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corbo
06-04-2008, 10:41 PM
i know a couple of you here have your own bands.
post your myspace links here!
as for myself.. i've started writing some stuff lately.
check it out and tell me what you think.
im a n00b so be gentle with your criticism =p
http://www.myspace.com/thebluescorpion
PassiveTheory
06-04-2008, 11:25 PM
I think there's a topic for this but it's buried somewhere between the 50th and 67th page here in Off Topic...
Anyway, yeah, I don't have any recorded material from my prior bands. Cause they sucked.
Currently looking for a DJ partner though.
Pixiessp
06-04-2008, 11:40 PM
used to be in a band called Other Voices. we sucked pretty bad.
BlackSwan
06-04-2008, 11:43 PM
i have been in various bands since i was 14, been working on the the production/dj thing for a while
Currently looking for a DJ partner though.
like to do parties with or production?
PassiveTheory
06-05-2008, 12:14 AM
like to do parties with or production?
Parties first... Then production.
Alchemy
06-05-2008, 12:39 AM
I dabble with music for fun. (http://www.myspace.com/ilovetchem)
Backwater
06-05-2008, 01:05 AM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=2775672
Most of you guys will probably like our stuff. We're shoegaze with coachella-esque influences like The Cure, Radiohead, Pulp, etc.
stuporfly
06-05-2008, 02:41 AM
I've got the old-school (http://www.myspace.com/flotightfunk), the ridiculously old-school (http://www.myspace.com/thepsychoticcircus) and the newer, but mostly just for fun (http://www.myspace.com/chekhovswig) up on MySpace. There's loads of stuff floating around out there.
I am but a lowly drummer, though.
ragingdave
06-05-2008, 01:41 PM
Some of this (http://www.myspace.com/sizenyc) is decent...
Trick Loves The Kids
06-05-2008, 02:51 PM
I make music and DJ. I'm gonna try to get club gigs when I move to San Francisco but who knows.
Does anyone want to collaborate on a song? Like, I'll send you a drum track and you put vocals or guitars over it or something. Completely for fun, not serious, and we can send it to a bunch of board members for their own additions and post the result. Yes/no?
Parties first... Then production.
shoulda posted about this before, I DJ/produce and love playing parties but I'm leaving this town in a month and a half.
PassiveTheory
06-05-2008, 03:20 PM
I make music and DJ. I'm gonna try to get club gigs when I move to San Francisco but who knows.
Does anyone want to collaborate on a song? Like, I'll send you a drum track and you put vocals or guitars over it or something. Completely for fun, not serious, and we can send it to a bunch of board members for their own additions and post the result. Yes/no?
shoulda posted about this before, I DJ/produce and love playing parties but I'm leaving this town in a month and a half.
Don't worry about it, Trick; I still need to learn the ropes, turntable-wise. That's kinda what I plan to do this summer, by basically hi-jacking my sister's turntables and figuring out how to use them. It's going to be a weird transition from bass to DJ, but whatever.
Plus, I mean, I'll be back here next year, and SF is only a couple hours a way. We could make it happen.
corbo
06-05-2008, 03:21 PM
Does anyone want to collaborate on a song?
thats a great idea! post your beat up somewhere...we each do something with it... and combine everything at the end.
ragingdave
06-05-2008, 06:21 PM
Does anyone want to collaborate on a song?
I'm in.
BlackSwan
06-05-2008, 06:50 PM
i'm down.
RotationSlimWang
06-05-2008, 07:10 PM
One track I was working on with my homie that he just finished up. At the one minute mark, I don't give a fuck, this shit RULES. the voodoo - growing pains (http://www.zshare.net/audio/131865728237342d/)
Backwater
06-06-2008, 04:48 AM
Damn homie, really tho, you my man homie.
Trick Loves The Kids
06-06-2008, 01:10 PM
I made a beat, what format would you prefer? I can just make a big wav file with loops so you guys can arrange it on your own?
corbo
06-06-2008, 01:37 PM
wav file is good. post it up somewhere.
Trick Loves The Kids
06-08-2008, 10:45 AM
http://www.zshare.net/audio/13307375aa2eacb7/
it's not arranged in any special way. it's mostly 4-8 bar loops so you can chop it up however you want. 115 bpm.
Mr. Dylanja
06-17-2008, 04:30 PM
BUMP!
For all you guys that use a computer to make beats and what not, what type of soundcard do you use? Or do you use a USB?
I'm building a comp to hopefully use in some sort of production and could use some advice/input, from what I've heard the USB is the way to go.
Thx.
corbo
06-17-2008, 05:17 PM
has anyone started working on the beat Trick posted?
ive been pretty busy..but i'll see what i can do this weekend.
Dylanja.. i use a usb interface to record my stuff. dont really know if having a good soundcard would help with the quality of your recordings... one would think it would. altho i imagine a usb2.0 interface would be just as effective.
but dont take any advice from me..im no sound engineer and my recordings sound like crap.
jazzz
06-17-2008, 05:38 PM
BUMP!
For all you guys that use a computer to make beats and what not, what type of soundcard do you use? Or do you use a USB?
I'm building a comp to hopefully use in some sort of production and could use some advice/input, from what I've heard the USB is the way to go.
Thx.
I use both... but you should be able to pick up a Smartmedia card by JAMedia from guitarcenter
dorkfish
06-17-2008, 05:56 PM
DJ YABLO
Young blood
06-17-2008, 06:00 PM
DJ YABLO!!! yes!
I heard he slays the entire dance floor.
BROKENDOLL
06-17-2008, 06:35 PM
One track I was working on with my homie that he just finished up. At the one minute mark, I don't give a fuck, this shit RULES. the voodoo - growing pains (http://www.zshare.net/audio/131865728237342d/) Nice. Growing pains, even at my age.
Mr. Dylanja
06-17-2008, 11:21 PM
I use both... but you should be able to pick up a Smartmedia card by JAMedia from guitarcenter
Thx Jazz, I was going to get the FastTrack Pro, should I get the Smartmedia instead? And should I get any sort of specific soundcard or will a standard one work fine?
Thx again...
jazzz
06-18-2008, 06:18 PM
Thx Jazz, I was going to get the FastTrack Pro, should I get the Smartmedia instead? And should I get any sort of specific soundcard or will a standard one work fine?
Thx again...
I never used FastTrack but SmartMedia works with just about every instruments memory. I use mine with Korg- Roland keyboards and samplers.
Sonicifyouwantit
06-18-2008, 06:21 PM
i have been in various bands since i was 14, been working on the the production/dj thing for a while
like to do parties with or production?
what is your avatar? Ive seen it before......
hawkingvsreeve
06-20-2008, 12:06 PM
So here is a song we finished mixing yesterday.
The band doesn't have a name yet, so I just put "And Castle" which is sort of an inside joke. Anyway. I play drums.
If you like it, tell your friends. If not, tell your enemies.
The Thief (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6KXDL664)
PotVsKtl
06-20-2008, 01:33 PM
Check out my beats.
airguitarvet
06-20-2008, 02:42 PM
myspace.com/specialtanks
hawkingvsreeve
07-03-2008, 11:40 PM
I figured I would throw this in here.
I recorded a mix for fun the other day. There are some mistakes here and there as I am no pro and haven't been doing this for long, but I think it's listenable. Enjoy.
7.1.08 (http://www.zshare.net/audio/14561138ca37137e/)
1. Klaxons - Gravity's Rainbow (Van She Remix)
2. LCD Soundsystem - North American Scum (Kris Menace Remix)
3. The Presets - This Boy's In Love
4. Goldenboy vs. Miss Kitten - Rippin Kittin (TV Rock Remix)
5. Cassie - Me & U (DJ Eli Remix)
6. LCD Project - Breathless
7 .The Faint - Glass Dance (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
8. Simian Mobile Disco - Hustler
9. Green Velvet - Shake and Pop
10. The Knife - Heartbeats (Rex The Dog Remix)
11. Yelle - A Cause De Garcons (Tepr Remix)
12. A-Trak - Say Whoa
13. Spoon Wizard - Shoe Monkey (Tom Real vs. The Rogue Element Remix)
14. Boys Noise - Oh! (A-Trak Remix)
15. Justice - Phantom Part 2 (Boys Noize Remix)
RT: 1:12
Mr. Dylanja
07-03-2008, 11:44 PM
I'm listening, stay in the lab buddy!
Pixiessp
07-03-2008, 11:46 PM
I figured I would throw this in here.
I recorded a mix for fun the other day. There are some mistakes here and there as I am no pro and haven't been doing this for long, but I think it's listenable. Enjoy.
7.1.08 (http://www.zshare.net/audio/14561138ca37137e/)
1. Klaxons - Gravity's Rainbow (Van She Remix)
2. LCD Soundsystem - North American Scum (Kris Menace Remix)
3. The Presets - This Boy's In Love
4. Goldenboy vs. Miss Kitten - Rippin Kittin (TV Rock Remix)
5. Cassie - Me & U (DJ Eli Remix)
6. LCD Project - Breathless
7 .The Faint - Glass Dance (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
8. Simian Mobile Disco - Hustler
9. Green Velvet - Shake and Pop
10. The Knife - Heartbeats (Rex The Dog Remix)
11. Yelle - A Cause De Garcons (Tepr Remix)
12. A-Trak - Say Whoa
13. Spoon Wizard - Shoe Monkey (Tom Real vs. The Rogue Element Remix)
14. Boys Noise - Oh! (A-Trak Remix)
15. Justice - Phantom Part 2 (Boys Noize Remix)
RT: 1:12
sounds real good. I am enjoying this!
Mr. Dylanja
07-03-2008, 11:48 PM
What do you use to record?
hawkingvsreeve
07-04-2008, 12:40 AM
Just straight out of my mixer into my laptop with garage band. Nothing fancy, but it works.
Pixiessp
07-04-2008, 12:41 AM
I'm still listening. nice!!
hawkingvsreeve
07-04-2008, 12:47 AM
That's always a good sign. Thanks for checking it out and for the support.
Stefinitely Maybe
07-04-2008, 01:43 AM
I make music.
A friend and I just finished working on some tracks, which are pretty different to the stuff I would normally do. Heavy guitars and beats.We don't have vocals yet though. I could post the instrumentals here, though, if anyone's interested.
Nice mix Brandon.
Stefinitely Maybe
07-04-2008, 06:34 AM
So here is a song we finished mixing yesterday.
The band doesn't have a name yet, so I just put "And Castle" which is sort of an inside joke. Anyway. I play drums.
If you like it, tell your friends. If not, tell your enemies.
The Thief (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6KXDL664)
Hey, I just got done listening to this. I'm really impressed, and I'm not just saying that cause it's you.
I have some notes, and you can take them or leave them:
-The first five seconds remind me of "Can't Change Me" by Chris Cornell.
-Then when the keyboard comes in, it sounds a bit like a Coldplay intro
-Then when the drums kick in it really becomes a song of its own, and sounds good.
-The vocals slightly let the rest of the song down, I feel. The singer does not have a bad voice, it's just really unremarkable. It sounds like someone's uncle singing in the shower. Also he needs to be really careful not to sound like a singer doing an impression of another singer. That's the worst mistake a vocalist can make.
-The instrumental with clapping at 2:10 into the song is awesome.
-The only drum part I don't like is the three high-hats in a row when the singer sings "Cannot stay here" at 1:04, 1:08 and 1:12, and again when he sings "Falling again" at 1:40, 1:44 and 1:48. It just feels weak compared to the rest of the song.
-The ending suddenly sounds a bit like System Of A Down and I think that is partly because of the guitar sound but also partly because the singer veers dangerously close to doing an impression of Serj on a couple of occasions. Like I said, he should be away of that.
-Otherwise, it's a strong song, although there's a few times where it feels like it's building up to a really melodic singalong chorus which it never really delivers. Maybe that's intentional, maybe not. I dunno. Depends what type of band you are and what type of songs you want to write.
Anyway, that's just my two cents. I really like it, and I want to hear more!
BROKENDOLL
07-04-2008, 12:45 PM
I'm still listening. nice!! So far, so good! Like it!
wmgaretjax
07-07-2008, 12:11 PM
i'm at the hospital... waiting for the baby to be born. improvising with a DX7 emulation instrument that has full spectrum matrix control of a complex waveform FM instrument built in SuperCollider (look into, the shit is unreal supercollider.sourceforge.net).
The nurse yelled at me to use headphones.
It's only one instrument and all of the controls were done live (SuperCollider has the ability to record whatever sound you are sending out of the server, so it's like recording a live performance, no post). Fun stuff...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X2U5FYO2
BlackSwan
07-07-2008, 12:16 PM
i'm at the hospital... waiting for the baby to be born. improvising with a DX7 emulation instrument that has full spectrum matrix control of a complex waveform FM instrument built in SuperCollider (look into, the shit is unreal supercollider.sourceforge.net).
The nurse yelled at me to use headphones.
wow.
amyzzz
07-07-2008, 12:31 PM
I hope all goes well with the birth, and congratulations! Life will never be the same.
wmgaretjax
07-07-2008, 01:11 PM
I hope all goes well with the birth, and congratulations! Life will never be the same.
yeah.... just playing the waiting game now.
I forgot to mention that the file is .aif so you'll need a program that plays that (VLC and Itunes both do).
PineapplePete
07-07-2008, 02:10 PM
i'm at the hospital... waiting for the baby to be born. improvising with a DX7 emulation instrument that has full spectrum matrix control of a complex waveform FM instrument built in SuperCollider (look into, the shit is unreal supercollider.sourceforge.net).
The nurse yelled at me to use headphones.
It's only one instrument and all of the controls were done live (SuperCollider has the ability to record whatever sound you are sending out of the server, so it's like recording a live performance, no post). Fun stuff...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X2U5FYO2
damn, thats some crazy sound. Are you just using subtractive synthesis? like running it through a filter? or is it granular? i just downloaded it but its all gibberish to me. i get this stuff when its laid out on a panel but working with a whole new language is challenging.
wmgaretjax
07-07-2008, 03:17 PM
damn, thats some crazy sound. Are you just using subtractive synthesis? like running it through a filter? or is it granular? i just downloaded it but its all gibberish to me. i get this stuff when its laid out on a panel but working with a whole new language is challenging.
It's simpler than that. It's additive synthesis.
Do you know what FM synthesis is? Basically the frequency of one signal is modulated with another. This is an instrument that has a matrix of modulations happening for 2-6 signals. So you can control really complex modulations that are interdependent. You can even make really complex beat patches if you want with an instrument like this. Most of what I did looks revolves around a primary signal that is punching through at 10-30hz, sub-hearing. It's modulated by a bunch of really slow signals that essentially add distinct rhythms (with uneven phases so you get prime interactions). Then the last signal in the matrix is a frequency that is audible (through most of that improv it hangs out at around 1200hz).
And when a signal is modulated with itself it introduces a lot of noise, I'm taking advantage of that a lot.
PineapplePete
07-07-2008, 05:38 PM
ah, i see. ya, i get all that...its just a whole lot easier to see when using tangible hardware and patches rather than software. but i'm impressed at how much potential this has. really powerful stuff...is there a tone generator too or are you using a different program for that?
wmgaretjax
07-07-2008, 09:48 PM
ah, i see. ya, i get all that...its just a whole lot easier to see when using tangible hardware and patches rather than software. but i'm impressed at how much potential this has. really powerful stuff...is there a tone generator too or are you using a different program for that?
SuperCollider's core is a huge fuckload of bit level u gens. The generator used for that sample (which I literally threw together, it only scratches the surface of what you can do) is just a simple Sin Oscillator. There are noise generators, complex waveform generators, all kinds of filters, delays, everything in between.
Most ugens in supercollider have help files that include sample bits of code. There is a hotkey (apple shift D on macs) that will let you browse the different classes that contain help files. that sample code is the best way to start tweaking around.
I've used it for live processing as well. For live guitar effects, vocal stuff, and the like. It gets a lot trickier, but worth the pay off to have such low level control of every sound you want to make. There is a book that's a comprehensive guide book (that the creator, and others that are responsible for developing the core classes contributed to) coming out on MIT press later this year.
and you are right, hardware is way easier to tool around with. but if you've fucked around with much, and have a vague idea what's going on. the transition to software isn't as hard as you might think... Worth looking into if you have some uses for that kind of control.
bballarl
07-07-2008, 09:55 PM
I am going to be a dick and start a new thread as well, but I will post my band's first EP (essentially glorified demos) in here tomorrow.
Or now, because I won't be able to at work tomorrow.
Gigasize:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h122/bballarl/Front.jpg (http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=lhw1pbk6v6b)
Megaupload:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h122/bballarl/Front.jpg (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PJSQ9A1A)
sonofhal
07-07-2008, 11:27 PM
I make music.
A friend and I just finished working on some tracks, which are pretty different to the stuff I would normally do. Heavy guitars and beats.We don't have vocals yet though. I could post the instrumentals here, though, if anyone's interested.
Stef - Email me some stuff and i'll try laying some vocals down when i'm back in blighty next week.
Stefinitely Maybe
07-08-2008, 07:01 AM
Stef - Email me some stuff and i'll try laying some vocals down when i'm back in blighty next week.
Done. And I warned you it was heavy.
bballarl
07-08-2008, 07:56 AM
Internet collaboration is where it's at. Except you guys could collaborate in person, right?
PineapplePete
07-08-2008, 08:06 PM
SuperCollider's core is a huge fuckload of bit level u gens. The generator used for that sample (which I literally threw together, it only scratches the surface of what you can do) is just a simple Sin Oscillator. There are noise generators, complex waveform generators, all kinds of filters, delays, everything in between.
Most ugens in supercollider have help files that include sample bits of code. There is a hotkey (apple shift D on macs) that will let you browse the different classes that contain help files. that sample code is the best way to start tweaking around.
I've used it for live processing as well. For live guitar effects, vocal stuff, and the like. It gets a lot trickier, but worth the pay off to have such low level control of every sound you want to make. There is a book that's a comprehensive guide book (that the creator, and others that are responsible for developing the core classes contributed to) coming out on MIT press later this year.
and you are right, hardware is way easier to tool around with. but if you've fucked around with much, and have a vague idea what's going on. the transition to software isn't as hard as you might think... Worth looking into if you have some uses for that kind of control.
ya, this seemed so daunting at first...but then i realized that its just OOP. if you think about it that way, its really simple. its amazing how fast you can pick up on this
WastedTime
07-08-2008, 09:58 PM
I was part of a band called "Sight" when I was at university of utah with some friends, wrote a few songs. Then I transfered to a school in claremont ca after 1 year so my career was over... But they changed their name and stuck around, we visit eachother frequently and remain on good terms(they are childhood friends.) So after my graduate work OFFICIALLY over, I will be playing with them jay and will again, I have some pretty trippy stuff written, just waiting to finish my schooling, which I already have so much money invested in, I have to finish.
Please check it out, I wrote "Tralience" and "Mondsee," It is some TRUE Idm, so let me know how you feel if you're a fan of Idm.
www.myspace.com/mommentummm
Stefinitely Maybe
07-09-2008, 07:53 AM
Internet collaboration is where it's at. Except you guys could collaborate in person, right?
Yeah but collaborating in person is so last decade, dude.
In the future all music will be created by people who have never met each other before and just randomly jam and make sounds over each other's noises, like some giant orgasmic musical wankfest.
bballarl
07-09-2008, 08:06 AM
Intriguing.
BROKENDOLL
07-09-2008, 08:28 AM
It's simpler than that. It's additive synthesis.
Do you know what FM synthesis is? Basically the frequency of one signal is modulated with another. This is an instrument that has a matrix of modulations happening for 2-6 signals. So you can control really complex modulations that are interdependent. You can even make really complex beat patches if you want with an instrument like this. Most of what I did looks revolves around a primary signal that is punching through at 10-30hz, sub-hearing. It's modulated by a bunch of really slow signals that essentially add distinct rhythms (with uneven phases so you get prime interactions). Then the last signal in the matrix is a frequency that is audible (through most of that improv it hangs out at around 1200hz).
And when a signal is modulated with itself it introduces a lot of noise, I'm taking advantage of that a lot.Damn, if you think that's interesting, wait 'til you start hearing the sounds of a baby crying and having a tantrum! (Kidding.) BTW...Congrats again!
downingthief
07-09-2008, 08:50 AM
I've been in a number of bands. Played in front of 20-30k people before, to playing to the bartenders/wait staff at a dive bar. Done the mini tour thing, riding in a cramped van with hung over bandmates, going from town to town. Sometimes playing 2 shows in one night at 2 different venues. Ahh, the memories...
I sincerely admire and respect all of you who are able to use technology to create. I'm just way too old school, I guess. Or, maybe I don't have the patience. I never used any processors for my guitar sound. Love the stomp pedals too much.
Some of my favorite work was in band called "47 Thieves". I'm still very proud of the songs I wrote in that band, even though they probably are a bit dated now (mid 90's). I'll have to load those up one these days.
Memorial_07
07-09-2008, 09:27 AM
I'd post mine, but i don't think punk is too welcome in this board
Courtney
07-09-2008, 09:33 AM
I'll have to load those up one these days.
Yesss. I would like to hear.
thinnerair
07-09-2008, 10:14 AM
I used to jam with these guys. We had a studio. We didn't play out, but once we did have people in our studio and played some of our songs, which were more like structured jams with some parts that repeated.
This is one of those "songs"
This was a while ago.
kTMu7yggs4c
rage patton
07-09-2008, 10:16 AM
I have a band. We like to play music. However, we havent properly recorded any music yet... just some recordings straight to my buddys computer... so I am reluctant to post the link here.
thewindowliquor
07-09-2008, 10:25 AM
I'd post mine, but i don't think punk is too welcome in this board
yes it is.
Why would you even think that?
Memorial_07
07-09-2008, 11:32 AM
yes it is.
Why would you even think that?
my ideas for punk suggestions have been shot down a few times.
and my band plays old hardcore/punk.
and besides that, the recording quality sucks a bit
bballarl
07-09-2008, 11:58 AM
Who cares dude, post your music.
wmgaretjax
07-09-2008, 12:01 PM
ya, this seemed so daunting at first...but then i realized that its just OOP. if you think about it that way, its really simple. its amazing how fast you can pick up on this
totally. and even the language end of it, sclang, is easy to pick up on if you want to create your own classes rather than just interacting with other's stuff.
FYI, there is an awesome (albeit daunting) mailing list that you can check out here:
http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/880
PineapplePete
07-09-2008, 03:46 PM
totally. and even the language end of it, sclang, is easy to pick up on if you want to create your own classes rather than just interacting with other's stuff.
FYI, there is an awesome (albeit daunting) mailing list that you can check out here:
http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/880
Thanks, I'll look into that. I knew taking Intro to Java would pay off somehow.
Mr. Dylanja
07-09-2008, 04:11 PM
I'd post mine, but i don't think punk is too welcome in this board
That's good thinking, punk sucks.
rage patton
08-18-2008, 09:52 AM
Well, my band just got an offer to be on some sort of compilation CD that will be sold at major retailers as well as passed around to various record labels. I have been hesitant to place my bands myspace on the board because all the songs we have recorded are recorded on a mac in my friends basement. It was a few months ago as well, and a few of the songs have changes a bit. But I figure... why the hell not now. We are hopefully going into the studio soon to professionaly record our song "Out Of House And Home" for the compilation CD, and soon after we hope to record some sort of EP.
Anyways, without further ado... http://www.myspace.com/princesssays
cansei de ser sexme
11-02-2009, 03:35 PM
I recorded a CD of covers for my girlfriend in the 8th grade and then my laptop crashed and i lost it all and she wouldnt give it back. It was awful though.
hawkingvsreeve
11-02-2009, 03:40 PM
Ok, Ken.
cansei de ser sexme
11-02-2009, 03:44 PM
wow i didnt realize how old this was. my bad. I found it through a search.
iGz89
11-02-2009, 03:51 PM
im a n00b so be gentle with your criticism =p
http://www.myspace.com/thebluescorpion
"Drowned Out" kinda sounds like it could easily fit in The Pillow's "Last Dinosaur".
lTM_Me312S4
Not that it's a bad thing. It's actually awesome that it does! You have some nice chill beats and sounds. I like Tazumal Interstellar Voyage. The production just needs some cleaning up.
TallGuyCM
11-02-2009, 09:42 PM
I'm currently recording some music under the name Statutory Ape, album art will look something like this:
http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/jane_chimp.jpg