All I want for Christmas is some dubstep in the Sahara!!!!

[mittens4kittens]

Please?

[flowbee]

Is is it just me, or are people trying too hard to push this on us? :confused:

[crazzz2007]

dubstep belongs nowhere near the sahara. maybe in the parking lot.

[Robototron]

Is is it just me, or are people trying too hard to push this on us? :confused:


"Push this on us"? You do realize that Dubstep is probably one of the most interesting and forward-thinking genres around right now, right? And it's only getting more popular worldwide. The fact that you see Dubstep producers touted around here so often these days is testament to that.

Also, crazzz, why shouldn't it be in the Sahara? Do you not think it's suitable "dance" music or something? Is it not Ed Banger-y enough for you?

[suprefan]

Please?

The Bug is confirmed, be happy you get that much

[Genedefekt]

Isn't Drop the Lime considered Dubstep?

[Robototron]

Isn't Drop the Lime considered Dubstep?

Some of it. Most of his recent production is more Bassline & Fidget (ever since he stopped making Breakcore everything he's done has been pretty much based on whatever's popular in the UK at the time), but he did have some singles out in 06/07 that were straight up Dubstep. I haven't seen one of his sets in a while, though, so I can't comment on how he is live.

Happy to hear that The Bug is confirmed. Given all the hype this year I'm not really surprised that he's Coachella's first Dubstep pick.

[psychoc&ndy]

Is is it just me, or are people trying too hard to push this on us? :confused:

shut the fuck up

[orbit]

You do realize that Dubstep is probably one of the most interesting and forward-thinking genres around right now, right? And it's only getting more popular worldwide. The fact that you see Dubstep producers touted around here so often these days is testament to that.

exactly. it's fucking everywhere, and it's the same shit. only a few producers are trying to innovate and make interesting dubstep. 90% of them are stuck with the same thing since 2004.

no wonder early dubstep producers wanted to keep this on vinyl only.

[Xenocide]

i'm down for The Bug... but i'd really like some more DnB, and IDM...

...i'd also like some hardcore techno, but i guess the sahara is too pussy for that...

[Robototron]

exactly. it's fucking everywhere, and it's the same shit. only a few producers are trying to innovate and make interesting dubstep. 90% of them are stuck with the same thing since 2004.

no wonder early dubstep producers wanted to keep this on vinyl only.

Same as every other genre. It's inevitable, and as long as there's still that 10% I'm happy.

[psychoc&ndy]

exactly. it's fucking everywhere, and it's the same shit. only a few producers are trying to innovate and make interesting dubstep. 90% of them are stuck with the same thing since 2004.

no wonder early dubstep producers wanted to keep this on vinyl only.

yeah, why not bring the interesting 10% then? and like robotron said, alot of dnb, house, and related forms of EDM have the same issue with 90% being boring and unoriginal, but its the 10% that keeps us in love with said genre. so i don't see why there is so much hate for dubstep for a reason that can be said about almost any other genre

[orbit]

nobody here hates dubstep, but don't create another thread about it.

the genre has been overhyped. that's why there are tons of dubstep djs out there now playing crap. and well, 'scenesters' buy that crap. but yeah, there are some good artists out there too and i hope they remain once this hype wears off. 2 hrs dubstep sets won't work in the sahara though. i'd like to see it in the dome, but that's me. it's good to see it's been merging with other (sub)genres though.

[mittens4kittens]

Has anyone in this thread besides myself actually seen a good dubstep DJ perform?

[mittens4kittens]

The Bug is confirmed, be happy you get that much

I totally am! He's gonna blam the fuck out of that tent! :)

[orbit]

what do you mean by good? hyperdub-type-of-label djs? there are some local parties around here, and some of them have been pretty decent. from the known ones i've seen bassnectar playing some dubstep, hatcha, caspa and i think that's about it.

[mittens4kittens]

By good I mean good. Bassnectar is good... saw Hatcha in Denver a while back, super killer... I'd imagine Caspa lays it down as well.

It would be cool if some of these promoters would take an interest in some of the more interesting, diverse cats making tunes right now, like Starkey or Martyn

[Robototron]

Has anyone in this thread besides myself actually seen a good dubstep DJ perform?

I've seen Kode9, The Bug, Starkey, Mathhead, 6blocc, and a few others that have slipped my mind at the moment (those are probably the biggest names I've seen anyway). Also seen some Dubstep-inspired sets by DJs outside the scene. Flying Lotus, Ghislain Poirier, etc.

Anyway, I don't think it's really correct to level all those complaints at Dubstep specifically, orbit. Yes, they're all problems that the scene faces, but once again, what genre hasn't been massively overhyped and overplayed at one point? Or have a shit ton of terrible producers compared to good ones? Or tons of scenesters buying into it?

Also, two hours with the right DJ could be good. I'd never expect a packed tent, but I think a Dubstep set in the middle of the day before all the big names go on sounds like fun.

[psychoc&ndy]

By good I mean good. Bassnectar is good... saw Hatcha in Denver a while back, super killer... I'd imagine Caspa lays it down as well.

It would be cool if some of these promoters would take an interest in some of the more interesting, diverse cats making tunes right now, like Starkey or Martyn

martyn is on fire as of late!

[malcolmjamalawesome]

nobody here hates dubstep.

Speak for yourself.

[Robototron]

Speak for yourself.

Go talk about the Chemical Brothers some more or something and stay out of good threads, please.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

You fucking dope.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

http://www.oliuntitled.com/img/monstapress_comic_dubstep_640xn.jpg

[malcolmjamalawesome]

What he said.

[frozen pilgrim]

Has anyone in this thread besides myself actually seen a good dubstep DJ perform?

thymeless is a rasta bar a block from my house. they've got a 20,000 watt sound system... in a bar. allen&heath xone92 in the dj booth, 18 inch and folded horn subs, and they do dubstep night every wednesday. (other days of the week are reggae, dub, dancehall, etc). I don't now any of the DJs names because they're all locals, but they're always really fucking good.

[mittens4kittens]

martyn is on fire as of late!

QFT, one of my favorite tracks of '08 right here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDo0cCtUulE

I don't care if anyone else likes it, I just want to hear some bass in that tent...

[mittens4kittens]

http://www.oliuntitled.com/img/monstapress_comic_dubstep_640xn.jpg

you sure they're not talking about Aphex Twin?

[mittens4kittens]

Speak for yourself.

Crookers like dubstep :dumbo

[bee513]

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[Ardentbiscuit]

Aren't the Bug and Plasticman dubstep? I like them...

Plus the Bug already has Coachella listed on their myspace page..

Dec 31 2008 8:00P
Urban nerd/Shoreditch London
Jan 14 2009 8:00P
Exit/Hafenklang Hamburg
Jan 15 2009 8:00P
Karlstorbahnhof Heidelberg
Jan 16 2009 8:00P
Berghain Berlin
Jan 17 2009 8:00P
Conne Island Leipzig
Jan 23 2009 8:00P
Bakery Perth
Jan 24 2009 8:00P
Sydney festival Sydney
Jan 25 2009 8:00P
Laundry Melbourne
Jan 29 2009 8:00P
? Wellington
Jan 30 2009 8:00P
Double happy Christchurch
Jan 31 2009 8:00P
Rising Sun Auckland
Apr 17 2009 8:00P
Coachella Festival (17,18 or 19 ?) Coachella desert

http://www.myspace.com/thebuguk

[Trick Loves The Kids]

you sure they're not talking about Aphex Twin?

straight ignorant shit right here

[Trick Loves The Kids]

wtf is dubstep, i'm on the bug's myspace and this sounds a lot like a kid 606 record i downloaded off the internet like 6-7 years ago

[Robototron]

Crookers like dubstep :dumbo

I guess it does suck, then.

Also, while we're talking about him, Kid606 at Coachella 09?

[cubrocker]

ill pass on the dubstep, no thanks. id honestly probably enjoy a happy-hardcore set more than a dubstep set.

[stinkbutt]

I tried but this just isnt my thing its too boring

[Mr. E]

dubstep is ok.... but....not for a party, is kind of funny the videos of parties that have dubstep dj's..people look so bored lol

[Robototron]

IqbShuI71w0

[All Your Base]

By good I mean good. Bassnectar is good...

I'm going to see him tomorrow night, so maybe I'll get a taste of 'good live Dub'. If it's good I'll post a report.

[mittens4kittens]

straight ignorant shit right here

followed by

wtf is dubstep

in literally the next post... priceless.

[mittens4kittens]

dubstep is ok.... but....not for a party, is kind of funny the videos of parties that have dubstep dj's..people look so bored lol

yeah... bored... super lol...

WZEI86BHiJw&hl

[jazzz]

thymeless is a rasta bar a block from my house. they've got a 20,000 watt sound system... in a bar. allen&heath xone92 in the dj booth, 18 inch and folded horn subs, and they do dubstep night every wednesday. (other days of the week are reggae, dub, dancehall, etc). I don't now any of the DJs names because they're all locals, but they're always really fucking good.

I got a Wednesday night here in San Diego as well with a few good djs/producers but now its almost every Friday or Saturday too. I love it.

[crazzz2007]

"Push this on us"? You do realize that Dubstep is probably one of the most interesting and forward-thinking genres around right now, right? And it's only getting more popular worldwide. The fact that you see Dubstep producers touted around here so often these days is testament to that.

Also, crazzz, why shouldn't it be in the Sahara? Do you not think it's suitable "dance" music or something? Is it not Ed Banger-y enough for you?

i don't want to see another Ed Banger artist in the Sahara ever again.

[coldstart]

Isn't Daft Punk Ed Banger?

[crazzz2007]

...i'd also like some hardcore techno...

here you go...

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[crazzz2007]

I'm going to see him tomorrow night, so maybe I'll get a taste of 'good live Dub'. If it's good I'll post a report.

Bassnectar, lucky for you and me (b/c I'm seeing him tomorrow too), does not play dubstep.

[crazzz2007]

Isn't Daft Punk Ed Banger?

are you kidding?

[coldstart]

are you kidding?

No. See their wikipedia article:

Daft Punk is also credited with producing songs that were considered essential in the French house scene. They were managed from 1996 to 2008 by Pedro Winter (Busy P), the head of Ed Banger Records.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_Punk

[orbit]

followed by



in literally the next post... priceless.

your comment about aphex twin was stupid shit to be honest.

[discobotica]

No. See their wikipedia article:

Daft Punk is also credited with producing songs that were considered essential in the French house scene. They were managed from 1996 to 2008 by Pedro Winter (Busy P), the head of Ed Banger Records.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_Punk

Pedro Winter began managing DP before he ever started Ed Banger Records, or even became known as "Busy P".......check out wikipedia's ed banger page, it doesn't even MENTION daft punk.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Banger_Records

[coldstart]

Pedro Winter began managing DP before he ever started Ed Banger Records, or even became known as "Busy P".......check out wikipedia's ed banger page, it doesn't even MENTION daft punk.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Banger_Records

I don't care that much. I don't like Ed Banger or Daft Punk.

[discobotica]

I don't care that much. I don't like Ed Banger or Daft Punk.

http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/digitalmusic/nokia-comes-with-music-crave-2.jpg

[coldstart]

Oh, shit, I'm sorry. I didn't realize I had to accept your musical taste as my own.

[cubrocker]

Ed Banger artists are all very heavily influenced by Daft Punk, and wouldnt make the music they do without Daft Punk

whether or not Wikipedia (THE MOST RELIABLE SOURCE eVaR!!) mentions it, just go listen to any of the musicians on Ed Banger and listen to Daft Punk and I dare you to argue.

[crazzz2007]

IqbShuI71w0

ya, no thanks. there are at least 3 juggalo's in that crowd.

[psychoc&ndy]

dubstep is currently leading a new movement in electronic music that will soon takeover clubs all over the world, and hopefully this will be a good thing. but as with any new genre, it obviously will have alot of negative impacts as well. but as of now, it has already influenced a new subgenre of experimental hip hop/electronica with the likes of flying lotus, hudson mohawke, zomby, rustie, joker, etc., and is filled with artists pushing the boundaries of experimental dub/breakbeat music with distance, martyn, skream, burial, headhunter, vaccine, kode9, mala, and many others leading the way (lol that sounds like 'hot wheels, leading the way!) but you get my point. i totally agree, there is so much bullshit dubstep that is based on the formulaic kick---snare--kick-kick---snare and the lame sounding "wobbly" bass but people don't seem to look past that and seek out some core creative artists... alot of good dubstep doesn't even have "wobbly" bass and is fusing elements of jazz, soul, dub, lounge, hip hop, glitch, rock, and even folk; and any sort of combination of these and more - i'm not trying to push anything on anybody, i'm just trying to invite others into some good music that i really love and feel a good vibe when i listen to it. i feel that alot of people on this board try to criticize others for not liking a certain a style of music. but i think that is completely opposing to the point of this board: to introduce others to some good ass music. all i'm saying is just give it a chance - listen to some of the said artists and then make up your own mind, and if you don't like it by then, then that's fine: to each his own. but give it an honest chance. i like it because i find that some of the good artists in dubstep will fit perfectly in a mix with the likes of leftfield, faithless, thievery co, air, sizzla, and even dj shadow. it has the quick percussion of dnb but the half time step kick/snare of mellow hip hop, and much of it nowadays is experimenting with new techniques and really cool samples. it is good shit i think!

[All Your Base]

Bassnectar, lucky for you and me (b/c I'm seeing him tomorrow too), does not play dubstep.

He has made a dubstep track or two, but his main deal is breaks that make your head want to fall off your shoulders. Gonna be quite tasty tonight.

[betao]

http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/digitalmusic/nokia-comes-with-music-crave-2.jpg

Sorry, but the whole Daft Punk/Ed Banger thing is overrated.

"not liking it" is more of a success than it is a "fail".

[betao]

i don't want to see another Ed Banger artist in the Sahara ever again.

Fucking word. Please keep Busy P and all of his friends in France for a long while.

[Mordecai]

Please stop equating Daft Punk to Ed Banger.

[Mordecai]

Back on topic. I could handle Rusko in the Sahara.

[Robototron]

ya, no thanks. there are at least 3 juggalo's in that crowd.

You're a retard.

A quick Google/Youtube search reveals that Bassnectar has been playing dubstep lately in his sets. Didn't even have to go see him to tell you that.

[Robototron]

and the lame sounding "wobbly" bass but people don't seem to look past that and seek out some core creative artists... alot of good dubstep doesn't even have "wobbly" bass

I like wobbly bass. :/

It's the easiest part of Dubstep for shit producers to emulate, but all of the wobblier tracks aren't terrible. Don't hate.

Also, I kind of agree with you that for a massive festival where it's so easy for most people to find new artists, a lot of people here are really slow to enjoy new artists. Just look at the Sahara 09 prediction thread. They'll probably come around once Coachella 09 rolls around, The Bug kills it in the Sahara and becomes everyone's favorite "find" of 09, and Dubstep becomes the new Electro House (on this board).

[Mordecai]

Dubstep done well is f'ing sweet.

http://www.discobelle.net/2008/12/14/rusko-essential-mix/

QFT

I am also interested to see what The Bug can do in the Sahara.

[Mordecai]

That being said, a lot of it is shit.

http://www.oliuntitled.com/img/monstapress_comic_dubstep_640xn.jpg

And this is the funniest cartoon ever.

[betao]

Please stop equating Daft Punk to Ed Banger.

While Daft isn't quite as bad as Ed Banger, they're still fairly overrated.

[Mordecai]

While Daft isn't quite as bad as Ed Banger, they're still fairly overrated.

But I asked you so nicely .....

[coldstart]

Way overrated.

[Mordecai]

No. See their wikipedia article:

Daft Punk is also credited with producing songs that were considered essential in the French house scene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_Punk

Your wiki reference tends to disagree with you.

As do I.

But to each their own.

[betao]

But I asked you so nicely .....

That you did. You even said the "p" word. Hats off, sir.

[coldstart]

Your wiki reference tends to disagree with you.

As do I.

But to each their own.

Ok? You edited out the key part when you quoted me. In any case, as I said, I don't really care about Daft Punk or Ed Banger. I tend to like good electronic music.

[Mordecai]

Ok? You edited out the key part when you quoted me. In any case, as I said, I don't really care about Daft Punk or Ed Banger. I tend to like good electronic music.

I quoted specifically the part in which you contradicted yourself. Deleting the second sentence does not change my point in the slightest.

But enough hijacking.

Dubstep. Is it shit or is it the next big thing? Continue discussion.

[All Your Base]

I tend to agree with the sentiment that big festivals like chella are great for big-name, well known artists, but also for completely new shit that some folks might not get exposed to otherwise. There's definitely room for a dubstep act or two at chella, regardless of which stage they're on. Sahara is just where this kind of stuff usually goes and (most would argue) where it belongs.

Open your minds people.

[PC-2 Violence]

Please?

I asked Caspa a month ago if he was playing coachella and he said he did not even know what Coachella was.

I am really feelin Rusko's essential mix except for like 2 two tracks that derail the whole mix, but are useful at the same time.

[PC-2 Violence]

http://www.newmixes.com/rusko-essential_mix-sat-12-13-2008.html

i didnt see the track list before i listened to the whole thing but besides the katy perry its a dope mix.

[mittens4kittens]

I asked Caspa a month ago if he was playing coachella and he said he did not even know what Coachella was.

I am really feelin Rusko's essential mix except for like 2 two tracks that derail the whole mix, but are useful at the same time.

Yeah they're playing at fabric that weekend unfortunately :(

Rusko would fucking destroy that place. People wouldn't even know what to do either. The heads who know would mashing out in the front for sure, but probably a lot of the house heads would be like "what the hell is this."

I just got out of a dubstep show, if you've never experienced it please don't hate on it.

Bug is going to show some people a thing or two...