Saw V

[karecares]

How do you think V stacked up in the series? I'm a bit undecided. I have seen it twice and for me the more i see each film the more sense they make in their inter-connectedness (dont think thats a real word)
Watched saw 4 a few wks ago again just to refresh my memory and that did help. I don't think someone new to the series would like it much.



Discuss...




~Try to announce Spoilers for those who still haven't seen and want to~

[faxman75]

I can't wait to see it. I love the series, was going to go last night but didn't. I will see it soon hopefully.

[whynotsmile99]

saw 4 was horrible. they work so much better as straight up torture porn ala saw 2 than shitty detective movie ala saw 3/4.

i'll netflix saw 5. no idea why, but after seeing all 4 of the others, how could i not see saw 5

[rage patton]

I didn't watch Saw IV, and I dont plan on watching V. The first Saw was brilliant. I still love it. Saw II was pretty good, and it was interesting... but nowhere near as much as the first one. Saw III was very meh. The ending frusterated me soooo badly. It actually made me pretty mad. I dont think I will watch IV, V or whatever comes after. It is a shame, because I love Saw.

[sbessiso]

I cant do the torture porn. I just cant and I wont. I stopped after SAW II, that scene where he gets thrown into that pit of syringes was traumatizing to say the least.

[faxman75]

Saw 4 was really good I thought, much better than 3. I just love the torture puzzles mostly.

[sbessiso]

it's so fucking nasty. its just too much

[karecares]

i do prefer the torture porn to the detective movie, i don't think there's been enough bloodshed nor creativity in the torture since 2, but 4 was good imo
but i've committed to the series, somehow i just can't not see them

i enjoy my violence

[faxman75]

it's so fucking nasty. its just too much

I think it's the only interesting horror being made.

[rage patton]

Also I hate the label it has been given, "torture-porn."

[woogie846]

I've never seen any of them, and I don't plan to.

[Backwater]

I think it's the only interesting horror being made.

Everyone (especially rage and fax) needs to check out a great horror movie from last year called Murder Party. It's much more interesting and better than all of the Saw movies and I actually liked the first one. I agree with rage's assessment of the first three. Check out Murder Party, you'll be very glad you did.

[faxman75]

Right on, i'll look into it. Another horror movie I liked was "the Desent".

[Backwater]

The Descent wasn't bad but Murder Party is much better. It's more along the lines of Saw, but it's also really funny, intentionally.

Here's the trailer
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[Pixiessp]

Right on, i'll look into it. Another horror movie I liked was "the Desent".

the Descent was great! have seen it 3 times. the first Saw was amazing.
second one also good. by the third one i was done.

I'm not into torture porn. I hated Hostel. couldn't even watch the whole thing.
too freaky for me.

[Backwater]

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is still the best horror film ever made.

[faxman75]

The Descent wasn't bad but Murder Party is much better. It's more along the lines of Saw, but it's also really funny, intentionally.

Here's the trailer
7mY8oAmj5NI

I'm currently downloading it. Looks fun.

[faxman75]

I watched the original NIghtmare on Elm street tonight, it was pretty funny. Scores of Johnny Depp and 80's jokes were made.

[rage patton]

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is still the best horror film ever made.

My fiancee would agree. And that Murder Party looks pretty cheesey, but its good eh? If I eve see it at the video store, I will check it out. Better than the first Saw? I'll have to see it to believe it. Seriously, the first I saw Saw, the twist at the end was fucking brilliant. Brilliant. I never saw it coming. When Jigsaw stood up and left the room, then the movie ended, I just stared at the screen with my mouth hanging open in disbelief. It was perfect.

[Sushov23]

Right on, i'll look into it. Another horror movie I liked was "the Desent".

this movie was a big surprise in 06. It was 06 right? I had just moved to SD, and I didn't have anything to do, so me and a friend went to see Miami Vice(that shit sucks) and right after the movie ended we snuck into The Descent not knowing much outside the trailers, and I really liked that movie. I need to watch that again, thanks for the reminder.

[Sushov23]

I thought the first saw was a great movie, it was close to perfection. There was that 10-15 minutes in between the end and the middle that KILLED that movie, it recovered good in the last 5-10 minutes or so though.

[Sushov23]

Saw V made 30 million on an 11 million budget. Anyone ready for Saw VI next October? Fuck where can they take it, I haven't seen Saw 4, or 5.

[Backwater]

My fiancee would agree. And that Murder Party looks pretty cheesey, but its good eh? If I eve see it at the video store, I will check it out. Better than the first Saw? I'll have to see it to believe it. Seriously, the first I saw Saw, the twist at the end was fucking brilliant. Brilliant. I never saw it coming. When Jigsaw stood up and left the room, then the movie ended, I just stared at the screen with my mouth hanging open in disbelief. It was perfect.

Well, I guess I didn't like the first Saw nearly as much as you did. I wouldn't call it brillant, but I liked it the best out of the series by a longshot. Keep in mind Saw had a huge budget, Murder Party had a very low budget so what they were each capable of doing was quite different. Considering the meager budget, I enjoyed MP quite a bit. The acting wasn't bad and the dialogue was witty, clever and funny. It had me laughing, in the way that they intended it to.

[Sushov23]

Backwater saw only had a 10 million budget or so. I think it might have even been a lot less, I don't remember for sure.

[Backwater]

Yeah, but compare that to MP's $200,000 or so. I would be really surprised if MP cost over half a million to make.

[rage patton]

Uhh... the first Saw was made for like under a million dollars. That is FAR from a huge budget.

[Backwater]

Now that I think about, MP couldn't have cost more than $100,000. Regardless, it was WAY cheaper than Saw. I mean shit, Saw had Danny Glover in it.

[karecares]

just an aside aqua teen hunger force had a jigsaw like character on that had fry in a head contraption, it was funny

[Sushov23]

see I knew I had it wrong, Saw II had a 10 million budget right? Saw had a little over a million I just looked it up, that makes Saw look even more impressive.

[Backwater]

I thought Rob Zombie's first two films were the best mainstream horror films in the past few years. The Halloween remake sucked though.

[Sushov23]

Zombie's movies sucked really bad. Terrible, it was like C grade/class Saw film making.

[karecares]

i think i'm the only person who didnt think that halloween sucked, yes there were some blah parts but i think he set up the whole background of mike meyers pretty well

[C DUB YA]

I think it's the only interesting horror being made.

It's hardly true horror - it's just grotesque violence in a horror package because hollywood doesn't know how to make a scary movie anymore.

[Sushov23]

i think i'm the only person who didnt think that halloween sucked, yes there were some blah parts but i think he set up the whole background of mike meyers pretty well

Never watched this movie. Too many of my friends told me it was horrible.

[mattpach]

i think i'm the only person who didnt think that halloween sucked, yes there were some blah parts but i think he set up the whole background of mike meyers pretty well

I enjoyed it to.
It wasn't great or terrible.

[Backwater]

i think he set up the whole background of mike meyers pretty well

That's what I didn't like about it. I don't want to know the background of Mike Myers. It's better when he's more mysterous like in the original. It wasn't a bad movie at all, but the whole concept of remakes is stupid, and in comparison to the awesomeness of his first two films, it just didn't stand up.

I agree with C Dub. Torture porn is garbage and it's not scary at all. Regular porn has better acting usually. I don't think Zombie's movies are scary, but they're a whole lot of fun. I like his dialogue. Also, any movie with Danny Trejo in it, is automatically badass.

[rage patton]

Scariest movie I have seen in a while was The Orphanage.

[Sushov23]

The Last horror movie I liked was the descent. Damn, that is a long time.

[C DUB YA]

It was not needed - that is all I will say about Zombie's Halloween, or The Fog remake, or the upcoming Friday the 13th, or the Carrie remake, or the Prom Night remake, or the Valentines Day remake, or the update of When a Stranger Calls or The Omen remake, or The Hills Have Eyes remake or ... jesus they do a lot of horror remakes.

Zombie's upcoming T Rex looks weird and twisted.

[karecares]

i'm going to add those two onto my netflix list

[Backwater]

Zombie's upcoming looks weird and twisted.

Just like his first two, sweet. I'm looking forward to it.

[C DUB YA]

The Last horror movie I liked was the descent. Damn, that is a long time.

I loved that movie. the Descent was unexpectedly good.

I only wish they had a tiny bit more budget, just a smidge. With a few FX fixes and a better actor or two, that film would've go down as an all time horror classic.

The Orphanage was really good too.

I'm curious what horror I own... I will go check out my dvd media room....

[karecares]

It was not needed - that is all I will say about Zombie's Halloween, or The Fog remake, or the upcoming Friday the 13th, or the Carrie remake, or the Prom Night remake, or the Valentines Day remake, or the update of When a Stranger Calls or The Omen remake, or The Hills Have Eyes remake or ... jesus they do a lot of horror remakes.

Zombie's upcoming T Rex looks weird and twisted.
i'll agree with that list of remakes but zombie's halloween was a prequel not a remake wasn't it?

[Backwater]

Zombie's movies sucked really bad. Terrible, it was like C grade/class Saw film making.

All the Fail pictures in the world wouldn't do this justice.

[Backwater]

i'll agree with that list of remakes but zombie's halloween was a prequel not a remake wasn't it?

Nope, remake. In the opening scene of the original he's also a little kid.

[Sushov23]

It was not needed - that is all I will say about Zombie's Halloween, or The Fog remake, or the upcoming Friday the 13th, or the Carrie remake, or the Prom Night remake, or the Valentines Day remake, or the update of When a Stranger Calls or The Omen remake, or The Hills Have Eyes remake or ... jesus they do a lot of horror remakes.

Zombie's upcoming T Rex looks weird and twisted.

I like the idea of a Friday the 13th remake though. Prom Night was the garbage of the highest degree(think Dylanja). So Horrible.

[C DUB YA]

I saw about 10 minutes of the Friday the 13th remake, doesn't look special at all.

[stinkbutt]

House of 1,000 Corpses may just be the dumbest movie ever. It was just a ripoff of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre except with Zombie trying to write Tarantino like dialog but he just isn't witty enough. That movie was a fail in all aspects, although the sequel was ok.

[Backwater]

It was a spoof, not a rip off. You're right about Devil's Rejects being better though.

[rage patton]

Someone post the poster of T Rex here. Im too lazy to search for it... but its fucking awesome.

[Sushov23]

House of 1,000 Corpses may just be the dumbest movie ever. It was just a ripoff of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre except with Zombie trying to write Tarantino like dialog but he just isn't witty enough. That movie was a fail in all aspects.

QFT. A movie ripping off a movie ripping off another movie, which ripped off another movie is MASSIVE FAIL.

[stinkbutt]

I never heard anything about it being a spoof and until I see otherwise I am gonna continue saying it's a rip off

[Backwater]

House of 10,000 - fine, I can at can least see what you're saying there, but Devil's Reject's wasn't a rip off of anything at all. It was nothing like TCM.

[Backwater]

I never heard anything about it being a spoof and until I see otherwise I am gonna continue saying it's a rip off

Well it was obviously intended to be much more funny than TCM. Whether you laughed or not, doesn't matter. The fact is, it's has way more attempts at comedy than TCM and therefore is more of a spoof than a ripoff. I don't remember hearing any wannabe Tarantino dialogue in TCM.

[C DUB YA]

I don't own as many as I thought I did...

not pictured (they are in the dvd player): The Descent, Halloween (Original), Nightmare on Elm Street.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2977505880_e72c80e232_b.jpg

[stinkbutt]

don't remember hearing any wannabe Tarantino dialogue in TCM.

Are you serious?

TCM was 18 years before Tarantino

[Sushov23]

American Psycho is fucking nuts.

[C DUB YA]

The new Zombie poster (version 1)

http://iconsoffright.com/news/trex-zombie.jpg

[C DUB YA]

and version 2...

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/07/30/tyrannosaurus-rex-art-again.jpg

[C DUB YA]

American Psycho is fucking nuts.

One of my favorite movies.

[rage patton]

Thank you for those poster. I hadn't seen the first. They are great.

Also, I love both 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later. After 28 Weeks didn't disapoint, I may have high hopes for 28 Months Later.

[Sushov23]

what is T-Rex about?

[Backwater]

American Psycho is fucking nuts.

Yeah, I really like that movie.

stinkbutt, I thought you may have been refering to the remake of TCM. Either way, Rob was influenced by someone more recent than the original TCM and made his film different, it's not a ripoff. I doubt Tobe Hooper would consider it a ripoff.

Ahahahaha, those posters are hilarious!

[Sushov23]

Thank you for those poster. I hadn't seen the first. They are great.

Also, I love both 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later. After 28 Weeks didn't disapoint, I may have high hopes for 28 Months Later.

they are doing another one of the 28 series? that is good news.

[C DUB YA]

Thank you for those posters. I hadn't seen the first. They are great.


There is a third version too. I have it without the title type on it.

http://iconsoffright.com/news/zombie-trex-action-art.jpg

[C DUB YA]

they are doing another one of the 28 series? that is good news.

Yep in pre-production as we speak

[Backwater]

Also, I love both 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later. After 28 Weeks didn't disapoint, I may have high hopes for 28 Months Later.

I thought both those were both good, not great. Diary of the Dead was one of the better more recent mainstream horror films. I liked the whole Blair Witch/Cloverfield (shakey cam) take on a zombie flick.

[C DUB YA]

what is T-Rex about?

I read Zombie describe it as a Road Warrior meets Hills Have Eyes meets Death Wish

[Backwater]

That sounds so fucking awesome.

[C DUB YA]

That sounds so fucking awesome.

Yeah on paper, will see how ol Robert handles another set of his influences.

[C DUB YA]

I thought both those were both good, not great. Diary of the Dead was one of the better more recent mainstream horror films. I liked the whole Blair Witch/Cloverfield (shakey cam) take on a zombie flick.

Zack Synder's Dawn of the Dead is really good. A very cool take on the zombie flick. Love the lounge version of Down with the Sickness that he included.

[Backwater]

Zack Synder's Dawn of the Dead is really good. A very cool take on the zombie flick. Love the lounge version of Down with the Sickness that he included.

Yeah, I think I actually liked that better than 300. What did you think of Devil's Rejects?

[C DUB YA]

me too, much better than 300.

As for Devil's... better than his other output. I'm fine with seeing just the once.

[stinkbutt]

stinkbutt, I thought you may have been refering to the remake of TCM. Either way, Rob was influenced by someone more recent than the original TCM and made his film different, it's not a ripoff. I doubt Tobe Hooper would consider it a ripoff.

First off the remake doesn't exist like most remakes secondly still a rip off

[JustSteve]

my personal fave "horror" movie is:
http://www.best-horror-movies.com/images/Sleepaway-Camp-movie-poster.jpg

biggest "what the fuck" ending ever!

[C DUB YA]

I have to say I have never seen that

[stinkbutt]

I hate that movie but yeah the ending is fucked

[JustSteve]

I have to say I have never seen that

don't let anyone spoil the ending for you. it is pure 80's cheesy horror, though. i can't say it ever really scared me, but it is a classic in my book.

[Sushov23]

I almost was going to post the ending of that movie, but I won't fuck it up for anyone. TWISTED.

[M Sparks]

that scene where he gets thrown into that pit of syringes was traumatizing to say the least.

Sounds like a "Suspiria" tribute/ripoff. "Suspiria" has a pit of razor wire. I still maintain that the first 10-15 minutes of "Suspiria" are the scariest movie ever, but then it falls off dramatically. (I haven't seen any "Saw"s past the first one, which I thought was OK.)

"House Of 1000 Corpses" was awful, but the last 10 minutes really freaked me out. It had that hallucinatory quality. "Devils Rejects" was a great movie, but not scary. I don't think it was even trying to be. It was straight up action movie.

I'll give some more love to Snyder's "Dawn Of The Dead". As far as remakes go, it's top-notch. I think James Gunn's script has a lot to do with it, and I LOVE James' "Slither". Not "scary", but freaky and fun.

EDIT- Oh, and I had the end of "Sleepaway Camp" spoiled by a documentary. Is it really scary in the context of the movie? On it's own, it's just kind of giggle inducing.

[C DUB YA]

anyone remember Terror in the Aisles?

[M Sparks]

anyone remember Terror in the Aisles?

Wasn't that just a bunch of movie clips? Did people really go to theatres to see that?

[BlueDevil50]

I almost was going to post the ending of that movie, but I won't fuck it up for anyone. TWISTED.

i'm too lazy to watch...wanna pm the ending to me =)

[Backwater]

. "Devils Rejects" was a great movie, but not scary. I don't think it was even trying to be.

QFT


The first 15 minutes of Suspiria are fucking awesome! Not the scariest ever or anything but really trippy. I love all the neon colors.

[M Sparks]

Just the music in Suspiria is scarier than most movies. The first attack is is insane. How many movies have a shot of a plunging knife FROM THE INSIDE!?! And I still don't like to stand by a window at night.

After that, it kind of settles into a study in interesting lighting and set design, but there still some stuff in there that scares on a primal level, notably being killed by the thing you trust the most. The end is beyond lame though.

It sounds like the remake is back on, which seems like the worst idea ever. But Natalie Portman is playing Suzy, so we'll see.

[Astrid]

okay in response to the thread:

dr calligari is THE SHIT

and c dub- go is a great movie. haha.

in regards to saw v:
i LOVE the first saw, liked the second, hated 3 & 4, but i had to see 5.
i thought it was alright, my main problem with it was that it really had no intriguing plot. 1/3 of it was exploration of the previous films, 1/3 of it was set up for saw 6, and the final 1/3 was cool gory shit. there was no real direction or twist or psychological mind-fuckery.

the pendulum was tight though. and i really enjoyed the last scene.

[kroqken]

I heard Saw VI is much scarier than Saw V, but I am not a big horror movie buff. Although the band called the Horrors should play Coachella.

[HunterGather]

Random...

Anyways, I liked saw 6. The Saw series has become less horror and more gory cop drama, but I can't help but see it every year.

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!


They sort of imply that MAYBE Dr Gordon from part 1 is still alive (why else would Jigsaws wife drop off a package at a doctors office...)

Also, Hoffman is prolly still alive. And it doesn't seem Jigsaws wife would carry on his work. She was just carrying on his last wishes.

[kroqken]

Saw movies are better than Hostel movies.

[OCGIRL714]

I just want to say I know for a fact KROQKEN has never seen any Hostel or Saw movies and he's just guessing or going by what he thinks the critics think. He's an idiot he's never seen them.

I think Hostel 2 is better than any SAW movies.


Saw movies are better than Hostel movies.

[HunterGather]

Saw movies > Hostel movies

[JustSteve]

I just want to say I know for a fact KROQKEN has never seen any Hostel or Saw movies and he's just guessing or going by what he thinks the critics think. He's an idiot he's never seen them.

I think Hostel 2 is better than any SAW movies.

my god, you're a worthless bitch.

[BlackSwan]

Anyone who enjoys these movies has highly questionable taste. However, I did see someone mention American Psycho. That movie was good.

[Dale Gribble]

Anyone who enjoys these movies has highly questionable taste. However, I did see someone mention American Psycho. That movie was good.

This.

I think it's strange when people see these movies and complain that there isn't enough plot.

[humanoid]

Anyone who enjoys these movies has highly questionable taste. However, I did see someone mention American Psycho. That movie was good.

I don't understand the appeal whatsoever...American Psycho though, completely different story

[amyzzz]

I only watched the first Saw, and it was horrific. I just reluctantly watched the first Hellraiser movie, and it was strangely compelling.