the DVD for Let the Right One In, or was thinking about buying it, the subtitles are fucked.

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html

I didn't get a chance to see this in the theater, and I wasn't aware of this problem until right now, but I watched the dvd both subtitled and dubbed. the dubbing and the subtitles are completley different from each other, and now seeing this side by side comparisson it seems like the dubbing is a reading of the original subtitles.

[BKsaysAction!]

What are the differences?

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Besides Scorsese, David Fincher and Spike Jonze are my two favorite directors. As much respect I have in David Fincher, Benjiman Button was disapointing, however I have full confidence Spike Jonze won't screw this up.

i like to tyhink that jonze hasn't done enough movies to fuck up yet :)

That said, i enjoyed BB immensely, although I still think that Panic Room is Fincher's masterpiece

[Down Rodeo]

Panic Room? That's a weird statement.

[amyzzz]

I'm starting to get really excited for WtWTA. Finding good movies to see with my kids is incredibly difficult these days. I get so sick of animation.

(I have to admit I am going to grit my teeth and take my kids to see the new Terminator movie--they love the series of movie so much; I'll just have to cover their eyes for the really violent stuff).

[schoolofruckus]

Panic Room? That's a weird statement.

Yeah, remember that whole thing about dissenting opinions? I take it all back.

Panic Room is fine for what it is, but what it is, isn't much. And there's no possible way that it's better than Fight Club, Se7en, or Zodiac.

[schoolofruckus]

I've seen a couple decent new movies recently.

Last weekend, I rented Alexander the Last from IFC on-demand. It's one of the newest outings from the increasingly-infamous mumblecore mafia - this entry being directed by Joe Swanberg. I hadn't seen any of his previous films (LOL, Kissing on the Mouth, Hannah Takes the Stairs, or Nights and Weekends), but being a general fan of the genre and its ideals in general (and liking Quiet City and Mutual Appreciation, specifically), I figured I'd give this one a spin.

To be honest, it wasn't great. It was an interesting story - a young actress, married to a musician on tour, begins to fall for her costar in a small stage production, while at the same time trying to set him up with her sister - and the lead actress (Jess Weixler, who some will recognize as the girl with the fanged vagina from Teeth) is terrific. She's probably the most "accomplished" actress to ever be in one of these mumblecore films, and she's definitely one of the most talented. There are definitely points where this film drags, more than most mumblecore films even (and it's definitely an accomplishment when the entire film is only 72 minutes long). But it's worth a shot if you like the genre.

I should point out that I'm not being paid to use the word "mumblecore" here, despite my many repeats of the term in the above paragraphs. It's just that it's a film style with a very specific aesthetic, and unless we're talking a standout example of it (like the visually stunning Quiet City), then they kind of have to be judged on those terms alone.


Anyway, last night I saw Sin Nombre, and I'm going to declare it the first excellent film of 2009, as well as one of the very best films to come out of Latin America this decade. I knew nothing about the film beyond having seen the trailer a long time ago, so I'm going to excuse those of you who want to walk in cold (as I did) and discover it for yourselves. If you have any faith in my taste, just trust me on this one and go check it out.



For those who need more, the film is basically about the intersection of fate between a pair of young Mexican gang members, and a small family of Honduran immigrants, who find themselves on the same train heading towards the US border. It's beautiful, tragic, thrilling, and touching in equal measures, and it packed an epic story into a taut hour and a half, in a way that somehow reminded me of The Fountain.

I loved damn near everything about this film. The one complaint I have is something I can't talk about without ruining the film, but it certainly didn't ruin it for me.

[algunz]

I just saw that Sean Penn has been cast for the new Three Stooges . . . and Jim Carrey and they're looking at Benicio del Torro.

I'm not sure what I feel about this.

[sbessiso]

Just read that too. This has been a rumor for so fucking long, I never thought it was gunna ever actually happen. Has Penn done comedy? I cant think of anything...

[algunz]

Spiccoli . . . and Shanghai Surprise was pretty fucking funny. :thu

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Yeah, remember that whole thing about dissenting opinions? I take it all back.

Panic Room is fine for what it is, but what it is, isn't much. And there's no possible way that it's better than Fight Club, Se7en, or Zodiac.

I love all of Fincher's films. But at that point in his career, i just feel like everything was leading up to Panic Room in terms of how he was developing himself as a very visual and technical director, and building stories from a purely visceral level. As a thriller, it's impeccable, and as far as what Fincher was doing with his camerawork, it was the apex of that part of his career.

Zodiak was the beginning of a totally different type of film making for Fincher.

this is all my own opinion of the man's career, of course. i also find Alien 3 as EQUALLY as good as BOTH ALIEN AND ALIENS (with the exception of some unfortunate blue screen shots of the puppet in a few scenes) so my opinion is often argued

[RedThom]

Zodiak was the beginning of a totally different type of film making for Fincher.

this is all my own opinion of the man's career, of course. i also find Alien 3 as EQUALLY as good as BOTH ALIEN AND ALIENS (with the exception of some unfortunate blue screen shots of the puppet in a few scenes) so my opinion is often argued

Eastman Zodiak?


Hold on there bud, Alien 3 is a good follow up yes... if we're talking the Directors cut (which not only was 45 minutes longer but just felt more Fincher like)

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Eastman Zodiak?


Hold on there bud, Alien 3 is a good follow up yes... if we're talking the Directors cut (which not only was 45 minutes longer but just felt more Fincher like)

yes, i enjoy the "directors cut" very much, even though it's technically not a directors cut because Fincher had nothing to do with piecing it back together

I have drenched myself in the Alien Quadrilogy boxset, which has more information about film than i have ever thought I would want to know

As far as my opinions of Fincher and his film career, i could go into great detail on a film by film basis as i've thought about it and analyzed it a great deal...but I'll save it unless people are really interested

[stinkbutt]

Sam Raimi's new one looks awful

[PotVsKtl]

Sam Raimi's new one looks awful

Watch this and then say that again.

http://my.spill.com/video/video/show?id=947994%3AVideo%3A440647

[stinkbutt]

That did look pretty entertaining, the trailer I saw didn't had a different feel than that scene and just kinda made it look cheesy.

[schoolofruckus]

I love all of Fincher's films. But at that point in his career, i just feel like everything was leading up to Panic Room in terms of how he was developing himself as a very visual and technical director, and building stories from a purely visceral level. As a thriller, it's impeccable, and as far as what Fincher was doing with his camerawork, it was the apex of that part of his career.

Zodiak was the beginning of a totally different type of film making for Fincher.

this is all my own opinion of the man's career, of course. i also find Alien 3 as EQUALLY as good as BOTH ALIEN AND ALIENS (with the exception of some unfortunate blue screen shots of the puppet in a few scenes) so my opinion is often argued

You really think Panic Room was a step UP the mountainside? Even in terms of the visuals and photography, there's no way it was superior to Fight Club - one of the most viscerally arousing films of all time. Unless your argument is that, since it had an unquestionably weaker script, that it's somehow more impressive from that specific standpoint...but I fail to see why you would penalize a visually stunning film with stronger substance, and reward one in which the same technical tricks were used as merely an end unto themselves.

yes, i enjoy the "directors cut" very much, even though it's technically not a directors cut because Fincher had nothing to do with piecing it back together

I have drenched myself in the Alien Quadrilogy boxset, which has more information about film than i have ever thought I would want to know

As far as my opinions of Fincher and his film career, i could go into great detail on a film by film basis as i've thought about it and analyzed it a great deal...but I'll save it unless people are really interested

Alright, color me interested. I want to hear it all.

[PotVsKtl]

Just watch the Quadrilogy boxset. There's about 300 hours of material on it.

[BKsaysAction!]

Watch this and then say that again.

http://my.spill.com/video/video/show?id=947994%3AVideo%3A440647

Yeah that looks like a Raimi movie. He's got a thing for curses and the occult and angry old witches.

[AlecEiffel]

Angry old, disgusting, croney witches aren't used in nearly enough movies.

[C DUB YA]

I did a double-feature last night:

So I noticed Battlefield Earth was coming on Stars last night at 11:30. So, laughing at the thought, my wife and I quickly put in our Netflix movie (Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist) and then made it a double feature with the KING of bad films. I really forgot how bad Battlefield Earth actually was. Everything about it is just so unwatchable. It's not even so bad it's good - just plain painful.

And as far as Nick and Nora's - what a terrible movie. Full of poser cliches and telegraphed scripting. Michael Cera is officially a one trick pony. I'm going to be hard on him now - because he seems to becoming a dick as well. It will ruin him, as he keeps doing his same George Michael/Bleeker/Nick/soon to be caveman, indie slacker schtick to its now, usual worthless act.

There is the biggest plot flaw that makes the movie horrible. I won't give it away.

[sbessiso]

Sam Raimi's new one looks awful

Absolutely not. I'm so excited for that movie it's not even funny. I only wish it were a Hard R but I think it's PG-13

[RedThom]

I only wish it were a Hard R but I think it's PG-13

I believe you are wrong

[amyzzz]

Are you hoping for Evil Dead-esque shenanigans, Salah?

[sbessiso]

Are you hoping for Evil Dead-esque shenanigans, Salah?

Watch the trailer. It pretty much promises us to expect such things

[stinkbutt]

Absolutely not. I'm so excited for that movie it's not even funny. I only wish it were a Hard R but I think it's PG-13

Did you not read literally 2 posts lower?

[sbessiso]

What?

[stinkbutt]

My post that you had quoted I took back once I seen the link Pot posted which was a actual clip of the film not that terrible trailer only 2 posts below my original post.

[sbessiso]

Ohh

I read that but I didnt think your overall feeling to the movie had changed. Whatever! I love Sam Raimi, it's soo good to have him give Spiderman a rest. That shit consumed him for far too long

[stinkbutt]

Well I still am a bit skeptical everytime I see a little old hag in a movie all that pops into mind is

http://www.impawards.com/1996/posters/stephen_kings_thinner.jpg

[AlecEiffel]

Ohh

I read that but I didnt think your overall feeling to the movie had changed. Whatever! I love Sam Raimi, it's soo good to have him give Spiderman a rest. That shit consumed him for far too long

Don't get too excited, he's hard at work on Spider-Man 4 preproduction.

[sbessiso]

Bleh, I know. I purposely overlook that.

For the record, I enjoyed SP, LOVED SP2 and well, you guys saw SP3

[stinkbutt]

That wasn't his fault though and I'm sure Spider-Man 4 will be good since he actually has freedom to do what he wants again.

[sbessiso]

What do you mean exactly? Ohh yeah didn't they force him to use the Venom character even though he didn't want to? That shit was so weak. I did like parts of 3 but it was such a mess and wayy too bloated.

[amyzzz]

I liked the first Spiderman, but the 2nd was overly sentimental and annoying (his gf is a total shit for leaving that guy at the altar, WTF bitch??), and the 3rd was just stupid.

[AlecEiffel]

It really seems like he's lost some passion for that franchise. I get it, the studio forced him to use a character he hated. You know what? If he wanted control the studio wasn't willing to give him he could have walked. Or he could have done the professional thing and made the best movie he was capable of making, which he clearly did not. 258 million dollars and this is what he comes up with? There is just no excuse.
I love the first two Spider-Man movies, but at this point I really wish Marvel would just buy the property back from Columbia and make further installments in house. I'd love to see him as part of this Marvel Universe film experiment, anyway.

[C DUB YA]

That wasn't his fault though and I'm sure Spider-Man 4 will be good since he actually has freedom to do what he wants again.

That's assuming an awful lot.

[Down Rodeo]

Anyway, last night I saw Sin Nombre, and I'm going to declare it the first excellent film of 2009, as well as one of the very best films to come out of Latin America this decade. I knew nothing about the film beyond having seen the trailer a long time ago, so I'm going to excuse those of you who want to walk in cold (as I did) and discover it for yourselves. If you have any faith in my taste, just trust me on this one and go check it out.


Yes...I remember seeing some brief info on this film and being intrigued. Now that I've read your review, I'm damn excited to see it.

On another note, has anyone here seen The Class? I'm wondering if I should bother seeing it in the theater while I have the chance or waiting for Netflix.

[iv3rdawG]

I saw The Class back in November. It's a great film. Doesn't really compare to 2007's Palme d'Or winner though, 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days. I always like seeing movies in theaters instead of on DVD but The Class doesn't really seem like one that would benefit that much from seeing it in theaters.

[bobert]

In case anyone saw the DVD for Let the Right One In, or was thinking about buying it, the subtitles are fucked.

http://iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html

Damn, that's really fucking annoying. The last thing American audiences need is another reason to be distrustful of subtitled movies.

[Monklish]

I'm confused. I just heard them talking about Let The Right One In on Stern (not the first time I'd heard of it, naturally) and they all said they'd watched a dubbed copy. No subs at all. Que?

[bobert]

I'm confused. I just heard them talking about Let The Right One In on Stern (not the first time I'd heard of it, naturally) and they all said they'd watched a dubbed copy. No subs at all. Que?

I'd rented the film on blue-ray and it automatically started playing the dubbed version (which was terrible as always.) I had to stop the movie and put the language on Swedish and the subtitles on English. I imagine most people just don't bother and watch the dubbed version. Sad.

[Mr.Nipples]

i'm watching battlefield earth.

[MissingPerson]

I think Airplane! might be the perfect comedy film.

"Oh my stomach - I haven't felt this awful since I saw that Ronald Reagan film."

[tessalasset]

I'd rented the film on blue-ray and it automatically started playing the dubbed version (which was terrible as always.) I had to stop the movie and put the language on Swedish and the subtitles on English. I imagine most people just don't bother and watch the dubbed version. Sad.

someone was saying the dubbed version is closer to the theatrical english subtitles version.


ps nice avatar!

[C DUB YA]

i'm watching battlefield earth.

I got through some of it last night. Beyond what I thought of it when I first saw it... in terms of how bad.

[AlecEiffel]

someone was saying the dubbed version is closer to the theatrical english subtitles version.


That was me, and it is. The first time I watched it I went ahead and put it in Swedish with English subtitles, the second time I watched it dubbed into English, but also used the subtitles and noticed they were completely different. When Pot put up that link to the site that compared the theatrical subtitles to the DVD subtitles I noticed that the English dubbing was the same as the theatrical subs.

[chairmenmeow47]

I think Airplane! might be the perfect comedy film.

"Oh my stomach - I haven't felt this awful since I saw that Ronald Reagan film."

they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into! i say, LET 'EM CRASH!

http://ivy.aholic.us/gallery/d/667685-3/051.jpg

[atom heart]

As for Marvel buying back Spidey, not sure, but this may prove promising:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/27/marvel-to-launch-writers-program/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/27/marvel-to-launch-writers-program/)

[AlecEiffel]

As for Marvel buying back Spidey, not sure, but this may prove promising:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/27/marvel-to-launch-writers-program/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/27/marvel-to-launch-writers-program/)

This is a great idea. If these movies are all going to co-exist within the same universe (which, as a life long fan of marvel comics I find incredibly exciting) there is no better way to make sure that they maintain continuity and keep characters..um..in character than having all the movies written by the same team. I hope some actual comic-book writers are going to end up involved with this.

[indietron]

Im kinda confused about all this controversy concerning let the right one in. If I put the disc in and just press play, will it have the wrong subtitles? Can I change it on the DVD to make the subtitles correct, or do i need to wait to buy it until they release the correct version? Thank you.

[indietron]

Also, I watched My Left Foot today. Great great great movie. Daniel Day Lewis was perfect. Every time I watch him I am amazed at how great a actor he is.

[samiksha]

Can I change it on the DVD to make the subtitles correct

no.

[sbessiso]

ummmmm YES PLEASE

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh425/sbessiso/ShoWest_2009_4.jpg?t=1238419759

[Gonshman]

ummmmm YES PLEASE

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh425/sbessiso/ShoWest_2009_4.jpg?t=1238419759

I thought Sacha Baron Cohen was playing Sherlock Holmes...

[sbessiso]

Thats another movie

[PotVsKtl]

Richard Linklater is making Dazed & Confused 2.

[AlecEiffel]

Is there any more info than that yet? I'll wait to hear what he's come up with, but that sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen.

[PotVsKtl]

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/03/richard-linklat.html

The story follows a group of lost boys and girls during their first weekend of college in 1980. The untitled project isn't literally spiritual or a sequel, strictly speaking -- sadly, none of the characters from the first movie will be featured in this one. But, like Dazed, it attempts to capture an iconic and infinitely confusing moment in a person's life by following an ensemble of different characters through a short period of time. Much of the action takes place among the members of a college baseball team.

[schoolofruckus]

Considering how he handled the last sequel he made, I'd say this is more something to be excited about than feared.

[sbessiso]

Before Sunset?

[schoolofruckus]

I saw Nuri Bilge Ceylan's Three Monkeys last night. It was terrific. It's more plot-driven than Ceylan's last film, Climates, which is the only one I've seen - but it still retains his affinity for expansive photography and expressive silences. The story is a meditation on class exploitation and the destruction of family, surrounding a politician's bribe to get his driver to serve a jail sentence on his behalf. It's one of the most gorgeously shot films I've seen in quite some time, expressive, haunting, and heavily filtered in a way that would evoke a nod of approval from Wong Kar-Wai and Chris Doyle.

Those of you in Los Angeles and New York better act fast; the film's on a limited run due to its distributor (New Yorker Films) going bankrupt. It's playing at the Nuart as we speak.

[schoolofruckus]

Before Sunset?

Yes. That one is obviously a sequel to Before Sunrise, as opposed to the reported new take on Dazed. But it was one of the best sequels ever made.

[Monklish]

Richard Linklater is making Dazed & Confused 2.

The first one sucked. This is not promising.

[PotVsKtl]

Hater.

[Young blood]

part 2? was there unfinished business in part 1?

[PotVsKtl]

Pretty sure he's just using the name for funding.

[schoolofruckus]

I also watched The Beach with Jennie this past weekend. It was a little schizo, thematically, and definitely something of a vanity project for old Leo - not to mention one of his weaker performances, rife with ineffective overemoting (as opposed to the kind of effective overemoting he employed in Revolutionary Road). But I thought it was pretty good nevertheless. It had some interesting ideas, and enough Danny Boyle energy to be enjoyable.

[chairmenmeow47]

i wonder if any real life influences of the new dazed & confused will wait 10 years to sue on this one too.

[Monklish]

I also watched The Beach with Jennie this past weekend. It was a little schizo, thematically, and definitely something of a vanity project for old Leo - not to mention one of his weaker performances, rife with ineffective overemoting (as opposed to the kind of effective overemoting he employed in Revolutionary Road). But I thought it was pretty good nevertheless. It had some interesting ideas, and enough Danny Boyle energy to be enjoyable.

I love the parts of The Beach that just deal with their idyllic little colony on that island. Until it gets all irritating with Leo going nuts and shit, that part of the movie makes me intensely happy for some reason.

[tessalasset]

Yes. That one is obviously a sequel to Before Sunrise, as opposed to the reported new take on Dazed. But it was one of the best sequels ever made.completely agree. loved loved loved.



and like ten years later... i finally saw Thirteen and LOVED it. five-starred it on netflix. hardwicke's handheld style worked waaaaayyyyyy better in this than it did in twilight. just thinking about the scene where they first get into a serious screaming match in the living room and the room keeps teeter-tottering up and down... so trippy.

[tessalasset]

starting at about 3:50 here

nWeR7o6_irk

[bballarl]

Considering how he handled the last sequel he made, I'd say this is more something to be excited about than feared.

I hope you are right.

[BKsaysAction!]

completely agree. loved loved loved.



and like ten years later... i finally saw Thirteen and LOVED it. five-starred it on netflix. hardwicke's handheld style worked waaaaayyyyyy better in this than it did in twilight. just thinking about the scene where they first get into a serious screaming match in the living room and the room keeps teeter-tottering up and down... so trippy.

Really? Really? I could not stand that movie at all. Trying to dramatise overdramatic 13 year old girls is a bit redundant in my book and fucking annoying.

[BKsaysAction!]

I also watched The Beach with Jennie this past weekend. It was a little schizo, thematically, and definitely something of a vanity project for old Leo - not to mention one of his weaker performances, rife with ineffective overemoting (as opposed to the kind of effective overemoting he employed in Revolutionary Road). But I thought it was pretty good nevertheless. It had some interesting ideas, and enough Danny Boyle energy to be enjoyable.

The Beach is Danny Boyle's least favorite movie he made, mostly because it was his first major studio film and as usual the studio wanted it their way so they tried to change things. For instance the movie was supposed to star Ewin Mcgregor but the studio wanted a bigger name so they went with Dicaprio and so fourth. All that aside though for a tug of war with the studios it still came out pretty good. I doubt they'll ever question his ideas for films ever again after the last academy awards.

[amyzzz]

Thirteen is an outstanding film, but so terrifying. The movie really captures how delicate that age is, how a child could go either way at that age depending on their friends and relationships.

[wmgaretjax]

Thirteen is an outstanding film, but so terrifying. The movie really captures how delicate that age is, how a child could go either way at that age depending on their friends and relationships.

You mean depending on their incompetent parents?

[algunz]

I love the parts of The Beach that just deal with their idyllic little colony on that island. Until it gets all irritating with Leo going nuts and shit, that part of the movie makes me intensely happy for some reason.

That whole video game crap was annoying, and they completely removed my favorite character.


I'm a big Linklater fan. I'm among a small few that will actually admit to loving Slacker. I have hopes for D & C 2. Those are the types of movies he enjoys making.

[HowToDisappear]

You mean depending on their incompetent parents?

Exactly.