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SojuGorae
03-12-2008, 07:08 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but Spank Rock is the only rap act, right?

They shouldn't really count because they're small-time and they cater mostly to hipster white folks who like them because they're ironic and wear trendy outfits.

There needs to be one or two big name hip-hop/rap artist on the line-up. It'd be pretty damn wild to have a guy like Lil Jon at Coachella. I think a "tearin up the club" atmosphere at this festival is much needed just as RATM and Arcade Fire tore shit up last year.

This year's line-up is pretty boring. The only acts I'm looking forward to are The Raconteurs, Justice, Cold War Kids, Roger Waters, Bonde Do Role, Cafe Tacuba, and Metric.

Or just Bring back Kanye West.

Fuck, I'm rambling on like an old man. Just give us some big name hip-hop acts, GV!

gratytrainridesagain
03-12-2008, 07:11 PM
there is like 5 or 6 biggest name is probably the streets

g0k1ngsg0
03-12-2008, 07:17 PM
aesop rock?

g0k1ngsg0
03-12-2008, 07:20 PM
oh, and the cool kids too.

ArcadeParade
03-12-2008, 07:33 PM
Murs

luckyiam

summerkid
03-12-2008, 07:47 PM
there is like 5 or 6 biggest name is probably the streets

fuck that. I am not counting that as hip hop.



Murs
MIA
Aesop Rock
Little Brother
The Cool Kids
Luckiam
Kid Sister

STALINZZZ
03-12-2008, 07:48 PM
how is the streets not hip-hop?

SojuGorae
03-12-2008, 07:55 PM
I don't know any of them except for Cool Kids. Definitely will have to check the rest out.

I guess I should clarify. I meant a hip-hop artist headlining. We need a headliner.

I just love the idea of crunk being blasted late into the desert night. That would be fun as hell.

But that's just me.

superfiction
03-12-2008, 07:57 PM
I just love the idea of crunk being blasted late into the desert night. That would be fun as hell.




thx for the sig

ArcadeParade
03-12-2008, 08:04 PM
dan le sac too

jonnypark
03-12-2008, 08:12 PM
who needs hip hop when we have an abundance of trip hop

STALINZZZ
03-12-2008, 08:17 PM
what other trip-hop act is there?

NicoDread
03-12-2008, 08:20 PM
Lil Jon? Kanye?

WTF

Memorial_07
03-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Aesop.
Murs.

Now if A Tribe Called Quest was added...
then that would be amazing!

gibsonorbust
03-12-2008, 08:23 PM
Now if A Tribe Called Quest was added...

yes, that WOULD be amazing!

Blinken
03-12-2008, 09:24 PM
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gratytrainridesagain
03-12-2008, 10:39 PM
fuck that. I am not counting that as hip hop.



Murs
MIA
Aesop Rock
Little Brother
The Cool Kids
Luckiam
Kid Sister

the streets are more hip hop than mia

superfiction
03-12-2008, 10:40 PM
the streets are more hip hop than mia

this id agree with

cooperb1
03-12-2008, 10:46 PM
kid sister?

summerkid
03-12-2008, 10:49 PM
how is the streets not hip-hop?

because the fucker can't rap that's why.

TwoToneTronBone
03-12-2008, 10:51 PM
UFFIE

gratytrainridesagain
03-12-2008, 10:54 PM
I don't like the streets either but he is a far better mc than everyone besides aesop and murs

rage patton
03-12-2008, 11:14 PM
dan le sac vs Scroobius Pip is going to be fucking awesome.

STALINZZZ
03-12-2008, 11:17 PM
because the fucker can't rap that's why.

Yes he can. He has his own style, which is unique.

The Streets>>>>>Kanye.

Hugo1
03-12-2008, 11:18 PM
yeah they need some cypress hill in this motherfucker. :)

Grignard
03-12-2008, 11:23 PM
I guess I should clarify. I meant a hip-hop artist headlining. We need a headliner.


VETO!

superfiction
03-12-2008, 11:27 PM
VETO!

unless its outkast. that is A OK bye me

rage patton
03-12-2008, 11:28 PM
I would pissed if Kanye West of Jay-Z headlines Coachella. But I would be so fuckin stoked if Outkast headlined.

superfiction
03-12-2008, 11:30 PM
i wonder if gv has tried for outkast

gratytrainridesagain
03-12-2008, 11:32 PM
I actually had a dream about a week before the lineup announcement that Oukast headlined the weekend with MBV on fri and Daft Punk on sat

Sushov23
03-13-2008, 12:56 AM
The streets, dan le sac, are not HIP HOP. Get that shit straight.

Astrid
03-13-2008, 12:57 AM
kanya. hahahah. fuck that.


outkast would be legit.

NiceArthur32
03-13-2008, 01:00 AM
Cash Money reunion @ Coachella....

every pasty, pale body in the audience would go ape shit over back that ass up....

gratytrainridesagain
03-13-2008, 01:07 AM
The streets, dan le sac, are not HIP HOP. Get that shit straight.

Why cause they're from over seas? If that actually is your reason then add MIA

And fuck that dan le sac is one of the best on the list

nbvwes
03-13-2008, 08:31 AM
Aesop Rock
The Cool Kids
Spank Rock
Murs
Lucky I Am
Little Brother
Kid Sister
Uffie
...and no ones mentioned A-Trak, Jaime T, or Busy P!!!

now, i may be mistaken, but isn't that the most hip-hop acts Coach has had in any one year? 10 hip-hop acts... either way, the starter of this thread is a f'ing moron...

i'm GLAD we don't have some post-hip, over-played mainstream hip-hop act like Kanye... that's what Rock The Bells is for...

although it would have been cool if Cage had been booked...

evilmushroompie
03-13-2008, 08:36 AM
Aesop Rock
The Cool Kids
Spank Rock
Murs
Lucky I Am
Little Brother
Kid Sister
Uffie

...and no ones mentioned A-Trak or Busy P!!!

now, i may be mistaken, but isn't that the most hip-hop acts Coach has had in any one year? either way, the starter of this thread is a f'ing moron...

i'm GLAD we don't have some post-hip, over-played mainstream hip-hop act like Kanye... that's what Rock The Bells is for...

although it would have been cool if Cage had been booked...

Most of those guys are not strong hip-hop names though (not even in the "underground"). I do love Murs though. I was hoping for 1 big hip-hop name. Why the fuck would you want an overplayed underground act?

nbvwes
03-13-2008, 08:46 AM
Most of those guys are not strong hip-hop names though (not even in the "underground"). I do love Murs though. I was hoping for 1 big hip-hop name. Why the fuck would you want an overplayed underground act?

hehe... well played sir.

but honestly, when you look at this year's Coach poster, does it really scream 'names'? i love the lineup personally, it's the most indie and diverse they've had yet... and i'm glad there's not a need for a big hip-hop name... (although Aesop Rock is getting there)

fyi, i always thought of The Streets as playing the sahara, not the mojave, although i suppose it's possible...

M Sparks
03-13-2008, 09:02 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but Spank Rock is the only rap act, right?

I guess I should clarify. I meant a hip-hop artist headlining.

I can't count how many things are wrong with this line of logic.

Everyone already pointed out that there were several others.

Then you said that Spank Rock is the only one headlining? No matter how liberal you get with the term "headliner", Spank Rock is not one of them.

And even if you don't count MIA or The Streets. (I count The Streets, but not MIA), ya gotta count Aesop Rock. And he's billed ABOVE Spank Rock.

The reason there are no hip hop headliners is that IT'S NOT A HIP HOP festival. Hip hop has always been represented, but it's not the reason people go.

Highest billed hip hop acts...

2001- The Roots- 7th.

2002- Jurassic 5- 9th/Dilated Peoples- 8th

2003- Beastie Boys headlined...next one down was NERD-9th. Second day had very little hip-hop on Sunday, though El-P/Aesop/RjD2/Mr Lif/Murs were there towards the bottom

2004- Hieroglyphics- 9th/Atmosphere- 8th

2005- Sage Francis-11th/Black Star-6th

2006 had Kanye in there somewhere, but he wasn't billed on the poster. Common was 6th on Saturday/Matisyahu was 7th on Sunday

2007- If you count DJ Shadow-8th. next one down...El-P-19th/Ghost Face Killah-20th/The Roots-8th

I GUESS you could argue that, yes, Coachella has usually had a hip-hop act in the top ten artists for the day in the past. And if you're not going to include MIA and The Streets in that, there's not one this year. But that's nitpicking. And considering you mentioned wanting to hear some "crunk", I'm pretty sure that's not what you are saying.

I'm guessing you are the equivalent of a guy who complains that there's no rock bands, and when all the rock is pointed out, he says "But Rocklahoma has LA Guns and Poison. Why can't Coachella get them?"

ArcadeParade
03-13-2008, 09:09 AM
If you are counting MIA, then you oughta count Santogold, no?

Andre 3000 performing The Love Below...that's what I'd want.

jigsaw
03-13-2008, 09:31 AM
I can't count how many things are wrong with this line of logic.

Everyone already pointed out that there were several others.

Then you said that Spank Rock is the only one headlining? No matter how liberal you get with the term "headliner", Spank Rock is not one of them.

And even if you don't count MIA or The Streets. (I count The Streets, but not MIA), ya gotta count Aesop Rock. And he's billed ABOVE Spank Rock.

The reason there are no hip hop headliners is that IT'S NOT A HIP HOP festival. Hip hop has always been represented, but it's not the reason people go.

Highest billed hip hop acts...

2001- The Roots- 7th.

2002- Jurassic 5- 9th/Dilated Peoples- 8th

2003- Beastie Boys headlined...next one down was NERD-9th. Second day had very little hip-hop on Sunday, though El-P/Aesop/RjD2/Mr Lif/Murs were there towards the bottom

2004- Hieroglyphics- 9th/Atmosphere- 8th

2005- Sage Francis-11th/Black Star-6th

2006 had Kanye in there somewhere, but he wasn't billed on the poster. Common was 6th on Saturday/Matisyahu was 7th on Sunday

2007- If you count DJ Shadow-8th. next one down...El-P-19th/Ghost Face Killah-20th/The Roots-8th

I GUESS you could argue that, yes, Coachella has usually had a hip-hop act in the top ten artists for the day in the past. And if you're not going to include MIA and The Streets in that, there's not one this year. But that's nitpicking. And considering you mentioned wanting to hear some "crunk", I'm pretty sure that's not what you are saying.

I'm guessing you are the equivalent of a guy who complains that there's no rock bands, and when all the rock is pointed out, he says "But Rocklahoma has LA Guns and Poison. Why can't Coachella get them?"

SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU ARE SO FUCKING ANNOYING. SRSLY. ALWAYS ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW.

Son of MJK
03-13-2008, 09:39 AM
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and ATLiens rarely left my tape deck in high school. If they were added as an alternative to Jack Johnson, then this would make me happy.

Trailmix
03-13-2008, 09:39 AM
who needs hip hop when we have an abundance of trip hop

I do not see a lot of trip hop on this lineup? Portishead is all I can come up with.

mimi3000
03-13-2008, 09:52 AM
Yo Majesty is hip hop...

M Sparks
03-13-2008, 09:54 AM
If you are counting MIA, then you oughta count Santogold, no?

I've only heard one Santogold track, and it was kind of a midtempo 60's Phil Spector style pop/soul track. Have I been mislead? I really loved it.

M Sparks
03-13-2008, 09:59 AM
Yo Majesty is hip hop...

Yeah...forgot them.

If anything, this year is a little heavier on traditional style "rap" than other years. I am not a hip-hop fan at all, but I usually enjoy the underground style that Coachella brings. This year, I've checked out several things that made me think I was watching MTV at 2am. Little Brother, Cool Kids, Yo! Majesty, even the Murs track I heard seemed like the kind of mainstream "rap" you'd hear someplace awful. (Though I got a kick out of Yo! Majesty.)

summerkid
03-13-2008, 10:16 AM
I've checked out several things that made me think I was watching MTV at 2am. Little Brother,, even the Murs track I heard seemed like the kind of mainstream "rap" you'd hear someplace awful.

Well there might be a reason for that 9th Wonder produced Little Brother's albums and two Murs albums and he's also produced stuff for Jay-Z, Destiny's Child, Mary J Blige.

Both are really good though and MURS is great live you should really give him another shot.

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M Sparks
03-13-2008, 10:45 AM
Murs I respected, just didn't care for.

Little Brother and Cool Kids sounded exactly the same as any bling bling, look at my rims, it's cool to be an uneducated superficial criminal MTV group. Shit, the Little Brother song was about- as far as I could tell- what brand of pants you should buy. Maybe I missed the point, I skipped it after about 45 seconds.

I must admit, I'm totally guilty of prejudging by looks when it comes to hip-hop. There's a photo spread in Spin this month that has Flosstradamus, Kid Sister, Cool Kids, and someone else. Everyone else looks cool and fun, makes me want to listen to them. The Cool Kids have got that typical retard-on-Tussin look, pants below their balls, throwing some kinda sign...totally stereotypical. After you hear 500 shitty acts that look the same way, when the 501st comes along looking the same way, you tend to tune them out.

CalmerThanYou
03-13-2008, 10:50 AM
Saw J5 at Vegoose in 06, and holy fuck did they rock it. Them, Del, or The Roots would shred face.

SojuGorae
03-13-2008, 10:55 AM
Any of these acts at this year's Coach would totally stomp my colon:

- Kanye West (Would love to see "Flashing Lights" "Stronger (ft. Daft Punk)" live)
- Wu-Tang Clan ("The Heart Gently Weeps" and "Wolves" live... need I say more?)
- Mala Rodriguez (Has she ever peformed at this festival?)
- Lorenzo Jovanotti
- Lil Jon (Crunk at Coachella? Would be a fucking riot)
- OutKast
- Black Star (Has Mos or Talib ever performed at this festival?)

Just for nostalgic purposes:

- George Clinton and The P-Funk All-Stars
- Zapp & Roger

M Sparks
03-13-2008, 11:30 AM
- Black Star (Has Mos or Talib ever performed at this festival?)

I can't tell if you're pulling our legs with all these "I've been trapped in a bomb shelter since 1998" posts, since you're not a lurker.

I'll be nice. Black Star has played, as I just mentioned. They've also both performed as solo acts. Maybe twice for Mos Def. He pops up on the DVD too.

gmoneyak
03-13-2008, 11:48 AM
Saw J5 at Vegoose in 06, and holy fuck did they rock it. Them, Del, or The Roots would shred face.


You know J5 split over a year ago, right? Chali 2na is performing solo now.

I'd take ATCQ or De La Soul as the old shool hiphop act on the lineup. As for Outkast, i think the chances of a solo Big Boi would be more possible. I think he has a solo album coming out 1st. I'd rather have Outkast perform Aquemini or Stankonia nowadays.

Bring back the Coup..

gmoneyak
03-13-2008, 11:52 AM
SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU ARE SO FUCKING ANNOYING. SRSLY. ALWAYS ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW.

Muahahaha

Stainofmind
03-13-2008, 01:43 PM
Check out Kid Sister. Thats my girl. Shes alot of fun to listen to. I think she brings the old school fun of hip hop from the 80's.

Black Star is the reason why I even travelled across the state for Coachella which happen to be my first. They had to cut them off because they went over the curfew. Mos Def kept pushing it because the vibe was so awesome.

ZackQ
03-13-2008, 06:28 PM
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien would be a perfect add.

NicoDread
03-13-2008, 07:11 PM
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien would be a perfect add.

hell yeah

JClemy
03-13-2008, 07:20 PM
I'm guessing you are the equivalent of a guy who complains that there's no rock bands, and when all the rock is pointed out, he says "But Rocklahoma has LA Guns and Poison. Why can't Coachella get them?"

C'mon dude. Don't you know that every rose has it's thorn? At least we can listen to Dwight Yoakam singing a sad sad song.

Outkast is pretty much all broken up now aren't they?

Sushov23
03-13-2008, 07:58 PM
Something like Murs, Little Brother, Luckyiam, Kid Sister(In a way), dizzee Rascal(would be a great add by the way), now that is hip hop.
Dan Le sac, the teenagers, MIA, The Streets that is more of what I call
Alternative Hop. It's not quite hip hop, yet it's not full on alternative. It's the middle. So no it is not straight up hip hop. Listen to artist mentioned above, they are REAL hip hop.

JClemy
03-13-2008, 08:01 PM
Little brother sounds pretty good. I really like Kid Sister. Pro Nails is pretty bad ass.

I think the addition of hardcore rap would be kinda stupid at Coachella.

cbrl23
03-13-2008, 08:35 PM
Murs I respected, just didn't care for.

Little Brother and Cool Kids sounded exactly the same as any bling bling, look at my rims, it's cool to be an uneducated superficial criminal MTV group. Shit, the Little Brother song was about- as far as I could tell- what brand of pants you should buy. Maybe I missed the point, I skipped it after about 45 seconds.


most Little Brother songs are about being broke... and some foreign exchange stuff live would be great

greghead
03-13-2008, 08:40 PM
I don't know any of them except for Cool Kids. Definitely will have to check the rest out.

I guess I should clarify. I meant a hip-hop artist headlining. We need a headliner.

I just love the idea of crunk being blasted late into the desert night. That would be fun as hell.

But that's just me.

Legitimate hip hop is sorely needed. Crunk is not good hip hop. No crunk headliners, that would be disgraceful to all the real MCs who deserve to be playing Coachella.

The closest thing to hip hop headliners Coachella has had was Black Star when they closed the main stage back in 05.

Murs is the king of the underground movement, and deserves much higher billing than he got.

M Sparks
03-14-2008, 04:51 AM
Check out Kid Sister. Thats my girl. Shes alot of fun to listen to. I think she brings the old school fun of hip hop from the 80's.

I liked what little I heard from her. Missed her last year...she's on my "maybe" list.

nbvwes
03-14-2008, 07:39 AM
I do not see a lot of trip hop on this lineup? Portishead is all I can come up with.

i would put Goldfrapp, Sia, & Duffy in that category as well...

and one could argue MIA & Chromeo as possibly being triphop as well...

nbvwes
03-14-2008, 07:41 AM
Any of these acts at this year's Coach would totally stomp my colon:

- Kanye West (Would love to see "Flashing Lights" "Stronger (ft. Daft Punk)" live)
- Wu-Tang Clan ("The Heart Gently Weeps" and "Wolves" live... need I say more?)
- Mala Rodriguez (Has she ever peformed at this festival?)
- Lorenzo Jovanotti
- Lil Jon (Crunk at Coachella? Would be a fucking riot)
- OutKast
- Black Star (Has Mos or Talib ever performed at this festival?)




go to Rock The Bells... half that lineup was there last year...

this year has 12 hip-hop acts, more that twice any other Coachella lineup... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

(and A-Trak's version of "Keep 'Em High" is bad-ass!)

summerkid
03-14-2008, 11:13 AM
go to Rock The Bells... half that lineup was there last year...

this year has 12 hip-hop acts, more that twice any other Coachella lineup... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

(and A-Trak's version of "Keep 'Em High" is bad-ass!)

oh is that the one he remixes with the knife's heartbeats?

Trailmix
03-14-2008, 11:25 AM
i would put Goldfrapp, Sia, & Spiritualized in that category as well...

and one could argue MIA, Duffy, & Chromeo as possibly being triphop as well...

Goldfrapp I can see as possible the others no way they are trip hop.

Stainofmind
03-16-2008, 04:22 PM
I liked what little I heard from her. Missed her last year...she's on my "maybe" list.



she should be on your cant miss list. I seen her 4 times. she always holds it down.

nbvwes
03-17-2008, 12:37 AM
Goldfrapp I can see as possible the others no way they are trip hop.

Goldfrapp is 'possibly' trip hop? what exactly is your definition of trip hop?

SupaSandeep
03-17-2008, 12:46 AM
I was surprised at the lack of hip hop too... actually surprised they have Diplo but no South Rakkas Crew, they're signed to his label and more of a live act, no neccesarily "hip hop" but a cool raggae/electronic/hip(ster) hop act.. def Coachella friendly and I would think Diplo would want them to promo their album.. ah wells, maybe next time

nbvwes
03-17-2008, 12:54 AM
how can you be surprised at the lack of hiphop when there are 12 rappers at the fest???

idont understand you people...

or do you mean your surprised they didn't get washed up acts like Kanye or Jay-Z?

alex gardner
03-17-2008, 01:51 AM
how can you be surprised at the lack of hiphop when there are 12 rappers at the fest???

idont understand you people...

or do you mean your surprised they didn't get washed up acts like Kanye or Jay-Z?

12 out 150 acts...and kanye is real washed up you fucking idiot. do you have any idea what youre talking about?

M Sparks
03-17-2008, 03:55 AM
I don't get it. Coachella is all about variety. There's a lot of it this year, but there's aways room for more. I think a little more hip hop would be good, and even wouldn't mind a few more country acts.

BUT, they do need to program to their base, and their base is not into mainstream hip hop. There are around 130 acts this year, which means they're approaching 10% hip hop. I would say that more than 10% is "too much" to their base audience.

If all you want to hear is hip hop, then Coachella is not made for you. There are other festivals that are.

I do agree that they probably need one or two more of those kind of mid-level hip hop acts that they usually book... The Roots, that kind of thing. Something that both the base audience and hardcore hip hop fans can enjoy.

I think a BIG name would be a waste of money- the base just doesn't care about someone like Jay-Z enough. Of course, I would have assumed the same thing about Jack Johnson, so what do I know...

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 06:36 AM
''Little Brother and Cool Kids sounded exactly the same as any bling bling, look at my rims, it's cool to be an uneducated superficial criminal MTV group. Shit, the Little Brother song was about- as far as I could tell- what brand of pants you should buy. Maybe I missed the point, I skipped it after about 45 seconds''

I doubt 45 seconds on one song is enough to voice opinons on any group or artist.
Cool kids and Little Brother are totally different.
Cool kids by there nature from the 7 songs ive heard have simple
rhymes but the DOPESest beats. There ryhming style suits there
environment/style and age.

Little brother on the other hand. Almost exact opposite. The rhyming is
more complex, metaphors, similies and hypocritical thoughts sometimes
to raise issues aswell as eyebrows i am sure, and on the other hand
the beats are much more simple mostly consisting of samples. Little brother
make music that is uplifting and enjoyable and most importantly POSITIVE and reflective and try to make it more mainstream
with the more so -beats and not necessarily the rhymes they use.

dont hate on big brother - esp in a thread regarding hiphop

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 06:37 AM
the cool kids also have very basic beats. i must admit
possibly more so than lb

GnarVee
03-17-2008, 06:49 AM
I just want Atmosphere and Heiroglyphics.

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 07:08 AM
i want.
vakill

M Sparks
03-17-2008, 07:19 AM
dont hate on big brother - esp in a thread regarding hiphop

Wait, who's Big Brother?

Obviously, I'm not a hip-hop fan. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on them. What I was saying is, as a NON hip-hop fan, I usually still dig the hip-hop acts Coachella brings to the table. 45 seconds was enough to make me realize I WAS interested in Aesop Rock, El-P, ect. I'm just saying this is the first year where some of them turned me off instantly. I know Coachella isn't dumb enough to book some No Limit clone (sorry, I'm sure my references are out of date.) When I hear a guy write a song about what brand of clothes he likes, I just know I'm not going to like it. I don't care what the music is like, and I don't care how skilled he is.

I also admitted that I was probably unfairly biased against The Cool Kids based on their appearance. To me, if you set out to look like a retarded thug, I don't have any interest.

That's just me, I'm not going to rip on them musically from a 45 second listen, but I can rip on them for being superficially shallow.

EDIT-I'll give Little Brother another shot though, even though I can't imagine how they would win any conflict with me.

M Sparks
03-17-2008, 07:28 AM
This is the picture I couldn't get past...
http://spinmagazine.com/sites/spin.com/files/imagecache/huge_page_view/sites/spin.com/files/0803_chicago_coolkids-large.jpg

Maybe they're just joking around, I don't know, but...there's too much else going on for me to worry about them. I can't imagine a situation where I would have to reevaluate. See you at Aesop Rock and Kid Sister...maybe.

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 07:39 AM
''When I hear a guy write a song about what brand of clothes he likes, I just know I'm not going to like it. I don't care what the music is like, and I don't care how skilled he is.

I also admitted that I was probably unfairly biased against The Cool Kids based on their appearance. To me, if you set out to look like a retarded thug, I don't have any interest.

That's just me, I'm not going to rip on them musically from a 45 second listen, but I can rip on them for being superficially shallow.

EDIT-I'll give Little Brother another shot though, even though I can't imagine how they would win any conflict with me.''


Definately GIVE LITTLE BROTHER a chance.
anything from the 2003 album the listening. majority of heads would
tell you bets album that year certainly if not a classic for the ages.
THough they hardly get play on MTV or Muchmusic (tho living in uk so cant give you any up to date knowledge)etc...and if they
are starting to it might be with songs featuring lil wayne...etc

Cool Kids, i can see how you could overlook them based on appereance...i guess but there a relatively
new group and are primarily focused towards the neweer generation of hiphop fans so they have to maintain some of the appeal from both eras.

but i guess i did the same for soulja boy, as soon as i saw those sunglasses
i felt sorry for him. though i cant deny its effectivness as a marketing ploy for
10 -15 year olds.

But the comment about uneducated/gangsterwanabes was a little dissapointing at first glance of the cool kids maybe-- though the
subject matieral they cover hardly mentions drugs/gangbanging rather what then experiences and interests ---clothes---bikes---girls...

, but on the
flipside- kidz in the hall - ivy league educated - do rap about drugs
and have more personal based experiences and have the clean cut
polo-backpack (kaynesque) look.

as a non hiphop fan, im surprised how highly you rate el-p

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 07:43 AM
the only thing i cant get past is dudes gut in that picture.

ive seen a lot worse tho regarding photo shoots. tbh its not that bad.

ok hes got tight flourescent pants, and the other ones wearing a flag.
..................i dunoo.

see you at
aesop.

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 07:51 AM
from wiki on black mags video

The Chicago hip-hop crew's hard-as-pavement tune may do for BMX bikes what Lupe's "Kick Push" did for skateboards. And the black-and-white shot-in-the-hood video is as low-fi and stylish as the minimal Eighties be

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 07:57 AM
that picture is quite funny acutaly
props for puttin that up

M Sparks
03-17-2008, 08:10 AM
as a non hiphop fan, im surprised how highly you rate el-p

Actually, I dropped in to see him last year and was pretty disappointed..maybe it was the prison uniform and the "posse". I guess I'm a superficial bastard. I just think his stuff is really creative musically. I heard him long before I saw him. Haven't heard a ton of stuff, but I've heard all of "I'll Sleep..." and then a few other tracks-"Stepfather Factory" is pretty amazing.

londontoronto
03-17-2008, 08:27 AM
yaaaa i find it the same, increadbily creative, but sometimes you either
love it or hate it.
ya fantastic damage and ill sleep both good.
didnt see him last year as im a coachella virgin.
my buddies caught him last year at coachella and said he was dope.


i like adele.
is that disgraceful?
i actually think she could be on level if not surpass amy crackhouse.
but thats my opinon.

nbvwes
03-17-2008, 10:07 AM
12 out 150 acts...and kanye is real washed up you fucking idiot. do you have any idea what youre talking about?


and yes, i DO know what i'm talking about mr. 9 posts...

londontoronto
03-18-2008, 05:05 AM
COLLIE BUDDZ
should defffinately be added
would make coachella! seriously
need that reggae vibe

RageAgainst
03-18-2008, 01:06 PM
dude brush up on your hip hop not mainstream crap, lil jon would be a terrible addition,i would like to see living legends,atmosphere,definitly down for lupe fiasco check those names for great hip hop

londontoronto
03-19-2008, 05:33 AM
id say ONE of the below would make a sick ADDITION

redman- good hype vibe
common - always good
cunninglynguists - would love to see them live
Blackstar - they would be fukn classic
vakill - sickness
MF doom - mmmmmmmm.doom

what do you guys think?

nbvwes
03-19-2008, 08:02 AM
yeah...

mf doom, cage, or atmosphere would be cool, but there's really already enough hiphop on the lineup...

londontoronto
03-19-2008, 08:24 AM
why is everyone saying cage.
i mean i used to listen to his stuff, agent orange days.


but is there REALLY enough hiphop? i think there still missing one
with that little something ..... the acts right now are
a mix of music styles/genres
except for murs,lbrother,aesop and cool kids

who can be the tony starks this year
because i heard he murdered last year

whynotsmile99
03-19-2008, 09:08 AM
Blackalicious, Pigeon John, Fatlip.

Saw em all at the Roxy and it was a great show. I can't believe Blackalicious hasn't played Coachella yet

londontoronto
03-19-2008, 09:25 AM
i actually knew someone who was friends with cage.
after he got out of that institution anyways.

High and Mighty ...?
If there still about

blackalicious would be dope.

alex gardner
03-19-2008, 10:59 PM
and yes, i DO know what i'm talking about mr. 9 posts...

how is kanye washed up? because his last album went double platinum in 4 months? maybe you don't like kanye's music, i can understand that, but calling him washed up is a pretty ignorant statement to make. i kind of agree with you about jayz being washed up.

and cmon man, 12 acts out of 150?? you do the math. i would sit and count how many electronic acts are playing but i'm really stoned and to be honest with you i really don't care whether or not you agree. i can tell you it's alot more than 12, and thats probably just on saturday.

i think the coachella lineup is great, but i do think it's lacking in the hip hop department. in 2006, there wasn't a whole lot of hip hop, but the quality was there. we had common and kanye back to back, atmosphere, brother ali, murs with 9th.

this year, there is not one hip hop act even worthy of subheadliner status. here's to hoping gang starr gets added.....

superfiction
03-19-2008, 11:04 PM
and yes, i DO know what i'm talking about mr. 9 posts...

gosh 498 posts?!?! you have like soooooo many

Iamjoeswastdlife
03-19-2008, 11:30 PM
This year's line-up is pretty boring. The only acts I'm looking forward to are The Raconteurs, Justice, Cold War Kids, Roger Waters, Bonde Do Role, Cafe Tacuba, and Metric.

Or just Bring back Kanye West.

If those are the only bands you're excited for, you haven't listened to enough of them.

nbvwes
03-20-2008, 12:48 AM
how is kanye washed up? because his last album went double platinum in 4 months? maybe you don't like kanye's music, i can understand that, but calling him washed up is a pretty ignorant statement to make. i kind of agree with you about jayz being washed up.

and cmon man, 12 acts out of 150?? you do the math. i would sit and count how many electronic acts are playing but i'm really stoned and to be honest with you i really don't care whether or not you agree. i can tell you it's alot more than 12, and thats probably just on saturday.

one... do you know how many washed-up acts go double platinum?? shit, i think Nickelback's last album did that... and in 4 months? for a big, mainstream act, that's not very impressive (from a record label's point of view; most 'name' acts SHIP platinum)... BTW, i LOVE kanye west's music, so don't go there, i just think that last time was good, and would rather see someone NEW, not re-hash the same acts just because YOU didn't see them... besides the fact that Kanye was hip like 3 or 4 years ago... you'd probably disagree with me that Lil Jon is washed up now too...


two... and i believe there are most electronic acts this year than ever before as well (i have NO idea how there gonna pull of Saturday's set times in the sahara without everyone only getting 30-45min, which i know isn't gonna happen), plus the techno/dance acts get their own stage, and hiphop (as well as many other genres) do not... i still think that GV tripling the hiphop this year can not be called a 'lack' of hiphop, if you want to argue that there's a lack of 'big-name' hip-hop, then fine, that's a different subject (btw, i think Aesop Rock, Murs, & A-Trak are all big enough to take notice)... it's like if GV booked 12 metal/punk bands and people complained about a lack of punk/metal...:rolleyes

superfiction
03-20-2008, 01:09 AM
actually nickelbacks last album went seven times platinum in the states alone....just saying.

londontoronto
03-20-2008, 01:12 AM
its not enough, hes right Jazzmatazz, would definately work.
Fine they have some decent mediocre acts, they still need that
something. 1 more SOLID hiphopact, esp since the streets are gone
and there not even hiphop, more garage.
we need that '1 big name act' not necessarily mainstream.
Joell Ortiz
Pharoahe Monch
Devin the Dude
any of the above
one... do you know how many washed-up acts go double platinum?? shit, i think Nickelback's last album did that... and in 4 months? for a big, mainstream act, that's not very impressive (from a record label's point of view; most 'name' acts SHIP platinum)... BTW, i LOVE kanye west's music, so don't go there, i just think that last time was good, and would rather see someone NEW, not re-hash the same acts just because YOU didn't see them... besides the fact that Kanye was hip like 3 or 4 years ago... you'd probably disagree with me that Lil Jon is washed up now too...


two... and i believe there are most electronic acts this year than ever before as well (i have NO idea how there gonna pull of Saturday's set times in the sahara without everyone only getting 30-45min, which i know isn't gonna happen), plus the techno/dance acts get their own stage, and hiphop (as well as many other genres) do not... i still think that GV tripling the hiphop this year can not be called a 'lack' of hiphop, if you want to argue that there's a lack of 'big-name' hip-hop, then fine, that's a different subject (btw, i think Aesop Rock, Murs, & A-Trak are all big enough to take notice)... it's like if GV booked 12 metal/punk bands and people complained about a lack of punk/metal...:rolleyes

alex gardner
03-20-2008, 02:10 AM
one... do you know how many washed-up acts go double platinum??

BTW, i LOVE kanye west's music, so don't go there, i just think that last time was good, and would rather see someone NEW, not re-hash the same acts just because YOU didn't see them

yes, but i think you're missing the point. first of all, i DID see kanye in 06, which btw didn't answer my question which was how is kanye washed up? he just put out a new record, went double platinum, had a SMASH hit with stronger, and you're saying he's washed up?



4 months? for a big, mainstream act, that's not very impressive (from a record label's point of view; most 'name' acts SHIP platinum)

when kanye sold almost a million his first week, it was the highest sales week for any album in 2007. very unimpressive.

Psicosis
03-20-2008, 03:56 AM
we need that '1 big name act' not necessarily mainstream.

Saigon?

londontoronto
03-20-2008, 05:05 AM
SAIGON WOULD BE SIkkkkkkk.
havent heard anyof his stuff in a couple years tho.

nbvwes
03-20-2008, 09:34 AM
when kanye sold almost a million his first week, it was the highest sales week for any album in 2007. very unimpressive.

like i said, big name acts nowadays ship a million units to stores day of release, that doesn't mean anything... anyone with large enough distribution can achieve those numbers (if it has gone double or triple platinum that first week or two, then that would be a big statement, but it didn't, it took four more months for the next million to sell...)

of course, by your reasoning, you could make a case that there isn't ANY acts, anywhere, who are washed up... or have peaked, like Kanye has...

case in point:
actually nickelbacks last album went seven times platinum in the states alone....just saying.

SubBass49
03-20-2008, 01:15 PM
Where's the Stones Throw artists this year???

Guilty Simpson has a new album coming out at the end of the month...

Madlib did some production on Erykah Badu's new joint...

Come on now!!!

Peanut Butter Wolf, anyone?

summerkid
03-20-2008, 01:24 PM
i want erykah badu her new album is amazing.

alex gardner
03-20-2008, 01:47 PM
of course, by your reasoning, you could make a case that there isn't ANY acts, anywhere, who are washed up... or have peaked, like Kanye has...

ok, you are missing the point. i will ask you again. HOW IS KANYE WASHED UP. WHAT MAKES HIM WASHED UP. washed up is someone like a jay-z, who has been doing this for 10+ years, and his quality of work is declining with each release but continues to release mediocre material. kanye is young, his first album came out not even 4 years ago, and he's selling more records than anyone. THAT IS NOT WASHED UP. that is all im saying.

Trick Loves The Kids
03-20-2008, 02:01 PM
kanye is one of the only dudes in mainstream rap who knows how to make an album anymore.

CalmerThanYou
03-20-2008, 02:06 PM
^ I'm really surprised you just said that Trick.

Trick Loves The Kids
03-20-2008, 02:10 PM
I'm kind of sick of 22-track rap albums with like 15 producers and a million guests, Kanye knows how to rock the album format which I really appreciate. He's not a very good rapper and he's certainly an egomaniac but his production and ability to make hot jams AND albums redeem those things in my opinion.

CalmerThanYou
03-20-2008, 02:18 PM
I can agree with that to a point. However, and obviously this is my opinion and i'm not gonna scream and shout that everyone must agree, i think he is a douche bag that raps about how drunk he is, and how it has him saying a lot. I dont like this, and i dont like his shit.

He does make a couple good beats, but his lyrics and overall persona piss me the fuck off.

PS - The new Del album kinda licks, but i think 3030 will always be his best work.

Edit: Eric B. SHOULD come back. Dude, Rakim and Eric B made some seriously dope shit. Also, i think you are a white kid, but i picture you as the black dude in your Avatar. And some gangster who loves electronic. That would be a sight.

bigc1
03-20-2008, 04:12 PM
Where's the Stones Throw artists this year???

Guilty Simpson has a new album coming out at the end of the month...

Madlib did some production on Erykah Badu's new joint...

Come on now!!!

Peanut Butter Wolf, anyone?

im down for PBW, madlib or madvillain would be better though

SubBass49
03-20-2008, 07:04 PM
im down for PBW, madlib or madvillain would be better though

Yeah...but with all the shit MF DOOM has been pullin lately, fuck the whole Madvillain thing...

JClemy
03-20-2008, 07:12 PM
Chad Kroeger could tape himself sucking his own meat sword and it would go platinum. :nono

SubBass49
03-20-2008, 07:28 PM
Chad Kroeger could tape himself sucking his own meat sword and it would go platinum. :nono

horrible...fucking horrible...

nbvwes
03-21-2008, 12:37 AM
ok, you are missing the point. i will ask you again. HOW IS KANYE WASHED UP. WHAT MAKES HIM WASHED UP. washed up is someone like a jay-z, who has been doing this for 10+ years, and his quality of work is declining with each release but continues to release mediocre material. kanye is young, his first album came out not even 4 years ago, and he's selling more records than anyone. THAT IS NOT WASHED UP. that is all im saying.

okay, kanye has been around for seven years his first big break was producing Jay-Z's 2001 album, so if you acknowledge Jay-Z's washed up, your boy Kanye is probably to blame... Come to think of it, every person Kanye has produced singles for is now washed up too, JayZ, Brandy, Jaime Foxx (as a rapper), etc. and you could argue that Common & The Game have both peaked since... Dropout was Kanye's best album and is quality of work HAS declined (greatly) with each release (there were a few good tracks on Registration)... i'll agree with Trick in saying that his stuff is better than most mainstream hiphop nowadays, but that's not saying a whole lot nowadays either, and doesn't mean he hasn't peaked... and you don't have to be doing this for 10+ years to get washed up, quite a few acts peak after they hit mainstream and go down hill rather quickly... as far as specifics that led to his being washed-up, the 'i'm bigger than jesus' and 'i shoulda won this award!' outbursts certainly didn't help... his appearance on 'Entourage' isn't a sign that he's hip or relevant, and now he's coming out with a sitcom (certainly OTHER hiphop acts didn't see a decline when they followed similar routes hehe), he doesn't win even the shittiest awards, he's recording with Michael Jackson for the re-release of Thriller (great career move, btw), he sells songs for Nike commercials, & he PAID to have his mom killed...

but he was right about George Bush...

thelastgreatman
03-21-2008, 01:04 AM
Kanye's far from washed-up, but he's certainly gone from the most promising debut hip-hop album since... well, a fucking while, several years in any event--to a respectable sophomore album, and then a real fucking disappointment this year. Sorry, that album had dick-all worth listening to on it, I listened to 30 seconds of each track about twice and didn't need to hear any more.

Nigga needs to get into another car accident fast.

nbvwes
03-21-2008, 01:15 AM
Kanye's far from washed-up, but he's certainly gone from the most promising debut hip-hop album since... well, a fucking while, several years in any event--to a respectable sophomore album, and then a real fucking disappointment this year. Sorry, that album had dick-all worth listening to on it, I listened to 30 seconds of each track about twice and didn't need to hear any more.

how that doesn't imply that he's peaked or washed up i'll never know... are you expecting his next album to be the best he's released yet?? i don't.

thelastgreatman
03-21-2008, 01:33 AM
"washed-up" implies more about how successful he is than how good he is. He's still the biggest name in the genre this year--three albums running he has been. "Washed-up" is... well... Nas. That's a shame.

nbvwes
03-21-2008, 03:41 PM
lol... i'll give you that...

i was totally looking forward to Nas at Rock the Bells and he sucked so much balls...

dnbmunke
03-22-2008, 03:53 PM
The knowledge of great hip hop on this message board is shit. The crap they have this year is at the very best a minimal representation of good hip hop. Lets get some of these acts:

DJ Revolution
Dilated Peoples
Beat Junkies
Guru + DJ Premier
Immortal Technique
Raekwon.....

Fuck and if he was still alive J DILLA!!!

plus anyone on here that thinks highly of Kanye is a fucking crack whore.
Kanye has sick ass beats and his vocals are mediocre. I just don't think he is that great. He had a lot of help from the Jay-z camp. He had a better PR campaign than most producers. If you put him side to side with Dilla he would get blown out the fucking water.

Shit if you buy Dilla's album right on the cover Kanye, Pharell, and The Roots give him props....

londontoronto
03-23-2008, 10:34 AM
Immortal technique could be dope

dnbmunke
03-23-2008, 10:56 AM
Immortal technique could be dope

hell yeah he would be dope. I saw him I think it was 05...not sure but he rocked the tent! He had the crowd screaming "fuck the police!"

dnbmunke
03-23-2008, 11:08 AM
Also Guilty Simpson, Madlib, Poison Pen, Black Moon, Common...would all be great additions

SubBass49
03-23-2008, 12:00 PM
Guilty Simpson should be a LOCK for this show...new album...COMPLETELY underrated talent...AMAZING rhymes. That dude should be in.

dnbmunke
03-23-2008, 12:10 PM
Guilty Simpson should be a LOCK for this show...new album...COMPLETELY underrated talent...AMAZING rhymes. That dude should be in.

Sounds like we have someone that has a good taste in hip hop. What else do you recommend? I haven't picked up a good album in a while. BTW if you have not listened to J Dilla's "Donuts" instrumental.....hands down one of my favorite instrumentals ever put down. The details are amazing even how he connects the first and last song together so it is a continuous mix. The man was a genious.

SubBass49
03-23-2008, 01:45 PM
Sounds like we have someone that has a good taste in hip hop. What else do you recommend? I haven't picked up a good album in a while. BTW if you have not listened to J Dilla's "Donuts" instrumental.....hands down one of my favorite instrumentals ever put down. The details are amazing even how he connects the first and last song together so it is a continuous mix. The man was a genious.

Indeed.

I recommend that you hit up the StonesThrow website and download all their podcasts (free)...

Then, do a google search for the "LaidBack Show" and download as many of their mixes as you can handle (free)...

I also recommend El-P's latest album...Brother Ali of course...still dig some Atmosphere from time to time...ummm...Talib Kweli's latest was dope at points...PumpkinHead still rocks...a bit of shameless self-promotion for True Light (I did 8 of the beats for his album, and he's got guest spots from Miki Vale & PumpkinHead)...The new Erykah Badu is dope...

Other than that, there's not a lot of good NEW stuff out lately...but the Roots should change that when their new album drops...

SubBass49
03-23-2008, 02:38 PM
QUU0iGeWYUk

Not even close to the best track from the new album, but it gives people who have never heard Guilty Simpson's stuff an idea of how he can flip his words...

He's actually got a CD full of my beats sittin' at his pad...I gotta keep followin' up though...dude is BUSY as all hell...

Dave Gravy
03-23-2008, 03:28 PM
J Dilla w/ Guilty Simpson - Take Notice..........dopest shit ever.

londontoronto
03-23-2008, 05:03 PM
UMMmmmmmm possibly the greastest story in the last 5 years.
vakill featuring slug - fallen

also

vakill - sweetest way to die
http://www.last.fm/music/Vakill/_/Sweetest+Way+to+Die

dude is the TRUTH

SubBass49
03-23-2008, 05:35 PM
All you Guilty Simpson fans should hit him up on Myspace (click my sig & check my top friends for a quick link to his page) and ask him to contact the Coachella folks. He'd be one hell of a late addition...

alex gardner
03-23-2008, 05:46 PM
okay, kanye has been around for seven years his first big break was producing Jay-Z's 2001 album, so if you acknowledge Jay-Z's washed up, your boy Kanye is probably to blame...

kanye producing for jay and kanye's current solo career are two completely different things. jays last 2 albums were not up to par with any of his other material, hence him being a tad washed up in my eyes. on those last 2 albums, he had a combined total of 1 beat from kanye. i guess if you mean kanye is to blame cause he stopped giving jay beats, i'd have to agree.

airguitarvet
03-23-2008, 07:51 PM
LIL' NUTZZACK

SubBass49
03-23-2008, 08:03 PM
LIL' NUTZZACK

???

dnbmunke
03-23-2008, 10:42 PM
Indeed.

I recommend that you hit up the StonesThrow website and download all their podcasts (free)...

Then, do a google search for the "LaidBack Show" and download as many of their mixes as you can handle (free)...

I also recommend El-P's latest album...Brother Ali of course...still dig some Atmosphere from time to time...ummm...Talib Kweli's latest was dope at points...PumpkinHead still rocks...a bit of shameless self-promotion for True Light (I did 8 of the beats for his album, and he's got guest spots from Miki Vale & PumpkinHead)...The new Erykah Badu is dope...

Other than that, there's not a lot of good NEW stuff out lately...but the Roots should change that when their new album drops...

thanks for the info...

SubBass49
03-24-2008, 04:35 AM
no doubt...any time.

normalone75
03-25-2008, 08:11 PM
I think that W.A.L.E. will be added anyone in agreement?

comedeysal
03-25-2008, 09:03 PM
that sounds bout right

dnbmunke
03-25-2008, 10:18 PM
GV we need more hip hop! (good hip hop) see above ^^^^^

nbvwes
03-27-2008, 09:45 AM
if you don't think Aesop Rock & A-Trak & Murs are good hip-hop... then i don't know what's wrong with you...

alex gardner
03-27-2008, 12:37 PM
they are great. but what if there were 40+ hip hop acts and only 12 electronic acts. would you still be saying that 12 is enough??

SubBass49
03-27-2008, 03:20 PM
Plus, that Dreadlocks track from MURS is straight garbage.

If you look back to the last few years, the hip-hop has been MUCH stronger...

dnbmunke
03-27-2008, 08:13 PM
if you don't think Aesop Rock & A-Trak & Murs are good hip-hop... then i don't know what's wrong with you...

uhm no. see above for better recommendations.

Dave Gravy
03-27-2008, 08:22 PM
if you don't think Aesop Rock & A-Trak & Murs are good hip-hop... then i don't know what's wrong with you...

Ace Rock is the only one worth seeing out of those 3.

gmoneyak
03-27-2008, 09:45 PM
they are great. but what if there were 40+ hip hop acts and only 12 electronic acts. would you still be saying that 12 is enough??

40+ hip hop acts would be fucking brutal.

nbvwes
03-28-2008, 12:39 AM
they are great. but what if there were 40+ hip hop acts and only 12 electronic acts. would you still be saying that 12 is enough??

This is Coachella... not Rock The Bells... they have a place for that sorta thing... (although, if if could pick the 12 electronic acts? sure, it'd be enough...)

oh, and your bitching has caused TWO of the hiphop acts to cancel... keep bitching and maybe they ALL will...

alex gardner
03-28-2008, 01:05 AM
lol whatever, i guess im just saying i could definitely live with more than 12 acts. and which fucking hip hop acts cancelled? the streets? give me a break with that fucking garbage, that shit isnt hip hop. whats the other act that cancelled?

SubBass49
03-28-2008, 04:35 AM
All we're saying is that in the past, the hip-hop has been stronger at Coachella. There's an overabundance of what I call "Apple commercial" bands this year (really generic hipster pop), while hip-hop has been stuffed back into the cracks for the most part.

alex gardner
03-28-2008, 12:29 PM
i love how nbvwes refuses to answer questions. he's obviously not completely retarded, but it's clear his hip hop knowledge is laughable at best. i'm still waiting nbvwes, what's the other hip hop act that cancelled?

Trick Loves The Kids
03-28-2008, 12:53 PM
Nas didn't even show up to the san fran rock the bells.

SubBass49
03-28-2008, 04:30 PM
Nas didn't even show up to the san fran rock the bells.

You surprised? lol...that guy is a real bitch about shows.

Dude flaked on his set at the San Bernardino RTB, and he got into it with management & security at the H.O.B. in San Diego...called 'em racists & left w/o playing.

Fuck NAS.

lol

BlackSwan
03-28-2008, 04:36 PM
You surprised? lol...that guy is a real bitch about shows.

Dude flaked on his set at the San Bernardino RTB, and he got into it with management & security at the H.O.B. in San Diego...called 'em racists & left w/o playing.

Fuck NAS.

lol

shouldn't you be :blah ing about Obama?

SubBass49
03-28-2008, 04:37 PM
shouldn't you be :blah ing about Obama?

Shouldn't you be smoking cock?

BlackSwan
03-28-2008, 04:40 PM
Shouldn't you be smoking cock?

classy.

dnbmunke
03-28-2008, 05:35 PM
This is Coachella... not Rock The Bells... they have a place for that sorta thing... (although, if if could pick the 12 electronic acts? sure, it'd be enough...)

oh, and you're bitching has caused TWO of the hiphop acts to cancel... keep bitching and maybe they ALL will...

You are retarded.

What do you mean by "that sorta thing"? You mean hip hop? We all know that RTB is where the hip hop is but GV could have done a way better fucking job this year. Whether you like it or not hip hop is a great style of music and I don't mean that shit you hear on the radio.

Yes this is Coachella and it thrives on diversity. Why aren't you bitchin about too much electronic? There is a place for "that sort of thing" it's called a fucking rave!

therealsp
03-28-2008, 11:40 PM
Blu and Exile. No good new hip hop? Hmm.

alex gardner
03-29-2008, 12:36 AM
Blu and Exile. No good new hip hop? Hmm.

oooooh i could get down with blu and exile on sunday....

nbvwes
03-29-2008, 04:14 AM
i love how nbvwes refuses to answer questions. he's obviously not completely retarded, but it's clear his hip hop knowledge is laughable at best. i'm still waiting nbvwes, what's the other hip hop act that cancelled?

Jamie T, cunt.



the fact that you thought there was only 2 or 3 hiphop acts this year until i told you otherwise, and the fact you didn't even know Jamie T was hiphop, i would think shows that you're talking about yourself there bud... and although I think of the streets as being more electro, they weren't gonna be in the sahara (most likely; but we'll never know now) so i think that qualifies him more (by default) as hiphop... just because they're from england and not compton doesn't make it not rap, asshole...

nbvwes
03-29-2008, 04:18 AM
You are retarded.

What do you mean by "that sorta thing"? You mean hip hop? We all know that RTB is where the hip hop is but GV could have done a way better fucking job this year. Whether you like it or not hip hop is a great style of music and I don't mean that shit you hear on the radio.

Yes this is Coachella and it thrives on diversity. Why aren't you bitchin about too much electronic? There is a place for "that sort of thing" it's called a fucking rave!

hehe, what do YOU mean by 'you'!

and, yes, i DO bitch about too much electronica (especially for saturday, what is that like 30min dj sets or what??), but i don't do it in a "More hip-hop acts are needed" thread... dick.


by the way, i WENT to Rock the Bells, it was fookin awesome! so i obviously like hip hop and i didn't bitch about the 12 (now 11) awesome hip hop acts we got this year!!!

anti-square
03-29-2008, 05:02 AM
Fuck every single one of you fucks if you didn't mention Andre 3000! Fuck you!

londontoronto
03-29-2008, 06:08 AM
Jamie T ISNOT hiphop

i repeat

JAMIE T IS NOT HIPHOP

londontoronto
03-29-2008, 06:09 AM
NIETHER IS THE STREETS.

classified as GARAGE, i.e NOT HIPHOP

dnbmunke
03-29-2008, 12:04 PM
hehe, what do YOU mean by 'you'!

and, yes, i DO bitch about too much electronica (especially for saturday, what is that like 30min dj sets or what??), but i don't do it in a "More hip-hop acts are needed" thread... dick.


by the way, i WENT to Rock the Bells, it was fookin awesome! so i obviously like hip hop and i didn't bitch about the 12 (now 11) awesome hip hop acts we got this year!!!

Thats cool Im glad you went to RTB. Even so you think this year has awesome hip hop? Im confused....oh well.

Trick Loves The Kids
03-29-2008, 12:04 PM
any festival where MIA and the streets are the two biggest rap acts has a hip-hop problem

dnbmunke
03-29-2008, 12:05 PM
any festival where MIA and the streets are the two biggest rap acts has a hip-hop problem

We have a winner!

Trick Loves The Kids
03-29-2008, 01:30 PM
last year's rap wasn't even that great and it was miles above this year. ghostface, pharaohe, lupe, brother ali, the roots, and a few i'm forgetting probably. this year has what, aesop rock, kid sister, and the cool kids? forgive me for not being ecstatic about that.

also i can't wait for coachella to have a rap headliner. if jack johnson can headline then tribe could headline.

dnbmunke
03-29-2008, 01:53 PM
last year's rap wasn't even that great and it was miles above this year. ghostface, pharaohe, lupe, brother ali, the roots, and a few i'm forgetting probably. this year has what, aesop rock, kid sister, and the cool kids? forgive me for not being ecstatic about that.

also i can't wait for coachella to have a rap headliner. if jack johnson can headline then tribe could headline.

Amen to that!

alex gardner
03-29-2008, 06:51 PM
Jamie T, cunt.



the fact that you thought there was only 2 or 3 hiphop acts this year until i told you otherwise, and the fact you didn't even know Jamie T was hiphop, i would think shows that you're talking about yourself there bud...

and this is where i stop taking you seriously. i never said there were only 2 or 3 hip hop acts, you never "told me otherwise", and jamie T isn't hip hop.

Birth name Jamie Treays
Born January 8, 1986 (1986-01-08) (age 22)
Origin Wimbledon, South London, England
Genre(s) Indie rock
Grindie
Reggae
Punk
Post-punk revival


LOL. i seriously feel bad for you. your parents must be really disappointed. jamie t is so hip hop!!!!! lmao @ your pathetic existence.

Kurosawa
03-29-2008, 07:12 PM
jamie t isn't hip hop you FUCKING idiot, and i NEVER said there were only 2 or 3 hip hop acts you faggot ass piece of twat shit. until you told me otherwise? you think jamie t is hip hop you embarrassing afterbirth of a homosexual piece of shit. you know nothing about music man, it's blatantly obvious. you are ridiculously unintelligent.

Quoted for posterity.


What are you, 12? Your grasp of the English language is dismal at best. "Ridiculously unintelligent" indeed!

mssiveattck
03-30-2008, 11:39 AM
this thread blows. numerous LOLZ to the guy who said jamie t is hiphop.

Trudeau
03-30-2008, 11:47 AM
last year's rap wasn't even that great and it was miles above this year. ghostface, pharaohe, lupe, brother ali, the roots, and a few i'm forgetting probably. this year has what, aesop rock, kid sister, and the cool kids? forgive me for not being ecstatic about that.

also i can't wait for coachella to have a rap headliner. if jack johnson can headline then tribe could headline.

Aesop Rock is the act on Friday I am most excited for, hands down, and is probably in like my top three for the entire festival.

I agree there could be a bit more hip-hop this years but Aesop Rock...phenomenal.

nbvwes
03-30-2008, 11:49 AM
this thread blows. numerous LOLZ to the guy who said jamie t is hiphop.
jamie T isn't hip hop.
LOL. i seriously feel bad for you. your parents must be really disappointed. jamie t is so hip hop!!!!! lmao @ your pathetic existence.


wow, that's strange... since Jamie T's own myspace page has him classified as: Rap/Reggae/Punk...


fuck you! and go listen to "Pacemaker"... dick.


and yes: The Streets is garage, EYE wasn't the one who called him hip-hop (he isn't even in the list i made earlier in this thread of the 12 hip-hop acts on this year's lineup), but alot of people disagree and call him hip-hop, but i don't argue with logic just idiocy

dnbmunke
03-30-2008, 11:53 AM
wow, that's strange... since Jamie T's own myspace page has him classified as: Rap/Reggae/Punk...


fuck you! and go listen to "Pacemaker"... dick.


and yes: The Streets is garage, EYE wasn't the one who called him hip-hop (he isn't even in the list i made earlier in this thread of the 12 hip-hop acts on this year's lineup)

you've made it loud and clear that you have absolutely no knowledge of hip hop so quit posting on this thread

JClemy
03-30-2008, 11:54 AM
I've only listened to a few of Jamie T's songs but it sounds like some of his songs are hip hop. Sheila is hip hop. Also fuck you guys for making me listen to Jamie T. Now I'm dissapointed because he's pretty good. I think you could call The Streets hip hop but I don't really care. I'm Seeing Jay Z this year and thats enough for me.

nbvwes
03-30-2008, 12:01 PM
you've made it loud and clear that you have absolutely no knowledge of hip hop so quit posting on this thread

why? because Jamie T qualifies himself as hip-hop?? why isn't he? cause he uses instruments? cause he's from england? are you gonna argue that any hiphop artist from england has to be qualified as something else, because it's not "hiphop"? he raps over a beat. i'd love to hear your arguement on how he ISN'T hip-hop... he's just not YOUR idea of hip-hop...

JClemy
03-30-2008, 12:04 PM
why? because Jamie T qualifies himself as hip-hop?? why isn't he? cause he uses instruments? cause he's from england? are you gonna argue that any hiphop artist from england has to be qualified as something else, because it's not "hiphop"? he raps over a beat. i'd love to hear your arguement on how he ISN'T hip-hop... he's just not YOUR idea of hip-hop...

If you listen to some of his songs it's very melodic and they don't have the rhyme style. His music seems pretty varied. He even sounds a little like arctic monkeys in some of his songs.

You're kinda putting him into one catagory when he is more than that. Also your kinda being a dick about it.

dnbmunke
03-30-2008, 12:06 PM
why? because Jamie T qualifies himself as hip-hop?? why isn't he? cause he uses instruments? cause he's from england? are you gonna argue that any hiphop artist from england has to be qualified as something else, because it's not "hiphop"? he raps over a beat. i'd love to hear your arguement on how he ISN'T hip-hop... he's just not YOUR idea of hip-hop...

listen to yourself you are making things up. Many hip hop groups use instruments...ever heard of the Roots? and who is arguing? Im calling it how it is. Jamie T IS NOT HIP HOP. Give me a name of a good hip hop artist that is not on the coachella line up and tell me your favorite album by that person. Tell me why you like that album. If you can do this then I will shut up and leave it at that

JClemy
03-30-2008, 12:10 PM
I hope someone says Jurrasic 5 and quality control

nbvwes
03-30-2008, 12:13 PM
If you listen to some of his songs it's very melodic and they don't have the rhyme style. His music seems pretty varied. He even sounds a little like arctic monkeys in some of his songs.

You're kinda putting him into one catagory when he is more than that. Also your kinda being a dick about it.

not at all... i'm simply responding to a post in which a person is trying to claim that he isn't in ANY way hip-hop and is entirely indie rock... which is ridiculous... HE calls himself rap!

JClemy
03-30-2008, 12:19 PM
not at all... i'm simply responding to a post in which a person is trying to claim that he isn't in ANY way hip-hop and is entirely indie rock... which is ridiculous...

Yea I get that and I disagree with them too but it's music. It can be anything you want it to be and you can find an element that it fits into any sort of genre. Attacking you for believing an artist is hip hop is kind of stupid because I mean really who cares. Most of the people disagreeing with you say that he isn't exclusively hip hop which I think is a very fair assessment.

I mean the main one to say specifically that you were wrong was LondonToronto and he's an Arsenal fan. I mean everyone knows that England sucks at soccer. Seriously(I'm not being very serious)

nbvwes
03-30-2008, 01:04 PM
[edit] ... check the 2nd sig bitch!

boarderwoozel3
03-30-2008, 03:33 PM
Reminder: This is a predominantly indie, electronic, rock festival. I didn’t go to Rock The Bells last year and bitch about Underworld not being on the bill. Just sayin.

Shooters08
02-12-2009, 10:17 AM
I all about seeing The Knux. They may not be headliners but their sound is awesome. Will be a fun show.

nsilva1380
02-12-2009, 10:43 AM
less hip-hop IMO...

If there are no hip hop bands booked then there should be -1 hip hop bands booked.

nsilva1380
02-12-2009, 10:43 AM
Reminder: This is a predominantly indie, electronic, rock festival. I didn’t go to Rock The Bells last year and bitch about Underworld not being on the bill. Just sayin.

You speak truthful words

lickety_spit
02-12-2009, 10:26 PM
i want to see aesop rock again.

Xenocide
02-13-2009, 01:25 AM
Immortal Technique

BKsaysAction!
02-13-2009, 01:55 AM
Pharoah Monche, Outkast, The Roots, Blackstar, Wu tang or Ghostface Killah, Madvillian, and or Gang Starr would be nice

Jef-free
02-13-2009, 07:06 AM
Pharoah Monche, Outkast, The Roots, Blackstar, Wu tang or Ghostface Killah, Madvillian, and or Gang Starr would be nice

Agreed on all counts.

Common would be fun as hell.

seandlr
02-13-2009, 11:38 AM
I've seen common a couple of times, and he really wasn't all that great. I'm a huge common sense fan (old common) but I really wouldn't want to see him at this years coachella. His new album, I think, is really bad :/

SP The Ghost
02-13-2009, 12:21 PM
Hmm...

Shooters08
02-13-2009, 12:28 PM
I'm all for Wyclef

ELPOLLOLOCO
02-13-2009, 12:31 PM
not enough hip-hop has been the case for a long time...but there are always some gems...at least...

Shooters08
02-13-2009, 12:36 PM
People under the stairs are really good.

daftmonkey64
02-13-2009, 12:47 PM
i had a dream last night that Lil Wayne replaced the killers for saturday headliner, no joke. HA!

Jef-free
02-13-2009, 04:18 PM
I'm a huge common sense fan (old common) but I really wouldn't want to see him at this years coachella. His new album, I think, is really bad :/

Aw, man, you kiddin' me? "Make My Day" is my joint. "Sex 4 Sugar" is pretty fuckin weird, though.