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J~$$$
04-12-2007, 07:47 PM
Yummy. Thats the greatest thing I have seen in years.
tessalasset
04-13-2007, 12:26 AM
Tonight, I finally got around to seeing "Black Snake Moan". It was really good....not quite as great as "Hustle & Flow", but one of the better movies I've seen lately. You know the drill: Christina Ricci plays a nympho, and Samuel L. Jackson plays a recently-divorced bluesman who aims to cure her of her disease. The blues music in this film is fantastic, the acting is solid all around....I like very much.whoa, gabe. are you ok? are you getting tired, buddy?
corbo
04-14-2007, 12:14 PM
aqua teen hunger force was hilarious.
the opening song kicked ass.
altho it bothered me that i couldnt understand what the robot was saying at times. captions wouldve helped.
corbo
04-14-2007, 12:19 PM
*Sighs* its times like these i wish i still smoked pot. ATHF wouldve been 3 times funnier under the influence! ^_^
schoolofruckus
04-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Aaaaaaand we're back.
First things first - last night, Jennie and I watched "Lost Highway". I loved it. The DVD transfer was atrocious - possibly the worst looking movie I've ever seen on there, which is stunning compared to Lynch's other films - but the movie itself was excellent. Evil and twisted as hell, making sense only in the barest of ways....but undeniably fun.
Secondly - the Cannes Film Festival 2007 line-up has been unveiled. (http://daily.greencine.com/archives/003585.html) And it's a fucking doozy.
Anyway, the lineup. The buzz was in tune: Wong Kar-wai's My Blueberry Nights will indeed open the Cannes Film Festival (May 16 through 27).
Fatih Akin's Auf der anderen Seite.
Catherine Breillat's Une Vieille Maitresse.
Joel and Ethan Coen's No Country for Old Men.
Abel Ferrara's Go Go Tales.
David Fincher's Zodiac.
James Gray's We Own the Night.
Christophe Honore's Les Chansons d'amour.
Naomi Kawase's Mogari No Mori.
Kim Ki-duk's Breath.
Emir Kusturica's Promise Me This.
Lee Chang-Dong's Milyang (Secret Sunshine).
Cristian Mungiu's 4 Months, 3 Weeks And 2 Days.
Raphael Nadjari's Tehilim.
Vincent Paronnaud and Marjane Satrapi's Persepolis.
Carlos Reygadas's Luz silenciosa (Silent Light).
Gus Van Sant's Paranoid Park.
Julian Schnabel's Le Scaphandre et le papillon (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly).
Ulrich Seidl's Import/Export.
Aleksandr Sokurov's Alexandra.
Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof.
Béla Tarr's The Man from London.
Andrey Zvyagintsev's Izgnanie (The Banishment).
And Denys Arcand's L'Âge des ténèbres will wrap the festivities.
Screening out of competition: Michael Moore's Sicko, Steven Soderbergh's Ocean's Thirteen and Michael Winterbottom's A Mighty Heart.
I would love to go to this.
mob roulette
04-19-2007, 11:40 AM
Aaaaaaand we're back.
First things first - last night, Jennie and I watched "Lost Highway". I loved it. The DVD transfer was atrocious - possibly the worst looking movie I've ever seen on there, which is stunning compared to Lynch's other films - but the movie itself was excellent. Evil and twisted as hell, making sense only in the barest of ways....but undeniably fun.
i remember seeing this in theatres back in the day while high on mushrooms and hash and being freaked the fuck out by robert blake. esp. that part where he's got the phone and he's like "i'm there right now. call me." made me want to jump out of my fucking seat. great film though. i think this marks the point where lynch saw his left turn and just went for it. nothing he's done since has made a lick of sense. at least not in the concious mind anyway.
thx for the cannes info yo. looks sweet.
amyzzz
04-19-2007, 11:42 AM
i remember seeing this in theatres back in the day while high on mushrooms and hash and being freaked the fuck out by robert blake. esp. that part where he's got the phone and he's like "i'm there right now. call me." made me want to jump out of my fucking seat. great film though. i think this marks the point where lynch saw his left turn and just went for it. nothing he's done since has made a lick of sense. at least not in the concious mind anyway.
thx for the cannes info yo. looks sweet.
Yes. I could believe he killed his wife (Robert Blake I mean). He's fucking creepy as all hell. I loooooooove Lost Highway.
mob roulette
04-19-2007, 11:48 AM
Yes. I could believe he killed his wife (Robert Blake I mean). He's fucking creepy as all hell. I loooooooove Lost Highway.
In Cold Blood too. Mesmerizing.
wmgaretjax
04-19-2007, 11:48 AM
Gabe you forgot to bold these ones:
Catherine Breillat's Une Vieille Maitresse.
Kim Ki-duk's Breath.
Emir Kusturica's Promise Me This.
Aleksandr Sokurov's Alexandra.
Béla Tarr's The Man from London.
Bela Tarr is the greatest living director. I'm so excited to see this.
mob roulette
04-19-2007, 11:51 AM
Kim Ki-duk's Breath.
Aleksandr Sokurov's Alexandra.
These look funny to me. Like if you read them in terms of the possessive. Quentin Tarantino's Rolodex. Francis Ford Coppola's Tax Return. Funny.
schoolofruckus
04-19-2007, 11:54 AM
Gabe you forgot to bold these ones:
Catherine Breillat's Une Vieille Maitresse.
Kim Ki-duk's Breath.
Emir Kusturica's Promise Me This.
Aleksandr Sokurov's Alexandra.
Béla Tarr's The Man from London.
Bela Tarr is the greatest living director. I'm so excited to see this.
I've never seen any films by any of them. I saw part of a Kim Ki-duk movie (The Island? I don't know) and I wasn't impressed, but that doesn't mean anything because I never finished it. I guess this means I need to seek out some Bela Tarr soon.
bug on your lip
04-19-2007, 11:58 AM
say "Bela Tarr" fast 5 times in a row & it sounds like you just came back from the dentist
wmgaretjax
04-19-2007, 12:00 PM
I've never seen any films by any of them. I saw part of a Kim Ki-duk movie (The Island? I don't know) and I wasn't impressed, but that doesn't mean anything because I never finished it. I guess this means I need to seek out some Bela Tarr soon.
Here's some recommends:
Breillat - Fat Girl
Ki-Duk - 3-Iron
Kusturica - Underground
Sokurov - Mother and Son, Russian Arc
Bela Tarr - Werckmeister Harmonies (best film since 2000 in my opinion), Satantango, Damnation
schoolofruckus
04-19-2007, 12:00 PM
Also, I forgot to include a couple other ones that are playing:
Harmony Korine's "Mister Lonely"
"U2: 3D" - Pretty self-explanatory. It's a concert doc from the "Vertigo" tour.
wmgaretjax
04-19-2007, 12:07 PM
Also, I forgot to include a couple other ones that are playing:
Harmony Korine's "Mister Lonely"
"U2: 3D" - Pretty self-explanatory. It's a concert doc from the "Vertigo" tour.
fucking hell! The new korine! man... I wish I could go.
mob roulette
04-19-2007, 12:09 PM
Harmony Korine's "Mister Lonely"
this is supposed to be pretty good.
wmgaretjax
04-19-2007, 12:11 PM
this is supposed to be pretty good.
as far as I know it hasn't been screened yet. no trailer either.
some stills though. (http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/009172.html)
mob roulette
04-19-2007, 12:14 PM
i just meant script wise, word on the street, etc. those stills look pretty dope though.
schoolofruckus
04-19-2007, 05:32 PM
wmgaretjx - Give me a good Bela Tarr film to start on.
wmgaretjax
04-19-2007, 06:04 PM
just so you know, I listed a bunch of suggestions on the previous page.
Werckmeister Harmonies is the one to go with. My favorite film of this decade so far. If you can (and have an all region DVD player) go with the Artificial Eye transfer, it's MUCH superior to the Facets one (fuck facets, I hate them).
His masterpiece is Satantango which has not been released on region 1 yet, I was lucky enough to see it in 35mm last year up here in Seattle. See it if you get the chance. Damnation is very good as well.
Just so you know what you are getting into, this is definitely eastern european cinema. So if you enjoy Sokurov, Kieslowski, and Tarkovsky etc., this will be right up your alley.
mountmccabe
04-19-2007, 06:58 PM
This makes me quite interested in seeing these films by this Tarr guy.
bballarl
04-19-2007, 07:03 PM
I've been watching Coffee and Cigarettes. Really enjoyable thus far.
Jenniehoo
04-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Shut up.
Jenniehoo
04-19-2007, 07:06 PM
Not really.
Jenniehoo
04-19-2007, 07:06 PM
Well, maybe.
bballarl
04-19-2007, 07:10 PM
Hey Hoo.
Jenniehoo
04-19-2007, 07:15 PM
I'll be seeing you soon.
bballarl
04-19-2007, 07:17 PM
I'll be ready. I have been creating the best shank ever, from the foil that surrounds Toblerone bars.
theburiedlife
04-22-2007, 01:51 PM
good news?
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=523&id=536452007
Wait wait wait, sick boy isn't listed in there, and mother superior? Oh how i miss that movie.
J~$$$
04-23-2007, 01:40 PM
Hot Fuzz = A-
schoolofruckus
04-23-2007, 01:53 PM
Seriously. All of you guys, get off your asses and go see "Hot Fuzz". It only made $5 million-ish this weekend....it is so, so, so much better than that.
J~$$$
04-23-2007, 02:00 PM
Im going to go see it again. I rarely see movies twice in the theaters, but with Hot Fuzz its a must.
mob roulette
04-23-2007, 03:15 PM
wow. okay. specifically why though? in complete sentences please.
J~$$$
04-23-2007, 03:19 PM
It didnt have any black people in it.
mob roulette
04-23-2007, 03:23 PM
+3. well done. gabe?
J~$$$
04-23-2007, 03:24 PM
go back 2 pages.
thefunkylama
04-23-2007, 03:26 PM
Thanks, guys. As if my week weren't busy enough, now I gotta go watch this movie.... give a girl a break!
KungFuJoe
04-23-2007, 03:29 PM
I agree about Hot Fuzz!!
I mean really?? it couldn't beat out Disturbia this past weekend?!? The movie is freakin' hilarious!!
It's really sad to see what movies are raking in the dough these days.
schoolofruckus
04-23-2007, 04:35 PM
I agree about Hot Fuzz!!
I mean really?? it couldn't beat out Disturbia this past weekend?!? The movie is freakin' hilarious!!
It's really sad to see what movies are raking in the dough these days.
It really is.
Mob, even though I wrote it a couple weeks ago, I will basically repeat it here: "Hot Fuzz" is the most straight-up entertaining movie I've seen in years. It's simultaneously a parody and an exemplary example of American bad-ass cop action movies; even though there are plenty of spoof moments where they appear to be ripping on the likes of "Bad Boys" and "Point Break", there is also enough skill in the action scenes to indicate that the director/writers have plenty of affection for the genre. Easily as funny as "Shaun of the Dead", and it works for all the same reasons.
atom heart
04-23-2007, 04:44 PM
Hot Fuzz was world class entertainment, no doubt. The supermarket shootout was one of the best movie moments ever. You people better not let it slip away like Shaun of the Dead did, especially since I've seen the trailer several thousand times in the last month.
mob roulette
04-23-2007, 04:59 PM
okay thank you. i will go tonight.
theburiedlife
04-23-2007, 06:11 PM
My favorite part involved the steeple. :)
roberto73
04-24-2007, 05:06 PM
Roger Ebert update
This was in the Chicago Sun-Times today. I thought some of you movie fans might be as interested in it as I was.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/insomniacmonty/ebert-4.jpg
My Ninth Annual Overlooked Film Festival opens Wednesday night at the University of Illinois at Urbana, and Chaz and I will be in attendance.
This year I won’t be speaking, however, as I await another surgery.
I have received a lot of advice that I should not attend the festival. I’m told that paparazzi will take unflattering pictures, people will be unkind, etc.
Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn. As a journalist I can take it as well as dish it out.
So let’s talk turkey. What will I look like? To paraphrase a line from “Raging Bull,” I ain’t a pretty boy no more. (Not that I ever was. The original appeal of “Siskel & Ebert” was that we didn’t look like we belonged on TV.)
What happened was, cancer of the salivary gland spread to my right lower jaw. A segment of the mandible was removed. Two operations to replace the missing segment were unsuccessful, both leading to unanticipated bleeding.
A tracheostomy was necessary so, for the time being, I cannot speak. I make do with written notes and a lot of hand waving and eye-rolling. The doctors now plan an approach that does not involve the risk of unplanned bleeding. If all goes well, my speech will be restored.
So when I turn up in Urbana, I will be wearing a gauze bandage around my neck, and my mouth will be seen to droop. So it goes.
Won’t be hiding illness
I was told photos of me in this condition would attract the gossip papers. So what?
I have been very sick, am getting better and this is how it looks. I still have my brain and my typing fingers.
Although months in bed after the bleeding episodes caused a lack of strength and coordination, the Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago restored my ability to walk on my own, climb stairs, etc.
I no longer use a walker much and the wheelchair is more for occasional speed and comfort than need. Just today we went for a long stroll in Lincoln Park.
We spend too much time hiding illness. There is an assumption that I must always look the same. I hope to look better than I look now. But I’m not going to miss my festival.
Comfiest seat in the house
Why do I want to go? Above all, to see the movies. Then to meet old friends and great directors and personally thank all the loyal audience members who continue to support the festival.
At least, not being able to speak, I am spared the need to explain why every film is “overlooked,” or why I wrote “Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.”
Being sick is no fun. But you can have fun while you’re sick. I wouldn’t miss the festival for anything!
P.S. to gossip rags: I have some back pain, and to make it easier for me to sit through screenings, the festival has installed my very own La-Z-Boy chair.
Photos of me in the chair should be captioned “La-Z-Critic.”
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/insomniacmonty/ebert2.jpg
Rob again. I'm not one to get all misty-eyed about stories of people overcoming illness and adversity, but this one really got to me. Even though I haven't always agreed with his reviews, I've always admired Ebert for his thoughtfulness, and anymore he seems like the epitome of class and courage. Here's hoping he continues to recover.
amyzzz
04-24-2007, 07:59 PM
Wow. Good for him. That sounds like a really horrible cancer.
mob roulette
04-24-2007, 08:01 PM
That's really brave. Props.
Mr.Nipples
04-24-2007, 08:27 PM
i wonder if vincent gallo feels like an asshole...
SojuGorae
04-24-2007, 09:03 PM
I read of his illness but didn't know it was that serious.
roberto73
04-24-2007, 09:07 PM
I read of his illness but didn't know it was that serious.
Same here. The photos came as a huge shock.
Courtney
05-03-2007, 10:45 AM
For anyone in Los Angeles:
The first part of the summer schedule for Cinespia's Hollywood Forever Cemetery Screenings (http://www.cemeteryscreenings.com/) just came out today. This along with the Hollywood Bowl are two of my favorite summertime Los Angeles activities. Yay!
5/19 The Player
5/26 Vertigo
6/2 Gilda
6/9 Harold and Maude
I have never seen Gilda, but the other three are definitely in my favorite movies of all time.
schoolofruckus
05-03-2007, 10:49 AM
That would probably be as good an opportunity as any for me to finally watch "Vertigo".
I've been neglecting this thread lately because I haven't seen any movies in a while. I'll get back into it this weekend, I would imagine.
PotVsKtl
05-03-2007, 10:54 AM
I watched The Marriage of Maria Braun last night. I think I need to know more about German history to appreciate Fassbinder. Luckily I was able to appreciate Hanna Schygulla without any book learning. And yes, don't miss Vertigo on the big screen.
mob roulette
05-03-2007, 01:41 PM
opinions (http://www.branduponthebrain.com/) please.
also vertigo on silver? agree with pot. you guys should go. really.
thelastgreatman
05-03-2007, 01:49 PM
For anyone in Los Angeles:
The first part of the summer schedule for Cinespia's Hollywood Forever Cemetery Screenings (http://www.cemeteryscreenings.com/) just came out today. This along with the Hollywood Bowl are two of my favorite summertime Los Angeles activities. Yay!
5/19 The Player
5/26 Vertigo
6/2 Gilda
6/9 Harold and Maude
I have never seen Gilda, but the other three are definitely in my favorite movies of all time.
Ah, The Player. Such a great flick. Such another perfect example of the immutable law that the only way to avoid the annoying kiss of death that is Tim Robbins is to cast him as someone either despicably toolish and/or dumber than a wet bag of monkey shit. Every time I watch Rocky Horror I can't believe that that incredible piece of ass belting out Touch Me is married to Tim fucking Robbins. Ugh.
J~$$$
05-03-2007, 01:50 PM
opinions (http://www.branduponthebrain.com/) please.
also vertigo on silver? agree with pot. you guys should go. really.
Wow. I would go see the live show.
roberto73
05-03-2007, 01:53 PM
Definitely see Vertigo on the big screen. When I lived in Ohio one of my favorite theaters had a Hitchcock retrospective: ten films in ten weeks, from the big names like Vertigo and Rear Window all the way through lesser-known titles like Marnie and Suspicion. It was so much more rewarding than just watching ten videos.
amyzzz
05-03-2007, 02:20 PM
I watched Vertigo on the big screen for 25 cents about 10 years ago. I think they were doing a Hitchcock festival or old movie festival at a Harkins Theatre here.
mob roulette
05-03-2007, 02:23 PM
Wow. I would go see the live show.
yeah, it looks really cool. i'm just not sure i'm on team guy maddin yet. i saw "saddest music" and i was like, meh. s'alright i guess. maybe i am missing the appeal here.
mob roulette
05-03-2007, 02:25 PM
Ah, The Player. Such a great flick. Such another perfect example of the immutable law that the only way to avoid the annoying kiss of death that is Tim Robbins is to cast him as someone either despicably toolish and/or dumber than a wet bag of monkey shit. Every time I watch Rocky Horror I can't believe that that incredible piece of ass belting out Touch Me is married to Tim fucking Robbins. Ugh.
shawshank being the only exception to this rule of course. man can emote.
with his eyes only, that is.
wmgaretjax
05-03-2007, 02:27 PM
anyone in CA should go see Brand Upon the Brain. live foley effects, a castrato, and orchestra... guest narrators? What more could you ask for?
LA June 8-10 at the Egyptian
SF May 7 at the Castro
schoolofruckus
05-03-2007, 02:34 PM
I've never seen any of Guy Maddin's films, but I'm going to try like hell to see that.
schoolofruckus
05-03-2007, 02:38 PM
The American Cinematheques in LA have some great screenings coming up. The Egyptian is doing a Jacques Tati retrospective this week, and "Playtime", which played in 70mm there last night, is playing at the Aero on Sunday. And "Husbands", one of the Cassavetes films that has yet to make it to DVD, is playing the Egyptian next Wednesday, May 9th. I'm absolutely planning to see both.
thelastgreatman
05-03-2007, 02:46 PM
shawshank being the only exception to this rule of course. man can emote.
with his eyes only, that is.
Yeah he's passable in Shawshank, but it'd be kinda hard to stink up a flick that solid. I never really feel sorry for him in that movie though because he bugs me so much. I always kinda wanna cheer when they gangrape him. I'd cheer if I was watching Tim Robbins get gangraped in real life.
Courtney
05-03-2007, 02:51 PM
Yeah he's passable in Shawshank, but it'd be kinda hard to stink up a flick that solid. I never really feel sorry for him in that movie though because he bugs me so much. I always kinda wanna cheer when they gangrape him. I'd cheer if I was watching Tim Robbins get gangraped in real life.
Bob Roberts anyone? I loved Tim Robbins in that movie. But I'll admit that it's a notable exception among a career of flops.
wmgaretjax
05-03-2007, 03:09 PM
I've never seen any of Guy Maddin's films, but I'm going to try like hell to see that.
do it do it. We should be getting a good screening up here in Seattle for SIFF. Also "The Saddest Music in the World" is great, as is "Cowards Bend the Knee" and "The Eye Like a Strange Balloon Mounts Toward Inifinity (short)."
schoolofruckus
05-03-2007, 03:38 PM
I think he's better than passable in "Shawshank". I liked him in "Human Nature" as well.
He was a big, big factor in me disliking "Short Cuts" and "Mystic River".
trivium1
05-03-2007, 03:44 PM
aww... i haven't really gotten a chance to watch that many movies lately. The last thing I went to see in the theater was "Are We Done Yet" but there were some people in the theater with me so I left and went to McDonalds.
chrislasf
05-03-2007, 04:02 PM
Nothing To Lose, bitches.
schoolofruckus
05-03-2007, 04:36 PM
"Nothing To Lose" was a pretty good movie.
SojuGorae
05-03-2007, 04:40 PM
Brief summary of Nothing to Lose:
White guy gets black guy a job
I hate the poster too
http://www.oentertainment.com/SaneO/NothingToLose/ntl_title.jpg
wmgaretjax
05-03-2007, 04:41 PM
"Nothing To Lose" was a pretty good movie.
I had a roommate once who loved that movie. I think it's pretty obnoxious.
schoolofruckus
05-03-2007, 04:50 PM
I've only watched it once, back in high school. I thought it was pretty funny.
atom heart
05-03-2007, 05:07 PM
are Bjork ReacTable avatars the new thing? It's not vulgar lil kids giving the finger anymore?
schoolofruckus
05-03-2007, 05:29 PM
I would have to say.......yes.
Nice flake on the meet-up prior to the Air set that never happened, by the way.
PotVsKtl
05-03-2007, 07:49 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/153/1000882~The-Hudsucker-Proxy-Posters.jpg
Hannahrain
05-03-2007, 07:52 PM
Say what you will, I love that movie. I believe I even put it on my top 25 in this thread.
mob roulette
05-03-2007, 07:59 PM
yeah, but i chalk that up mostly to direction. coen brothers>>>>>>>>tim robbins. they could make almost anybody look good.
wmgaretjax
05-03-2007, 08:23 PM
Hudsucker Proxy is my least favorite Coen Brothers movie, but keep in mind I haven't seen Intolerable Cruelty.
No wait... I take that back.... Ladykillers.
PotVsKtl
05-09-2007, 01:37 PM
My week long work from home sickness has curiously coincided with the seemingly never-ending flood of DVD sale orders arriving at my door. Last night, after having been slightly disappointed with Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown and All About My Mother from the Pedro Almodovar box, I skipped directly to what I surmised was generally considered his best film, Talk To Her (Habla Con Ella). And it's fucking great and the best film I've seen in weeks. Way to be correct random IMDB populace.
Morocco is boring, I don't give a fuck if Sternberg/Dietrich collaborations are supposed to be masterpieces.
To Have and Have Not was entertaining based entirely on the presence of Lauren Bacall. This is the film the "just put your lips together and blow" line comes from.
The Women is a great pseudo-screwball Cukor comedy with a cast consisting entirely of women. I mean there are (nearly) no men in the film. And a whole lot of bitches getting divorced.
The Stuff is a horrible movie which does not deserve to be as funny as it is.
Sins of the Fleshapoids is the best no-budget amateur 16mm science-fiction robots-having-babies movie ever made.
I also rented Little Children which has an American Beauty thing going on but is less hokey and has more castration. I purchased it the day after I returned it to Blockbuster, so it's got that going for it.
J~$$$
05-09-2007, 02:13 PM
Mark Cuban does it for the adults.
http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/05/08/mark-cuban-and-landmark-trying-again-to-reshape-the-theatrical-experience/
downingthief
05-09-2007, 02:17 PM
My week long work from home sickness has curiously coincided with the seemingly never-ending flood of DVD sale orders arriving at my door. Last night, after having been slightly disappointed with Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown and All About My Mother from the Pedro Almodovar box, I skipped directly to what I surmised was generally considered his best film, Talk To Her (Habla Con Ella). And it's fucking great and the best film I've seen in weeks. Way to be correct random IMDB populace.
Morocco is boring, I don't give a fuck if Sternberg/Dietrich collaborations are supposed to be masterpieces.
To Have and Have Not was entertaining based entirely on the presence of Lauren Bacall. This is the film the "just put your lips together and blow" line comes from.
The Women is a great pseudo-screwball Cukor comedy with a cast consisting entirely of women. I mean there are (nearly) no men in the film. And a whole lot of bitches getting divorced.
The Stuff is a horrible movie which does not deserve to be as funny as it is.
Sins of the Fleshapoids is the best no-budget amateur 16mm science-fiction robots-having-babies movie ever made.
I also rented Little Children which has an American Beauty thing going on but is less hokey and has more castration. I purchased it the day after I returned it to Blockbuster, so it's got that going for it.
Glad you enjoyed To Have, and Have Not...one of my all time faves. Bacall was only 19 when she made that one.
full on idle
05-09-2007, 02:19 PM
I skipped directly to what I surmised was generally considered his best film, Talk To Her (Habla Con Ella). And it's fucking great and the best film I've seen in weeks. Way to be correct random IMDB populace.
That movie was sad and beautiful but I prefer All About My Mother.
Morocco is boring, I don't give a fuck if Sternberg/Dietrich collaborations are supposed to be masterpieces.
1. I liked Casablanca.
2. Morocco is NOT BORING, in fact, one of my best friends in the WORLD was visiting there, fell in a hole and was rescued by a local man who let her live in his home for a month where THEY FELL IN LOVE AND NOW THEY'RE MARRIED AND THEY LIVE IN QUEENS.
TomAz
05-09-2007, 02:23 PM
1. I liked Casablanca.
2. Morocco is NOT BORING, in fact, one of my best friends in the WORLD was visiting there, fell in a hole and was rescued by a local man who let her live in his home for a month where THEY FELL IN LOVE AND NOW THEY'RE MARRIED AND THEY LIVE IN QUEENS.
I don't even watch movies that much but even I know he was talking about the movie called Morocco.
nice story about your friend, too bad it had such an unhappy ending.
full on idle
05-09-2007, 02:32 PM
oh. I got confused.
Thanks for gently correcting me without trying to make me feel stupid.
full on idle
05-09-2007, 02:34 PM
ps your mom watches movies that much
PotVsKtl
05-09-2007, 02:36 PM
http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/iceburn.gif
TomAz
05-09-2007, 02:37 PM
It is what you make of it, full on idle.
Yablonowitz
05-09-2007, 02:50 PM
Morocco is boring, I don't give a fuck if Sternberg/Dietrich collaborations are supposed to be masterpieces.
You're boring. Fucking Gary Cooper does not perform in bad movies. I loved Morrocco.
PotVsKtl
05-09-2007, 03:04 PM
You're boring. Fucking Gary Cooper does not perform in bad movies. I loved Morrocco.
Why don't you go take out a machine gun nest. Those walking bedsheets can't shoot straight anyway.
Yablonowitz
05-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Why don't you go take out a machine gun nest. Those walking bedsheets can't shoot straight anyway.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about there.
Actually, I was just saying that to take the focus off of Valarie's EGREGIOUS error earlier. All I really remember is that Gary Cooper was in the French Foreign Legion somehow and Marlene Dietrich smoked some cigarettes in the most erotic way possible. For a rather old movie, I thought it had more nuance to the acting than what I was expecting for 1930. You gotta give it credit for what it was at the time. Plus there's a girl-on-girl kiss! WHOA!
Yablonowitz
05-09-2007, 05:05 PM
Nando? (http://www.datasync.com/CuriousCatProductions/nando/nando.htm)
TomAz
05-09-2007, 05:15 PM
Mark Cuban does it for the adults.
http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/05/08/mark-cuban-and-landmark-trying-again-to-reshape-the-theatrical-experience/
very cool. I now dislike Mark Cuban a little less.
downingthief
05-09-2007, 07:50 PM
I don't have a clue what you're talking about there.
Actually, I was just saying that to take the focus off of Valarie's EGREGIOUS error earlier. All I really remember is that Gary Cooper was in the French Foreign Legion somehow and Marlene Dietrich smoked some cigarettes in the most erotic way possible. For a rather old movie, I thought it had more nuance to the acting than what I was expecting for 1930. You gotta give it credit for what it was at the time. Plus there's a girl-on-girl kiss! WHOA!
I believe that Pot was referring to "Sgt. York", in which Cooper's character takes out a machine gun nest in WWI.
And, if that wasn't it...Boy did I read into that Gary Cooper reference, or what?
wmgaretjax
05-09-2007, 11:59 PM
You're boring. Fucking Gary Cooper does not perform in bad movies. I loved Morrocco.
seven days leave, fighting caravans and I take this woman are all bad gary cooper films off the top of my head. everyone stars in bad movies now and then.
but Morrocco is not one of those.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 09:40 AM
You're boring. Fucking Gary Cooper does not perform in bad movies. I loved Morrocco.
Gary Cooper was horrendously miscast in "The Fountainhead", which to this day is probably my least favorite movie of all time because they had the best story known to man at their disposal and somehow (with Ayn Rand writing the screenplay, no less) they took all the meaning, all the authenticity, and even all the entertainment value out of it. The fact that it's so wildly different from the book - highlighted by Cooper playing Roark as a buttoned-down, stiff, grouchy old man rather than the stoic yet comfortable, self-assured superhero that he should be - suggests that Ayn Rand sold herself out to studio whims. Fuck Gary Cooper...I hope he had AIDS when he was still alive.
I've seen a few movies recently:
"Shadows" - I'm pacing myself on getting through that Cassavetes box set, so I just got around to seeing this one. It was my least favorite of his so far, but it's still pretty interesting. A little too technically rough around the edges to be truly effective.
"Le Fils" ("The Son") - This is the previous film from the Dardenne brothers, whose latest effort was "L' Enfant". "Le Fils" isn't quite as immediately absorbing as its successor, but it's pretty stunning in its own right. This film centers around Olivier, a gruff carpentry teacher at a vocational school who discovers that the new pupil trying to enroll in his class happens to be a former acquaintance...one whose transgressions are responsible for the current morose state of Oliver's life. The acting is outstanding, and the sparse Dardenne style - which, nodding at Cassavetes' best films, never attempts to editorialize on the characters or their actions - once again serves the moral ambiguity of the story perfectly.
"Husbands" - Another Cassavetes, only this one is not available on DVD. The print - which, like many of his films, has been extensively restored with the help of the UCLA film school - was playing at the American Cinematheque in Hollywood last night as part of a 70's series they're doing. Now THIS is the Cassavetes I know and worship. This film is about three long-time buddies - Harry (Ben Gazzara), Archie (Peter Falk), and Gus (the man himself) - who have just lost another good friend....the fourth corner of the group. In the wake of his death, they go on a two day drinking binge, in which each man takes stock of his life; Harry, whose life is probably in the worst shape of the three, decides to make an impromptu exodus to London, and the other two join him for a night of gambling and carousing. The film covers trademark Cassavetes ground - the fragile interactions between pervasively drunk people who are searching for a sense of self - but with a dominating sense of humor that I haven't seen in his other stuff. There are funny moments occasionally in "Faces" and "A Woman Under the Influence", but they are quickly overshadowed by the resentment and anger that lies just beneath the surface; on the other hand, "Husbands" is an unqualified comedy. Anyone who enjoys the kind of real-world emotional comedy that people like Alexander Payne or David O. Russell (or shit, Woody Allen for that matter) specialize in would go crazy for this movie. And the actors, as always, are universally excellent. I loved seeing Gazzara, Falk, and Cassavetes in the same film together, and their real-life friendship shines through in a trio of authentic performances that are immediately absorbing, entertaining, and sympathetic, while never failing to feel completely lived-in.
It's a fucking travesty that this film (owned by Sony Pictures) isn't available on DVD, because it's easily the most accessible Cassavetes film I've seen, and it would be the one that I would start people on when recommending his work. Anyway....I don't know if this print is making the rounds, or if it was just something that the Cinematheque borrowed from UCLA, but if any of you happen to check your local arthouse/specialty cinema schedules and see a film called "Husbands" playing, and it was made in 1970 and stars the actors mentioned above, you absolutely must catch it.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 10:41 AM
Gary Cooper was horrendously miscast in "The Fountainhead", which to this day is probably my least favorite movie of all time because they had the best story known to man at their disposal and somehow (with Ayn Rand writing the screenplay, no less) they took all the meaning, all the authenticity, and even all the entertainment value out of it. The fact that it's so wildly different from the book - highlighted by Cooper playing Roark as a buttoned-down, stiff, grouchy old man rather than the stoic yet comfortable, self-assured superhero that he should be - suggests that Ayn Rand sold herself out to studio whims. Fuck Gary Cooper...I hope he had AIDS when he was still alive.
Gary Cooper was in High Noon. He's also a Montana boy. So, don't you talk smack to him in front of me.
And maybe he shouldn't have been in that wacko libertarian's movie in the first place. I'm sure, if anything, he would have improved upon the original book.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. I love making fun of Ayn Rand and her dumb books I haven't read cuz you're all Dr. Love with Ayn Rand.
algunz
05-10-2007, 10:49 AM
Some books should just be left alone. The Fountainhead would've been one and if they even think about Catcher in the Rye I'll be so saddened. I'm sure some dipshit is out there pushing the idea.
I saw "Everything's Gone Green" written by Douglas Coupland. It was Ok. The story never satiated. It seemed rather half-baked. Bummed, 'cuz I love Generation X, Shampoo Planet, and Life After God.
wmgaretjax
05-10-2007, 10:52 AM
"Ayn Rand's popularity is similar to that of L Ron Hubbard's, she is a goddess of a great American cult, and worthy of being ignored." - Ray Jenkins: in response to a poll in which Atlas shrugged beat out Battlefield Earth as the greatest book of the twentieth century by a slight margin.
I'm jealous you saw Husbands Gabe, it's one I've wanted to check out for a while.
The Seattle International Film Festival line up is announced today... I'm waiting. I'm excited.
J~$$$
05-10-2007, 10:52 AM
You people dont know how to read.
algunz
05-10-2007, 10:55 AM
"Husbands" was showing on IFC a couple months back. I love that movie. Cassavetes is fantastic.
Another sorta lost film that is awesome is "Baby" by Jane Campion. I was able to get "Baby" through Netflix. "Husbands" isn't available there?
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 11:09 AM
Fuck.
wmgaretjax
05-10-2007, 11:13 AM
You people dont know how to read.
Your real father is a bullfrog, you've been lied to your whole life.
algunz
05-10-2007, 11:13 AM
Who?
wmgaretjax
05-10-2007, 11:16 AM
Who?
Who's who?
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 11:19 AM
Gary Cooper was in High Noon. He's also a Montana boy. So, don't you talk smack to him in front of me.
And maybe he shouldn't have been in that wacko libertarian's movie in the first place. I'm sure, if anything, he would have improved upon the original book.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. I love making fun of Ayn Rand and her dumb books I haven't read cuz you're all Dr. Love with Ayn Rand.
You're right. He shouldn't have. He should have left it to a real actor who could handle the role OHHHHHHHHHH FUCK MONTANA!!!!
Some books should just be left alone. The Fountainhead would've been one and if they even think about Catcher in the Rye I'll be so saddened. I'm sure some dipshit is out there pushing the idea.
I saw "Everything's Gone Green" written by Douglas Coupland. It was Ok. The story never satiated. It seemed rather half-baked. Bummed, 'cuz I love Generation X, Shampoo Planet, and Life After God.
"The Fountainhead" will make an amazing movie someday. The Vidor/Cooper version sucked. The Stone/Pitt version will suck if it gets made (and I'm confident/hopeful that it won't). But someone will nail it eventually.
I've heard that Terrence Mallick has been trying to mount an adaptation of "Catcher in the Rye" for a while now. Honestly, that would excite the hell out of me. But there's not many other directors I'd want to see tackle it.
"Ayn Rand's popularity is similar to that of L Ron Hubbard's, she is a goddess of a great American cult, and worthy of being ignored." - Ray Jenkins: in response to a poll in which Atlas shrugged beat out Battlefield Earth as the greatest book of the twentieth century by a slight margin.
I'm jealous you saw Husbands Gabe, it's one I've wanted to check out for a while.
Fuck Ray Jenkins. I'm not a blind Ayn Rand supporter - her philosophies were eventually undermined by her own hypocrisy, in more ways than just her signing off on a compromised "Fountainhead" movie - but "The Fountainhead" is the greatest artistic achievement in human history. To equate her with a child-molesting, profiteering con man like Hubbard is just insane.
I'm really hoping that the "Husbands" print(s) are making the rounds right now. It's so great. Sony and/or Gena Rowlands (who may own the rights for all I know) is/are fucking out of their mind(s) for not putting this one out on DVD. There's a pivotal scene towards the end where you can see the boom mic very clearly at the top of the frame for the entire scene....I have no idea if that has something to do with it or not. It would be easy to greek out if that's the case.
Another sorta lost film that is awesome is "Baby" by Jane Campion. I was able to get "Baby" through Netflix. "Husbands" isn't available there?
That's just it. It's not available on DVD at all, except maybe on some region 2 disc. I'm sure a videotape of it would be pretty expensive on eBay as well.
wmgaretjax
05-10-2007, 11:29 AM
Fuck Ray Jenkins. I'm not a blind Ayn Rand supporter - her philosophies were eventually undermined by her own hypocrisy, in more ways than just her signing off on a compromised "Fountainhead" movie - but "The Fountainhead" is the greatest artistic achievement in human history. To equate her with a child-molesting, profiteering con man like Hubbard is just insane.
I think he was simply comparing them as leaders of pseudo "cults." The greatest artistic achievement in human history? please....
"[The Sept 11 attacks were] the greatest work of art in the cosmos … compared to that, we composers are nothing.” - Karlheinz Stockhausen
I'll be on the look out for "Husbands" for sure.
EDIT: by the way, Ray Jenkins is a pulitzer prize winning civil rights champion. He had a kind of vendetta against Ayn Rand that is quite humorous. For the record, I can appreciate Rand's work... but people that champion her as some kind of visionary need to look further back in history. You'll find many of her ideas expressed fully elsewhere, without the transparent narrative.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 11:35 AM
Gabe - I love how I'm much more likely to get a response from you if I post something in here as opposed to emailing you which I did a couple hours ago.
GO READ YOUR FUCKING EMAILS, MOVIES ARE RETARDED!
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 11:39 AM
"The Fountainhead" is the greatest artistic achievement in human history.
Sociopath.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 12:19 PM
I think he was simply comparing them as leaders of pseudo "cults." The greatest artistic achievement in human history? please....
"[The Sept 11 attacks were] the greatest work of art in the cosmos … compared to that, we composers are nothing.” - Karlheinz Stockhausen
I'll be on the look out for "Husbands" for sure.
EDIT: by the way, Ray Jenkins is a pulitzer prize winning civil rights champion. He had a kind of vendetta against Ayn Rand that is quite humorous. For the record, I can appreciate Rand's work... but people that champion her as some kind of visionary need to look further back in history. You'll find many of her ideas expressed fully elsewhere, without the transparent narrative.
I'll give you that. I don't know enough to earnestly make the statement I made about "greatest achievement in blah blah blah"....I was just hyperbolizing because I really love the living shit out of "The Fountainhead". And I do agree that, like several artists whose work strikes a controversial chord with a large audience, Ayn Rand's got a lot of monkeys in her corner who take her writings to extreme lengths. I don't follow it verbatim as a black-and-white roadmap, but it spoke to me at a pretty important time in my life, and I think it does represent the best way of thinking that human beings are capable of; some people, unfortunately, get the gist of what she preached (egotism, living according to one's own standards above all) without grasping the essence (that is, they try to be intransigent and elitist and egotistical for its own sake rather than living freely and naturally, without apologies), and thus you do get a rabid, cult-ish following. Hence why I get called a sociopath for my adoration; that wasn't unjustified. But I do resent the comparison to Hubbard because, well....it's Hubbard for fuck's sake. I wouldn't equate many people's legacies with his, no matter how fervent or stupid some of their minions may be.
But what do I know? Justin's right; I can't fucking read.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 12:24 PM
To be clear, Rand had a huge impact on my adolescence as well. I know, I can practically hear the collective gasp of surprise. The Fountainhead is one of a small number of Great American Novels.
But you're still a sociopath.
full on idle
05-10-2007, 01:20 PM
gasp
chrislasf
05-10-2007, 01:24 PM
I want you to think of what you ate today. Got it? Now cut that in half, this is called a diet, people, everyone start one today! Darcy, you should stop eating. You see, when you skip a meal, your body feeds off its fat stores. And if you skip enough, maybe your body will eat your ass!
thelastgreatman
05-10-2007, 01:29 PM
"Do you know what a baby is saying when she reaches for a bottle?"
"Um... 'ba-ba?'"
"No! She is saying, 'I am a leech!' Our aim here is to develop the bottle within."
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 02:12 PM
The legions of parents who have no idea how to teach their kids not to smoke even though hundreds of thousands of other Americans do....I mean, the anti-smoking lobbyists have struck again. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117964655.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 02:19 PM
The legions of parents who have no idea how to teach their kids not to smoke even though hundreds of thousands of other Americans do....I mean, the anti-smoking lobbyists have struck again. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117964655.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
I agree with that they should add ratings for smoking.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 02:24 PM
I agree with that they should add ratings for smoking.
I agree with that you should be deported and shot.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 02:31 PM
ooooo, is that a death threat?
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 02:50 PM
So what rating should 101 Dalmations get?
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 02:51 PM
I don't give a rat's ass.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 02:51 PM
I agree with that parents who don't want their kids to smoke should find ways to suggest that without enlisting the ratings board to come in and ghettoize certain films in a way that hurts their commercial potential. Getting the ratings board involved in anything, to push any agenda, simply means that independent films will have examples made out of them while Spielberg and his buddies get a slap on the wrist and a pat on the ass.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 02:54 PM
They could at least add in the description "smoking" along with "violence, brief nudity, drug use," etc.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 02:57 PM
http://www.filmfocus.nl/images/plaatjes/4474.jpg
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 03:06 PM
So what rating should 101 Dalmations get?
That's a perfect example. Are we going to upgrade all the "smoking villain" Disney cartoons from the past 100 years to a PG rating?
Of course not. We're going to rationalize that since she's the bad guy in the movie, then her pack-an-hour pace is in a proper moral context; we'll also say that "Good Night, and Good Luck.", which should become an NC-17 if smoking is grounds for a more adult classification, is representing the way that newsmen really smoked back in the 50's (which is pushing it), and thus can stay at a PG rating so everyone can see it. But then they'd turn around and make "Half Nelson" an NC-17, because the inherently sexy lead character smokes a lot and manages to look cool even while he's descending into the depths of addiction.
The truth is that most independent films are ghettoized by the ratings board for other reasons, and most of the movies I want to see are already R-rated and fucked over financially for other reasons. But this issue still irks me, and the failure of parents nationwide to look within for the solution to why their kids smoke (or want to smoke) is getting out of hand.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:09 PM
I don't think there should be such a stigma for NC-17, but I almost agree those movies should be NC-17 because they are definitely movies made for adults (aside from the smoking content).
I doubt they'd make movies NC-17 solely because of smoking content. And anyway, they usually make possible NC-17's as "unrated," don't they?
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 03:14 PM
I don't think there should be such a stigma for NC-17, but I almost agree those movies should be NC-17 because they are definitely movies made for adults (aside from the smoking content).
I doubt they'd make movies NC-17 solely because of smoking content. And anyway, they usually make possible NC-17's as "unrated," don't they?
NC-17 and unrated are the same in that those films can't advertise in most newspapers (which is becoming increasingly irrelevant in this day and age, thank the fuck Christ), and they don't get booked by major theater and/or video store chains. I don't like the stigma either, and when you get down to it that's a much, much bigger problem than factoring smoking into the rating of a film. But that stigma exists, and giving the board that much more criteria to level against small films that they - a clueless, uncultured bunch who would confuse Michelangelo Antonioni with Michelangelo the ninja turtle - don't care about is a very, very bad idea.
downingthief
05-10-2007, 03:18 PM
That's a perfect example. Are we going to upgrade all the "smoking villain" Disney cartoons from the past 100 years to a PG rating?
Of course not. We're going to rationalize that since she's the bad guy in the movie, then her pack-an-hour pace is in a proper moral context; we'll also say that "Good Night, and Good Luck.", which should become an NC-17 if smoking is grounds for a more adult classification, is representing the way that newsmen really smoked back in the 50's (which is pushing it), and thus can stay at a PG rating so everyone can see it. But then they'd turn around and make "Half Nelson" an NC-17, because the inherently sexy lead character smokes a lot and manages to look cool even while he's descending into the depths of addiction.
The truth is that most independent films are ghettoized by the ratings board for other reasons, and most of the movies I want to see are already R-rated and fucked over financially for other reasons. But this issue still irks me, and the failure of parents nationwide to look within for the solution to why their kids smoke (or want to smoke) is getting out of hand.
I am a parent, and I happen to agree with you. Any acurrate "period" movie would have to show smoking, and lots of it. GN, GL is a great example.
As a parent, I don't want movies, TV, whatever, whomever dictating to me what my son can and can't watch. I do my research on any movie I take him to. Not just by ratings. I want to know the content, etc. But, that's me. I've been involved with some sort of artistic endeavor for as long as I can remember, and I always will want the artists to have control over their content. I think that I can do a good job of telling my son the reasons why smoking is bad for you. I grew up seeing smoking all the time in movies, and I have never even tried a cigarette.
I can understand Amy's point of view, though. There are tons of things that, as a parent, you want to keep your children from doing/trying, etc. But, my view is that if it is out in the open, it is easer to talk about.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:22 PM
I don't really like censorship, but at least adding the smoking description could be helpful to parents. It shouldn't go any further than a PG-13 rating though.
Ratings have gotten more and more stringent over the past 35 years or so they've had them. I'm still completely clueless as to why this old Jodie Foster movie Little Girl Down the Lane was given a PG rating when she was naked from the back in the movie and obviously engaging in sexual activity and she was supposed to be 13 years old. Now, they don't even give normal movies PG ratings, only slightly questionable kids movies get PG anymore.
downingthief
05-10-2007, 03:26 PM
I don't really like censorship, but at least adding the smoking description could be helpful to parents. It shouldn't go any further than a PG-13 rating though.
Ratings have gotten more and more stringent over the past 35 years or so they've had them. I'm still completely clueless as to why this old Jodie Foster movie Little Girl Down the Lane was given a PG rating when she was naked from the back in the movie and obviously engaging in sexual activity and she was supposed to be 13 years old. Now, they don't even give normal movies PG ratings, only slightly questionable kids movies get PG anymore.
Ahh, the good old days. I remember going to see the PG rated, Sixteen Candles in the theater. Seeing boobs on the big screen is a right of passage for a young lad. :p
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:28 PM
Oh yeah! The shower scene with the popular chick! I've seen that movie so many times on censored cable that I forgot about that.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 03:40 PM
It's not the adding of the smoking description that bums me out; it's the idea that it's going to play into (and in many cases, supposedly "heighten") the actual rating the film receives. Movies featuring teen smoking have had that description in their ratings blurb for a while now, but they're taking the trend further to include adult characters as well.
My recently-completed screenplay is, for a number of reasons, going to be an R-rated film, anyway. But I also have characters who smoke a lot for no other reason but to look cool (and, okay, because I was quitting smoking while I wrote it, and every scene I wrote I had cigarettes on the brain, and that kind of came out on paper). That character decision isn't utilized in a "historical" context, and certainly not in a "moral" one either, but it is critical to making the world these characters inhabit feel authentic. So do I have to worry now that my film, which will be fortunate to get even a limited theatrical run, is going to get slapped with an NC-17? I mean, if the smoking thing is going to be used as some kind of tipping point, then I have to anticipate that I'm in deep shit. Hell, this development may even scare off investors. Sure, I can make the decision to cut out the smoking in the movie, but that would be compromising my work, and like I said, it'd definitely cut down on the realism of the characters I'm portraying.
And why? Because a large, vocal group of lobbyists doesn't have the fortitude to take responsibility for their children's habits and levels of influence.
Films depict life. In life, some people smoke. That doesn't mean that your people have to smoke. The sooner that simple concept is grasped, the better off we'll all be.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:42 PM
You admitted yourself that the characters are smoking to look "cool." I don't want my kids watching that in a billion movies. I hope that trend goes away. I really do.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 03:47 PM
I don't really like censorship, but at least adding the smoking description could be helpful to parents. It shouldn't go any further than a PG-13 rating though.
Ratings have gotten more and more stringent over the past 35 years or so they've had them. I'm still completely clueless as to why this old Jodie Foster movie Little Girl Down the Lane was given a PG rating when she was naked from the back in the movie and obviously engaging in sexual activity and she was supposed to be 13 years old. Now, they don't even give normal movies PG ratings, only slightly questionable kids movies get PG anymore.
So why would you want these ratings to get more stringent? They are saying that smoking is now going to be a consideration when making their ratings, not just that they're going to throw in the description to warn parents that there's smoking in the movie.
This is when I become a Libertarian. For a while.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 03:49 PM
Amy.
PEOPLE smoke in real life to look cool.
Are you saying that no one should ever make any movie ever about hipsters or musicians or alcoholics because god forbid we ever have anyone smoking on screen?
http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/reinersouthpart.jpg
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 03:49 PM
You admitted yourself theat the characters are smoking to look "cool." I don't want my kids watching that in a billion movies. I hope that trend goes away. I really do.
As a parent of two children, I can't disagree with you more. Kids don't smoke because they see it in movies.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:50 PM
I think people should stop smoking period, and then it wouldn't need to be in any movies, songs, art, etc.
eidt: yes, goddamnit, I'm getting angry. This is a polarizing issue with me.
J~$$$
05-10-2007, 03:52 PM
Edit: not my fight.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:53 PM
Smoker.
J~$$$
05-10-2007, 03:54 PM
E-tard.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:55 PM
Edit: not my fight.
hahaha. I just picture Riddick saying that.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 03:56 PM
This is a polarizing issue with me.
Do you end up not talking to yourself for a few weeks? Could you extend that courtesy to us?
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:56 PM
You have your ignore button.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 03:56 PM
I think people should stop smoking period, and then it wouldn't need to be in any movies, songs, art, etc.
eidt: yes, goddamnit, I'm getting angry. This is a polarizing issue with me.
It's a polarizing issue with you because you have a fascist, overreaching take on it. If you would look after your own self/family/circle and leave everyone else to make their own decisions, then it wouldn't bother you so much, and you wouldn't incite the wrath of others who would like to enjoy the freedom of choice that you seem to think no one else deserves.
I haven't had a cigarette in all of 2007, and you're making me want to go light one up right now.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 03:58 PM
I haven't had a cigarette in all of 2007, and you're making me want to go light one up right now.
Sorry about that. I just hate people smoking around me. Luckily, I don't have to worry about that much now since it is past May 1st.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 04:00 PM
It's a polarizing issue with you because you have a fascist, overreaching take on it. If you would look after your own self/family/circle and leave everyone else to make their own decisions, then it wouldn't bother you so much, and you wouldn't incite the wrath of others who would like to enjoy the freedom of choice that you seem to think no one else deserves.
I haven't had a cigarette in all of 2007, and you're making me want to go light one up right now.
Well...it's murky waters when you're talking about actual smoking (versus showing it in a movie). If you live in a house with others, it's not just a choice that affects you if you smoke. Same with public smoking. I guess I'm a little less Libertarian when it comes to actual smoking. I don't complain about it in bars and it doesn't make me less likely to go to one. I think bars are a perfect place to inhale second hand smoke. But if it's someplace where I'm going to be taking the kids - then I'm not so into individual freedom.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 04:00 PM
I get fascist when I'm angry, kind of like people who slip back into their British accents or Southern accents when they're angry.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 04:01 PM
I get fascist when I'm angry, kind of like people who slip back into their British accents or Southern accents when they're angry.
Oh yeah. Those people.
J~$$$
05-10-2007, 04:01 PM
you keep your damn ankle biters away from my smoking.
Hannahrain
05-10-2007, 04:02 PM
You don't hear Amy's fascist accent all that much, but it's pretty prevalent in this thread.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 04:03 PM
you keep your damn ankle bitters away from my smoking.
You're not coming over to our house now.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 04:05 PM
I really do worry about smoking characters looking "cool" to my children. And I do believe that a kid could start smoking because it looks cool in the movies/TV/etc.
J~$$$
05-10-2007, 04:05 PM
Uncle J is probably a bad choice to have over at your house in the first place. Kids or not.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:06 PM
Well...it's murky waters when you're talking about actual smoking (versus showing it in a movie). If you live in a house with others, it's not just a choice that affects you if you smoke. Same with public smoking. I guess I'm a little less Libertarian when it comes to actual smoking. I don't complain about it in bars and it doesn't make me less likely to go to one. I think bars are a perfect place to inhale second hand smoke. But if it's someplace where I'm going to be taking the kids - then I'm not so into individual freedom.
For starters, my comments may apply only to movies. She wants nobody to be able to watch or make any movie that includes smoking; that's fascism, and it's a separation of me from my rights as an American filmgoer.
For another - this is why the only fair stance is to leave it up to individual establishment owners to whether or not they allow smoking in their place of business. If a smoke-friendly place exists, then you as a consumer know not to go there, and you as an employee know not to apply there. If a no-smoking place exists, then people who smoke cigarettes know what they're sacrificing when they set foot inside. Anything else, and one group or the other is getting a raw deal.
And that's why I'm a Libertarian all the time.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:08 PM
I really do worry about smoking characters looking "cool" to my children. And I do believe that a kid could start smoking because it looks cool in the movies/TV/etc.
That's true....if that kid's parent doesn't take an active role in discouraging and removing the sex appeal from smoking. I'm not making any inferences here; I'm just saying.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 04:10 PM
I really do worry about smoking characters looking "cool" to my children. And I do believe that a kid could start smoking because it looks cool in the movies/TV/etc.
What about smoking people looking cool to your children? Would you support a ban on smoking in public? What about people having fun in restaurants while drinking? Would you support a law to move anyone imbibing alcoholic substances into a curtained off sound proof back room - said room being financed by the restaurant owner?
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 04:11 PM
For starters, my comments may apply only to movies. She wants nobody to be able to watch or make any movie that includes smoking; that's fascism, and it's a separation of me from my rights as an American filmgoer.
For another - this is why the only fair stance is to leave it up to individual establishment owners to whether or not they allow smoking in their place of business. If a smoke-friendly place exists, then you as a consumer know not to go there, and you as an employee know not to apply there. If a no-smoking place exists, then people who smoke cigarettes know what they're sacrificing when they set foot inside. Anything else, and one group or the other is getting a raw deal.
And that's why I'm a Libertarian all the time.
Yeah....I don't know. You'd have to have faith that all parents would make the right decisions about where to take their kids based on that information. There are a shitload of parents who smoke in the house of their kids and who wouldn't bat an eye bringing their kids into an establishment that allows smoking. You need regulation for that. If not for moral reasons than for the deletrious effects that has on the cost of healthcare.
downingthief
05-10-2007, 04:12 PM
For starters, my comments may apply only to movies. She wants nobody to be able to watch or make any movie that includes smoking; that's fascism, and it's a separation of me from my rights as an American filmgoer.
For another - this is why the only fair stance is to leave it up to individual establishment owners to whether or not they allow smoking in their place of business. If a smoke-friendly place exists, then you as a consumer know not to go there, and you as an employee know not to apply there. If a no-smoking place exists, then people who smoke cigarettes know what they're sacrificing when they set foot inside. Anything else, and one group or the other is getting a raw deal.
And that's why I'm a Libertarian all the time.
May 1st was the big day for Az. No smoking anywhere inside public places now.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 04:15 PM
For starters, my comments may apply only to movies. She wants nobody to be able to watch or make any movie that includes smoking; that's fascism, and it's a separation of me from my rights as an American filmgoer.
I didn't say that, or at least that is not what I meant. I would prefer that smoking would be gone, but I guess that is not realistic. Warning labels are more what I'm talking about.
For another - this is why the only fair stance is to leave it up to individual establishment owners to whether or not they allow smoking in their place of business. If a smoke-friendly place exists, then you as a consumer know not to go there, and you as an employee know not to apply there. If a no-smoking place exists, then people who smoke cigarettes know what they're sacrificing when they set foot inside. Anything else, and one group or the other is getting a raw deal.
And that's why I'm a Libertarian all the time.
I disagree. I've had to suffer going to smoky bars for years because the band I want to see, or the DJ I wanted to listen to was playing in a bar that allowed smoking. Thank God they are no longer allowed to do that. You can bet your sweet ass I will be turning any AZ bar in that is allowing illegal smoking on its premises from now on.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 04:17 PM
What about smoking people looking cool to your children? Would you support a ban on smoking in public? What about people having fun in restaurants while drinking? Would you support a law to move anyone imbibing alcoholic substances into a curtained off sound proof back room - said room being financed by the restaurant owner?
Smoking is my main beef. I don't really care so much about alcohol. It's not quite as hazardous and disgusting. And yes, I would and DID support a ban on smoking in public, at least inside public buildings.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:18 PM
Yeah....I don't know. You'd have to have faith that all parents would make the right decisions about where to take their kids based on that information. There are a shitload of parents who smoke in the house of their kids and who wouldn't bat an eye bringing their kids into an establishment that allows smoking. You need regulation for that. If not for moral reasons than for the deletrious effects that has on the cost of healthcare.
The cost on health care thing is a relevant aspect to the issue, but the bottom line is that you're jobbing one group to compensate for the dereliction of another. Why patronize everyone just because a few - or a shitload - of parents are bad at rearing children? You think that prohibiting those people from smoking in restaurants is going to lessen the amount of smoke that those kids inhale in the car or living room every day? Why are we trying to impact the people who own business but can't even establish their own house rules, rather than putting all that effort to taking those kids out of the hands of those deadbeat parents altogether?
Because the anti-smoking crusaders aren't affected by deadbeat parents smoking around their children at home.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:20 PM
I didn't say that, or at least that is not what I meant. I would prefer that smoking would be gone, but I guess that is not realistic. Warning labels are more what I'm talking about.
I disagree. I've had to suffer going to smoky bars for years because the band I want to see, or the DJ I wanted to listen to was playing in a bar that allowed smoking. Thank God they are no longer allowed to do that. You can bet your sweet ass I will be turning any AZ bar in that is allowing illegal smoking on its premises from now on.
Don't talk about my sweet ass.
It's your choice to go to places where you know people smoke. Why not write letters to all your favorite artists and request that they only play smoke-free venues?
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 04:21 PM
Don't talk about my sweet ass.
It's your choice to go to places where you know people smoke. Why not write letters to all your favorite artists and request that they only play smoke-free venues?
The point is moot now.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:22 PM
Because you and all your knee-stepping, jack-booted cronies have gotten your way!
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 04:22 PM
The cost on health care thing is a relevant aspect to the issue, but the bottom line is that you're jobbing one group to compensate for the dereliction of another. Why patronize everyone just because a few - or a shitload - of parents are bad at rearing children? You think that prohibiting those people from smoking in restaurants is going to lessen the amount of smoke that those kids inhale in the car or living room every day? Why are we trying to impact the people who own business but can't even establish their own house rules, rather than putting all that effort to taking those kids out of the hands of those deadbeat parents altogether?
Because the anti-smoking crusaders aren't affected by deadbeat parents smoking around their children at home.
I feel like we've had this argument before? So, in your world, food regulation would be thrown out the window provided that restaurants have a sign that would read: Caution - we sometimes give people hepatitis?
wmgaretjax
05-10-2007, 04:23 PM
i think movies with fast food in them should get the rating bump...
seattle just instated a indoor smoking ban for all venues and restaraunts. I think it's really stupid, but I deal with it.
It was an initiative. I for one will respect that. If it was a state created law however I would most definitely disobey it.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:26 PM
We have had this argument before.
Last time I checked, nobody voluntarily enjoyed a nice slab of hepititis to help them unwind at the end of the day or to improve their buzz at a party.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 04:26 PM
Don't talk about my sweet ass.
It's your choice to go to places where you know people smoke. Why not write letters to all your favorite artists and request that they only play smoke-free venues?
One person isn't going to change anything, you dope.
However, I'm on your side with this for places like bars. If it's 21 and over - you're smart enough to know the risks you're taking going into a bar with smoke. That's the public smoking law we have here, and it makes sense to me. If they serve liquor (not a liquor store, a pub), then they allow the businesses to permit smoking if they choose. Almost every bar in town has a smoke-free day usually. My lungs are developed much better as an adult that I'm willing to take the risk to breath in smoke. If it gets to the point where it bothers me, I'll stop going but I won't feel like they should bad smoking there.
Context...it depends on the kind of public place it is.
downingthief
05-10-2007, 04:27 PM
i think movies with fast food in them should get the rating bump...
seattle just instated a indoor smoking ban for all venues and restaraunts. I think it's really stupid, but I deal with it.
It was an initiative. I for one will respect that. If it was a state created law however I would most definitely disobey it.
I agree with that last statement. In AZ, it was on the ballot.
We DID have another one that was for something along the lines of what Gabe was saying; giving the establishment the choice. That got shot down, and the all out ban passed.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 04:29 PM
Smoking is my main beef. I don't really care so much about alcohol. It's not quite as hazardous and disgusting. And yes, I would and DID support a ban on smoking in public, at least inside public buildings.
But you still run the risk of seeing smoking people on the street. What if they look cool? Maybe you should put a warning label on the inside of your front door. I wonder what it would say?
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 04:31 PM
But you still run the risk of seeing smoking people on the street. What if they look cool? Maybe you should put a warning label on the inside of your front door. I wonder what it would say?
I don't think you'd get a label slapped on. I saw you smoking and you didn't do it justice. You got to work on your smoking mannerisms.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:45 PM
i think movies with fast food in them should get the rating bump...
seattle just instated a indoor smoking ban for all venues and restaraunts. I think it's really stupid, but I deal with it.
It was an initiative. I for one will respect that. If it was a state created law however I would most definitely disobey it.
Fast food is the best parallel to this smoking thing. McDonald's can fucking kill you as fast as Marlboro. If we're going to patronizingly save people from themselves, why stop at cigarettes?
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:49 PM
I don't think you'd get a label slapped on. I saw you smoking and you didn't do it justice. You got to work on your smoking mannerisms.
Psh - if anyone's going to make smoking look cool, it was Pot. I'm going to send a photo of him enjoying a smoke to Amy's children.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:51 PM
One person isn't going to change anything, you dope.
However, I'm on your side with this for places like bars. If it's 21 and over - you're smart enough to know the risks you're taking going into a bar with smoke. That's the public smoking law we have here, and it makes sense to me. If they serve liquor (not a liquor store, a pub), then they allow the businesses to permit smoking if they choose. Almost every bar in town has a smoke-free day usually. My lungs are developed much better as an adult that I'm willing to take the risk to breath in smoke. If it gets to the point where it bothers me, I'll stop going but I won't feel like they should bad smoking there.
Context...it depends on the kind of public place it is.
You're not as big of a fascist as Amy.
And I said "why don't you write a letter to bands", etc., as more of a general question to anyone who is considering spending a significant amount of time trying to get smoking banned in public.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 04:54 PM
Psh - if anyone's going to make smoking look cool, it was Pot. I'm going to send a photo of him enjoying a smoke to Amy's children.
You'll have to send it to me first to rub on my glands. Superior pheremones are a key element of my image.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 04:55 PM
You'll have to send it to me first to rub on my glands. Superior pheremones are a key element of my image.
Please do NOT fucking go there, asshole.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 04:55 PM
But Amy! It's the pheremones of the gods!
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 04:56 PM
Please do NOT fucking go there, asshole.
I think you're confused.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 04:59 PM
A co-worker of mine had a picture in the newspaper along with her daughter because they were at some restaurant opening or whatever. A couple weeks later some pedophile mailed her 10 year old daughter and extremely disgusting obscene letter with a picture of him naked inside the envelope. Your post reminds me of that.
chrislasf
05-10-2007, 04:59 PM
Yes, those are equal.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 05:00 PM
A co-worker of mine had a picture in the newspaper along with her daughter because they were at some restaurant opening or whatever. A couple weeks later some pedophile mailed her 10 year old daughter and extremely disgusting obscene letter with a picture of him naked inside the envelope. Your post reminds me of that.
I don't smoke in the nude, it's hazardous to my physique.
P.S. You're a little bit crazy aren't you?
full on idle
05-10-2007, 05:05 PM
jesus lord.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 05:05 PM
When it comes to protecting my children, yes, I am a little bit crazy.
schoolofruckus
05-10-2007, 05:07 PM
It would be better to remain calm and even-keel....for their sake. Think of the children.
full on idle
05-10-2007, 05:08 PM
I'm going to pass a law that will protect ALL the children from Pot's pheremones.
PotVsKtl
05-10-2007, 05:08 PM
From what? A person on a message board making a joke about rubbing a non-existent photograph on their sweat glands? Maybe you aren't cut out for this whole "internet" thing. Or "interacting with properly configured sentient beings." Whatever.
amyzzz
05-10-2007, 05:09 PM
It would be better to remain calm and even-keel....for their sake. Think of the children.
That, unfortunately, is my husband's job.
wmgaretjax
05-10-2007, 06:29 PM
a little pedophillia never hurt anyone... a lot could.... but a little just toughens them up. puts a little hair on their chest.
J~$$$
05-10-2007, 06:33 PM
hell.
Jenniehoo
05-10-2007, 06:35 PM
I will use your child's head as my ashtray.
Yablonowitz
05-10-2007, 06:53 PM
When it comes to protecting my children, yes, I am a little bit crazy.
Why don't you try to protect your children from your husband hitting them on their ass?
Hannahrain
05-12-2007, 11:28 AM
The plan tomorrow night is to go see this:
AIR GUITAR NATION
Friday & Sunday nights:midnight
THEATRE TWO
1hour 29 minutes.
Unrated.
A battle of naked ambition plays out on a national and world stage as legions of aspiring rock stars live out their dreams on a quest to become world air guitar champions. Strumming and strutting their way towards glory and the coveted national title are C. Diddy (David Jung), a samurai warrior clad in a "Hello Kitty'' breast plate and red kimono, and his arch nemesis, the Lower East Side's Björn Türoque (Dan Crane). Full of triumph and disappointment, patriotic spirit and political tension—and, of course, invisible guitars—filmmaker Alexandra Lipsitz's documentary takes audiences on an inspiring, exhilarating, and ultimately hilarious journey that delves deep to find out what it truly takes to become the best in the world.
CuervoPH
05-12-2007, 11:43 AM
Hmm. Interesting. I'm just afraid that the only cinema around here that would show a documentary is about 4 hours away in Manhattan.
Sight unseen, though, I'm voting for the Hello Kitty guy.
Hannahrain
05-12-2007, 11:46 AM
This one's like half an hour from me on foot. They only have two screens. They show art films, documentaries, old concert footage, all sorts of things.
J~$$$
05-12-2007, 11:51 AM
I went to see 28 weeks later.....I give it 5 stars only for the fact everyone yelling shit to the actors and it turned into one of the funniest movies I have ever seen..... quotes I overheard...
"OH SHIT!!!! STOP, DROP AND ROLL NIGGA!"
"BITCH DON'T PUT DOWN THE GUN!....Oh that bitch is dead!"
"RUN MUTHAFUCKER RUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!"
"DONT GO DOWN THERE!!!! You think these dumb bitches would have learned after watching Blair witch."
"DID YOU JUS KISS HERPES MOUTH!? DAMNNNN YOU STUPID... HOE!
There were other comments but those had me laughing my ass off, because it was coming from a big black woman in the back of the theater.
schoolofruckus
05-12-2007, 11:56 AM
Does that mean that it's a shit movie without the MST3K routine?
J~$$$
05-12-2007, 12:00 PM
Worst movie ever.
Jenniehoo
05-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Honestly?
I DEMAND HONESTY.
J~$$$
05-12-2007, 12:08 PM
Um it wasnt horrible but, the plot was absolute shit. It was not scary, it was more gore. It was nothing like the first one at all. OMG the stupidity of using the same person through out......how do I put this without spoiling it.....a zombie/infected that shows up during every killing.
I put it on par with Snakes on a Plane, unless you are in a theater where people are talking shit and laughing you might fall asleep.
Jenniehoo
05-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Shit.
We were going to go see that tonight.
I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY.
wmgaretjax
05-12-2007, 12:59 PM
The plan tomorrow night is to go see this:
saw this. it was all right. but I feel like it would have worked better as a documentary short. wasn't interesting enough to sustain it's length.
schoolofruckus
05-12-2007, 01:01 PM
I just checked the Seattle International Film Festival line-up....there's probably 20 films I want to see on the list, and that's just browsing the titles to see if I recognized anything. First and foremost is "The Boss of It All". I think it'll be out in LA by then. I'm fucking stoked.
wmgaretjax
05-12-2007, 01:34 PM
I just checked the Seattle International Film Festival line-up....there's probably 20 films I want to see on the list, and that's just browsing the titles to see if I recognized anything. First and foremost is "The Boss of It All". I think it'll be out in LA by then. I'm fucking stoked.
My schedule (no way I will see all of them, probably a third reasonable)... I'm missing some key ones, but Boss of it All, One11 and 113, Still Alive, 30th Century Man, Opera Jawa, and Max Havelaar are at the top of my list.
May 25
Glue
4:30pm
Egyptian Theatre
GLUE2507A
12:08 East of Bucharest
5:00pm
Pacific Place Cinema
12082507A
The Aerial
7:00pm
Northwest Film Forum
AERI2507A
Paprika***
9:30pm
Neptune Theatre
PAPR2507A
May 28
One11 and 103***
7:00pm
Northwest Film Forum
103X2807A
May 29
Ghosts of Cité Soleil
7:00pm
Northwest Film Forum
CITE2907A
This Is England***
9:45pm
Egyptian Theatre
ENGL2907A
May 30
The Devil Came on Horseback***
7:00pm
Harvard Exit
DEVI3007A
4 Elements
9:30pm
Northwest Film Forum
4ELE3007A
May 31
Reprise
4:00pm
SIFF Cinema
REPR3107A
Strange Culture
7:00pm
Northwest Film Forum
STRA3107A
The Ten
9:30pm
Egyptian Theatre
TENX3107A
June 1
Still Alive. A Film About Krzysztof Kieslowski***
5:00pm
Egyptian Theatre
STIL0107A
Death at a Funeral
7:00pm
Lincoln Square Cinemas
DEAT0107A
No Regret
9:15pm
Harvard Exit
NORE0107A
2
Rocket Science
6:30pm
Neptune Theatre
ROCK0207A
Kurt Cobain About A Son
9:30pm
Neptune Theatre
KURT0207A
3
Joe Strummer: The Future Is Unwritten
4:00pm
SIFF Cinema
JOES0307A
Waiter
9:45pm
Neptune Theatre
WTER0307A
5
DarkBlueAlmostBlack
9:30pm
Egyptian Theatre
DARK0507A
6
The Art of Crying
4:30pm
Pacific Place Cinema
ARTO0607A
One to Another
9:30pm
Egyptian Theatre
ANOT0607A
9
Max Havelaar ***
3:30pm
SIFF Cinema
MAXH0907A
Goya's Ghosts ***
6:30pm
Neptune Theatre
GOYA0907A
Salvador ***
9:00pm
Pacific Place Cinema
SALV0907A
10
The Memory Thief
1:30pm
SIFF Cinema
MEMO1007A
White Light/Black Rain
4:00pm
SIFF Cinema
LIGH1007A
Scott Walker: 30 Century Man ***
6:30pm
Pacific Place Cinema
SCOT1007A
TEKKONKINKREET ***
9:30pm
Egyptian Theatre
TEKK1007A
11
The Man of My Life
4:15pm
Egyptian Theatre
MANO1107A
The Bothersome Man
7:00pm
Neptune Theatre
BOTH1107A
12
Offscreen
3:30pm
Lincoln Square Cinemas
OSCR1207A
Euphoria
4:00pm
Neptune Theatre
EUPH1207A
Lady Chatterley
6:00pm
Lincoln Square Cinemas
LADY1207A
13
Opera Jawa ***
4:00pm
SIFF Cinema
OPER1307A
The Boss of It All ***
7:00pm
Lincoln Square Cinemas
BOSS1307A
Several People, Little Time
9:45pm
Pacific Place Cinema
PEOP1307A
14
Falkenberg Farewell
4:00pm
Neptune Theatre
FALK1407A
The Missing Star
9:30pm
Egyptian Theatre
STAR1407A
15
Iska's Journey
2:00pm
Pacific Place Cinema
ISKA1507A
The Bet Collector
6:45pm
Lincoln Square Cinemas
BETC1507A
One Day Like Rain
9:30pm
Harvard Exit
ORAI1507A
16
Delirious
4:00pm
Egyptian Theatre
DELI1607A
Interview
7:00pm
Egyptian Theatre
INTE1607A
Euphoria
9:45pm
Lincoln Square Cinemas
EUPH1607A
17
Nu.
1:15pm
SIFF Cinema
NUXX1707A
Noise
4:30pm
Pacific Place Cinema
NOIS1707A
Frozen City
9:15pm
Pacific Place Cinema
FROZ1707A
Offscreen
9:30pm
SIFF Cinema
OSCR1707A
schoolofruckus
05-12-2007, 02:11 PM
Looks like a good itinerary. No "Broken English"? It's by Xan Cassavetes (the youngest daughter) and is supposedly quite good.
I'm hoping that I found some good independent films at the Los Angeles Film Festival, but I didn't recognize a single title on the list.
wmgaretjax
05-12-2007, 02:19 PM
Looks like a good itinerary. No "Broken English"? It's by Xan Cassavetes (the youngest daughter) and is supposedly quite good.
I'm hoping that I found some good independent films at the Los Angeles Film Festival, but I didn't recognize a single title on the list.
i've heard nothing but bad things about broken english, so i decided to avoid it (plus it already picked up distribution).
KungFuJoe
05-13-2007, 08:56 AM
With the talk of film festival's ... I'm seriously jealous of anyone going to Canne's this year. This is the first year in quite a few where I'm really excited to hear the reactions. I mean, Wong Kar Wai's "My Blueberry Nights", Olivier Assayas' "Boarding Gate" & the Coen Bros "No Country for Old Men" are enough to make me want to buy a plane ticket right now & find away to sneak into these screenings!
No matter what the reactions are I hope these films make there way to the cinema before the years end.
And for those of you in NYC, don't forget about the NYAFF (New York Asian Film Festival). http://www.subwaycinema.com/
This is truly one of the best film festivals around. This year already is set on featuring the new Park Chan Wook "I'm a Cyborg, but that's Ok" & the new Takashi Miike "BIG BANG LOVE: JUVENILE A". It's being held at the IFC Center this year! Should be interesting & exciting to say the least.
Other than that, I haven't been to or watch a new movie in weeks. So, I don't have much else to share.
However, Schoolio ... do you plan on catching Guy Maddin's "Brand Upon the Brain!" at the Egyptian? this is one I'm really looking foward to & want to get tix for.
TomAz
05-13-2007, 09:01 AM
the Coen Bros "No Country for Old Men"
wow. I had no idea that was out there. that is going to be one seriously disturbed movie. The book is essentially one long homicidal rampage. In the Coen Brothers' hands, I can't even begin to imagine.
Outstanding.
T
schoolofruckus
05-13-2007, 09:21 AM
I've heard that "No Country For Old Men" is the best Coen script in ages (it would kind of have to be) and on par with "Fargo".
WHOA "I'm a Cyborg But That's Okay?" is making it to the States finally? I've been trying like crazy to find out when that one will be released.
"My Blueberry Nights" comes out in the US on June 22nd, I believe. I plan on catching "28 Weeks Later" sometime very soon.....seeing "Once" tomorrow. "The Boss of It All" is something I'm hugely looking forward to; it comes out on May 25th. And I've been waiting to see "Day Night Day Night", which is a verite-style look at a young girl's day of preparation for a suicide bombing mission, for ages. It finally comes out next weekend.
Joe, I'll definitely be seeing "Brand Upon the Brain". I was going to wait until they announce which guest narrators will be at each screening before deciding which one to go to.
KungFuJoe
05-13-2007, 10:26 AM
I'm not sure if "I'm A Cyborg, but that's Ok" is going to get an official theatrical release in the U.S. All I know is it's screening in NY at the NYAFF. Either way, I plan on buying a copy very soon. So, if I get it before it hits L.A. prepare for a screening at my place. I have to hold off a little while because I just purchased "A Bittersweet Life", which you also need to see.
I have not heard of "The Boss of it All" or "Day Night Day Night", but I will look into them.
Let me know what screening you plan on catching for "Brand Upon the Brain!". We should get together for it.
schoolofruckus
05-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Most definitely.
"The Boss Of It All" is Lars von Trier's new one....supposedly a comedy. I don't know anything more than that....I don't need to know anything more than that.
If I have to settle for a Region 2 DVD of "I'm a Cyborg", then I will (that's how I got into "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" and "OldBoy"), but with Park's current profile, I can't imagine that it wouldn't make it to theaters here.
I want to know what the fuck Gaspar Noe is up to these days. Specifically, I want to know how he plans on following up "Irreversible", which came out worldwide almost 5 years ago. Since then, he's contributed segments to two anthology style films (which are apparently a really hot ticket internationally right now, what with "Eros", "Paris je T'aime", "11'09'01", "To Each His Cinema", and countless others) and that's about it. Time to get off his ass and make something that's solely his.
thelastgreatman
05-13-2007, 11:00 AM
This is just fucking criminal.
http://www.filmwad.com/fred-durst-wins-award-for-his-film--2338-p.html
"Fred Durst, known to the general public as the lead singer of the nu metal band Limp Bizkit, directed a film called "The Education of Charlie Banks," which just premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival. Now apparently not only is the film not absolute shit, but it's also good enough to have won the "Made in NY" best narrative feature award. That's right, Fred Durst can now add to his resume "award winning film director." Keep in mind the previous film Durst released was his sex tape. The rock star also won $5000 for the film, which is the most money he's made since Limp Bizkit stopped being adored by 12-year-olds
The film starred Jesse Eisenberg, who is a brilliant young actor who starred in 2005's "The Squid and the Whale" and who is the big brother of the Pepsi girl Hallie Kate Eisenberg. Durst once wrote the profound and somehow related lyrics, "All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi Far from suicidal Still I get them tendencies."
wmgaretjax
05-13-2007, 04:51 PM
I want to know what the fuck Gaspar Noe is up to these days. Specifically, I want to know how he plans on following up "Irreversible", which came out worldwide almost 5 years ago. Since then, he's contributed segments to two anthology style films (which are apparently a really hot ticket internationally right now, what with "Eros", "Paris je T'aime", "11'09'01", "To Each His Cinema", and countless others) and that's about it. Time to get off his ass and make something that's solely his.
Hell yes, I love Noe. I saw his short in Destricted and it was OK (an interest set of shorts if you ever get the chance), but he really needs to start work on another feature.
Hannahrain
05-13-2007, 05:26 PM
From Yahoo:
CHICAGO - A girl and her grandparents have sued the Chicago Board of Education, alleging that a substitute teacher showed the R-rated film "Brokeback Mountain" in class.
The lawsuit claims that Jessica Turner, 12, suffered psychological distress after viewing the movie in her 8th