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Thief of Fire
08-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Tonight Stephen Colbert did his 'Word' segment about Woodstock and made a few Coachella jokes... something about the Coachella iPhone app (that 'makes you forget you paid $269 to see Henry Rollins do spoken word') and a bit on the 'naked wizard' guy

Anyone else catch this?

CalmerThanYou
08-04-2009, 10:50 PM
didnt see it, but makes me wonder if he was lurking amongst us...

(i know, i know, he doesnt write that shit himself)

speaking of which, we have a head writer of the craig ferguson show amongst us, however i can never divulge whom.

Still-ill
08-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Yes, you can.

SoulDischarge
08-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Is it cloud9?

PassiveTheory
08-04-2009, 10:54 PM
Clearly it's Colorado Ron. It's no use trying to hide that old trade secret that all old British Comedians are merely fronts for aged liberal hippies.

matsuolost
08-04-2009, 10:58 PM
pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.

nbvcide
08-04-2009, 11:01 PM
yeah, caught the segment, it was like 2 1/2 minutes on Coachella, the only festival he mentioned when talking about the modern equivalent of Woodstock..

he mentioned Coachella about a half dozen times last march/april, but this large segment (esp the naked wizard bit), coming in august, makes me think that one of his writers is def a huge coachellite..

slurpee
08-04-2009, 11:07 PM
Maybe they are on the message board reading this too ....

BlackSwan
08-04-2009, 11:18 PM
speaking of which, we have a head writer of the craig ferguson show amongst us, however i can never divulge whom.

I can understand why someone wouldn't want to admit that... I would be ashamed too.

Sleepingrock
08-04-2009, 11:27 PM
Maybe they are on the message board reading this too ....

Maybe there are cameras on every street corner?


Maybe we are all part of big brother

real talk
08-04-2009, 11:29 PM
No one involved in research for comedy writing would bother with this forum. Unless they planned to mock you.

JustSteve
08-04-2009, 11:33 PM
didnt see it, but makes me wonder if he was lurking amongst us...

(i know, i know, he doesnt write that shit himself)

speaking of which, we have a head writer of the craig ferguson show amongst us, however i can never divulge whom.

really? my dad is good friends with the guy who does the sound for that show...time to go sherlock.

dorkfish
08-05-2009, 12:09 AM
Writer

* Julius Sharpe
Supervising Writer
* Ross Abrash
Writer
* Peter Charkalis
Writer
* Chris De Luca
Writer
* Kip Madsen
Writer
* Joe Strazzullo
Writer
* Ned Rice
Writer
* Craig Ferguson
Writer
* Hugh Fink
Head Writer
* Mike Armstrong
Head Writer
* David Nickoll
Writer
* David Harte
Writer
* Jeff Martin
Writer
* Phillip McGrade
Writer
* Joe O'Brien
Writer
* Joe Reynolds
Writer
* ben stout
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* Tom Straw
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* Jonathan Morano
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* Ted Mulkerin
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* Randy Kagan
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* John Reynolds
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nbvcide
08-05-2009, 12:23 AM
Maybe they are on the message board reading this too ....
if so, keep up the coachella references on the colbert report...
i LOVED tonight's ep!


and get me booked as a guest on the show!!

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 07:37 AM
Tom Straw....Jackstraw?

fatbastard
08-05-2009, 07:43 AM
Randy?

frozen pilgrim
08-05-2009, 07:53 AM
Randy?

that would explain a lot

kitt kat
08-05-2009, 08:41 AM
speaking of which, we have a head writer of the craig ferguson show amongst us, however i can never divulge whom.

Wait. What?

I demand they reveal themselves to me....


....because I'm really starting to loathe this $200k screenwriting degree that's not going to get me a job in the next 9 months before I graduate.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure it's not Randy, from that list of names.

djandrews25
08-05-2009, 08:44 AM
What was the word that they used for the segment? Or does anyone have a link for a youtube?

Young blood
08-05-2009, 08:44 AM
Wait. What?

I demand they reveal themselves to me....


....because I'm really starting to loathe this $200k screenwriting degree that's not going to get me a job in the next 9 months before I graduate.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure it's not Randy, from that list of names.


way to throw in the part about yourself.

RotationSlimWang
08-05-2009, 08:46 AM
Wait. What?

I demand they reveal themselves to me....


....because I'm really starting to loathe this $200k screenwriting degree that's not going to get me a job in the next 9 months before I graduate.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure it's not Randy, from that list of names.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, 200 thousand dollars on a fucking screenwriting degree?

kitt kat
08-05-2009, 09:00 AM
$50k yr x 4 years = $200k

stupidest thing i ever did, and by the time i wanted out, it was too late.

Alchemy
08-05-2009, 09:03 AM
Seriously Kitt Kat, what the hell kind of degree is that? My MFA will cost less than that, and its from a private school.

TommyboyUNM
08-05-2009, 09:06 AM
$50k yr x 4 years = $200k

stupidest thing i ever did, and by the time i wanted out, it was too late.

How did you think it was a good idea before you did it? Are you paying back loans on that? Or did mommy and daddy pay for it?

Alchemy
08-05-2009, 09:07 AM
That screenwriting degree better have come with sex.

BlackSwan
08-05-2009, 09:19 AM
Ahahahahaa... $50k a year? That is what you get for not being able to get into a good school.

Alchemy
08-05-2009, 09:33 AM
I think a screenwriting degree at UTEP costs about $70k in four years.

Also in Texas, there is the Texas Tomorrow Fund, and if you have that, all you're really paying for are books and extras.

Not to mention there are scholarships and financial aid.

zenidogx
08-05-2009, 09:44 AM
....because I'm really starting to loathe this $200k screenwriting degree that's not going to get me a job in the next 9 months before I graduate.


Hahahahahahahahahahaha, 200 thousand dollars on a fucking screenwriting degree?

You guys should write a movie together. Perhaps something about two people from different parts of the country trying to make it in LA. Since Kat embodies everything Randy hates about the city, I think we got the next great buddy comedy potentially in the works. Write something for Luis Guzman and I'll be seeing you on the set as his stand in.

SoulDischarge
08-05-2009, 09:45 AM
I spent a similar amount on film school. Although that includes money spent on rent, food, gas, phone bills, booze, coke, trips to San Francisco, concert/festival tickets, funding for student films, etc.

Alchemy
08-05-2009, 09:46 AM
I spent a similar amount on film school. Although that includes money spent on rent, food, gas, phone bills, booze, coke, trips to San Francisco, concert/festival tickets, funding for student films, etc.

That's not money spent on film school. That's money spent on life.

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 09:54 AM
Christ almighty; you're not going to Harvard for fucks sake.

luckyface
08-05-2009, 09:59 AM
Wow, a lot of you guys are judgmental assholes.

SoulDischarge
08-05-2009, 10:00 AM
Here's a fun little look at the school I (and apparently whynotsmile99) attended: http://www.stateuniversity.com/universities/CA/Brooks_Institute_of_Photography.html

Another fun fact: Some students successfully sued the school because recruiters misrepresented the success rate and job opportunities after graduation.

amyzzz
08-05-2009, 10:59 AM
Go sue your school.

psychic friend
08-05-2009, 11:27 AM
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/240728/august-04-2009/the-word---hippie-replacement

djandrews25
08-05-2009, 11:38 AM
Wow, a lot of you guys are judgmental assholes.

You are just learning this?

djandrews25
08-05-2009, 11:41 AM
Thanks PF

BlackSwan
08-05-2009, 12:18 PM
Wow, a lot of you guys are judgmental assholes.

Don't judge us!

kitt kat
08-05-2009, 01:37 PM
Fuck you all. Whoever made the Harvard comment---Harvard doesn't cost 50k because Harvard isn't in LOS FUCKING ANGELES. The costs of living can't even compare. Straight up tuition-wise, Harvard charges more, so fuck you.


I don't know why the 50k a year is so shocking to everyone; that's how much most PRIVATE universities cost nowadays. It's not like I'm going to Cal State LA or something.

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 01:40 PM
Ahem.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/captncrzy/harvard.jpg



http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/captncrzy/citylist.jpg


Dumbass

woogie846
08-05-2009, 01:42 PM
I could see Jon sending out a correspondent to do a special report on Coachella next year.

Young blood
08-05-2009, 01:43 PM
Ahem.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/captncrzy/harvard.jpg



http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html


Dumbass

Come on now. Screenwriting, not math.

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 01:45 PM
Come on now. Screenwriting, not math.

I guess if she were getting a math education she would know that Harvard is more expensive.

Dale Gribble
08-05-2009, 01:46 PM
I could see Jon sending out a correspondent to do a special report on Coachella next year.

That would be pretty awesome.

kitt kat
08-05-2009, 01:51 PM
Ahem.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/captncrzy/harvard.jpg



http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html


Dumbass

Have you never gone to college before? Half that shit is estimated. Health fees/insurance fees usually are waived if your parents provide adequate proof of coverage, room/board is calculated for those who live in university house (usually more expensive, but what senior would live in a college dorm?).

Also, I have no clue what you were actually trying to prove in posting that. You did no side by side comparison between my school and Harvard, but just posted a Harvard screenshot. You know what? USC says over $50k too, but like I said before, they're estimations. On average, over the past three years, with all my expenses, everything has worked out to about $45k to $52k, depending. $50k is a number my family uses to cover the discrepancies. You were just trying to make yourself look "resourceful," I'm assuming.

Oh, and I may not be a math major, but I sure think $53k is a lot more than $52k, estimations aside: http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/applying_receiving/undergraduates/costs.html

My god, you and everyone else here constantly look for fucking excuses to make fun of me. You all are fucking ADULTS! Most of you are old enough to be my parents! I bet half of you morons would be appalled if another grown adult was poking fun at your child/your niece or nephew/your grandkid/etc on the internet, let alone in real life. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean shit like this flies.

And you all have successfully derailed the thread in addition to proving to me that adults who frequent internet message boards and do so to pick on others are just miserable fat fucks with nothing better to do during the day and, thus, driving me away from this miserable lot once and for all. CONGRATULATIONS! YOU WIN!

Courtney
08-05-2009, 01:52 PM
School is expensive. But if you can afford it, and you're getting a good education, I can't think of a better thing to spend money on.

Young blood
08-05-2009, 01:53 PM
Come on don't go. I've got candy and a puppppppyyyyy......


and im only 10 pounds over weight so that was flawed too.

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 01:57 PM
Fuck you all. Whoever made the Harvard comment---Harvard doesn't cost 50k because Harvard isn't in LOS FUCKING ANGELES. The costs of living can't even compare. Straight up tuition-wise, Harvard charges more, so fuck you.



I was simply disproving this comment you made.

Yes, I have a degree. I also was a training manager for a student loan company and had access to every accredited university's estimated COA.
Harvard was always the most expensive school on that list.

Also, you brought it up...

Wait. What?

I demand they reveal themselves to me....


....because I'm really starting to loathe this $200k screenwriting degree that's not going to get me a job in the next 9 months before I graduate.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure it's not Randy, from that list of names.

psycobetabuckdown
08-05-2009, 01:58 PM
i thought harvard was in cambridge, not boston...

kat, you getting so friggin angry i think is a sign you spend way too much time on here as well

Young blood
08-05-2009, 01:59 PM
Bye KittKatt <3 I wont forget you.

http://www.alphacall.com.au/goodbye.gif

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 01:59 PM
I was just at Harvard for a seminar; it's not downtown Boston but it's only about a 15 minute cab ride from Boston Logan.


Funnily enough, if you google cost of attendance for USC, it appears that their tuition is more than Harvard's tuition, but Harvard's COA is more. That's really goddamn funny.

amyzzz
08-05-2009, 02:06 PM
People from the East don't seem to like those locality generalizations all that much.

PotVsKtl
08-05-2009, 02:14 PM
If you're paying $200k for a screenwriting degree you ought be shot in your stupid fucking face and rapefucked. God damn you're a shitty whore.

PotVsKtl
08-05-2009, 02:16 PM
Of course we all know that you're not paying for anything, so that's cool. Your parents are going to despise you for the rest of your life.

Alchemy
08-05-2009, 02:16 PM
My god, you and everyone else here constantly look for fucking excuses to make fun of me. You all are fucking ADULTS! Most of you are old enough to be my parents! I bet half of you morons would be appalled if another grown adult was poking fun at your child/your niece or nephew/your grandkid/etc on the internet, let alone in real life. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean shit like this flies.

And you all have successfully derailed the thread in addition to proving to me that adults who frequent internet message boards and do so to pick on others are just miserable fat fucks with nothing better to do during the day and, thus, driving me away from this miserable lot once and for all. CONGRATULATIONS! YOU WIN!

Hey, I'm just saying 200k is a hell of a lot of money for a screenwriting degree. You don't need to start climbing your virtual high horse and pretend that you're a beacon of light in an internet-wasteland of vultures. It's pathetic for people to pick on you, and it's just as pathetic for you to lose your cool over it.

I'm just amazed at how expensive all of that is. And the people here who've met me can vouch for me in saying that I'm not fat; I'm only twenty-two; and I've got nothing to do all day, being that school doesn't start for about three weeks and I live in El Paso. So I think I'm justified--as I'm someone who has a similar degree to the one you're getting--to express my wonderment on the internet on a topic I'm familiar with.

Later, I'll go swimming and forget the whole thing, so I don't really feel miserable about it.

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 02:19 PM
Also, I'm fat and not offended.

Alchemy
08-05-2009, 02:23 PM
I actually feel better about myself. I feel like I made a steal earning my degree.

amyzzz
08-05-2009, 02:28 PM
I'm glad I spent so little since I did so little with it.

Young blood
08-05-2009, 02:33 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/Untitled-6.jpg

luckyface
08-05-2009, 02:35 PM
Who the fuck cares what she got her degree in? You could argue that a screenwriting degree is more useful than some of the degrees that people on their high horses obtain (Anthropology? Latin? Or how about the ever so useful Philosophy?). Sure screenwriting doesn't mean much, but how many people end up switching career paths anyway? Who the fuck cares?

And to Captn. You made the point that she didn't get her degree from Harvard. If she was wanting to get into the entertainment business, which is what I would imagine the only reason to actually obtain the degree, would you go to Harvard for that or go to the #1 school in the country for film? You think people in the film world are going to value an English degree at Harvard over a screenwriting degree where she no doubt was taught by practitioners in the field?

My guess is Kitt Katt is going to do little to nothing in screenwriting in the future. It is not like she won't be able to find a career elsewhere. And when she does, it most likely will be because of the main reason people get jobs to begin with: connections. Be it personal connections, or connections to the university one attended. And USC hooks people up.

samiksha
08-05-2009, 02:37 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/captncrzy/citylist.jpg

whoa. ann arbor made the list. that's weird.

PotVsKtl
08-05-2009, 02:39 PM
Who the fuck cares what she got her degree in? You could argue that a screenwriting degree is more useful than some of the degrees that people on their high horses obtain (Anthropology? Latin? Or how about the ever so useful Philosophy?). Sure screenwriting doesn't mean much, but how many people end up switching career paths anyway? Who the fuck cares?

And to Captn. You made the point that she didn't get her degree from Harvard. If she was wanting to get into the entertainment business, which is what I would imagine the only reason to actually obtain the degree, would you go to Harvard for that or go to the #1 school in the country for film? You think people in the film world are going to value an English degree at Harvard over a screenwriting degree where she no doubt was taught by practitioners in the field?

My guess is Kitt Katt is going to do little to nothing in screenwriting in the future. It is not like she won't be able to find a career elsewhere. And when she does, it most likely will be because of the main reason people get jobs to begin with: connections. Be it personal connections, or connections to the university one attended. And USC hooks people up.

Do you know how much two hundred thousand dollars is?

luckyface
08-05-2009, 02:44 PM
Do you know how much two hundred thousand dollars is?

Yep. I also know attending any of the "elite" private universities costs an amount comparable to that. Whether it is worth that amount when compared to other private institutions or a public university, that is another argument.

PotVsKtl
08-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Any school that charges someone $200k for screenwriting isn't elite, it's straight thievery. From dumb kids with rich daddys, sure, but that's besides the point.

captncrzy
08-05-2009, 03:01 PM
Rocke-I think the point is that it seems extreme to spend $200k to get a degree in screenwriting. Maybe she is making contacts; but you can also make contacts getting a business degree there.

At the same time, Matt Damon was an English major at Harvard and that fucker has an Oscar...so what do I know?

Young blood
08-05-2009, 03:03 PM
"How you like them apples?"


He deserved that Oscar.

psycobetabuckdown
08-05-2009, 03:04 PM
Business degrees are way more worthless than a screenwriting degree, are you kidding? You can't teach business sense.

JebusLives
08-05-2009, 05:20 PM
Wow, a lot of you guys are judgmental assholes.

5800 posts in, enlightenment is finally reached.

BlackSwan
08-05-2009, 05:39 PM
I was just at Harvard for a seminar; it's not downtown Boston but it's only about a 15 minute cab ride from Boston Logan.


That doesn't change the fact that it is in fucking Cambridge. Dumbass.

You could argue that a screenwriting degree is more useful than some of the degrees that people on their high horses obtain (Anthropology? Latin? Or how about the ever so useful Philosophy?). Sure screenwriting doesn't mean much, but how many people end up switching career paths anyway?

That would be a stupid argument. Anthropology is a great major, and definitely much better than a 200k screenwriting degree.


And when she does, it most likely will be because of the main reason people get jobs to begin with: connections. Be it personal connections, or connections to the university one attended. And USC hooks people up.

Just for the record, I got the job I have now the good ole' fashion way--Being fucking awesome.

nbvcide
08-05-2009, 06:12 PM
wtf happened to this thread???

Courtney
08-05-2009, 06:31 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/captncrzy/citylist.jpg

Where is San Francisco on this list? Or Honolulu for that matter. Massive fail.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
08-05-2009, 06:48 PM
going to a school like USC for a degree in something like screenwriting is completely pointless. Who looks at resumes when listening tp pitches anyway?

Just grab a screenwriting book, watch Network and Citizen Kane, and get out to big hollywood parties and suck a bunch of cocks--KABOOM

SoulDischarge
08-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Here's a different list that makes more sense: http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/23/cities-america-expensive-forbeslife-cx_ls_0724expensive_us.html

nbvcide
08-05-2009, 06:57 PM
hey!! did anyone catch Coachella on the Colbert Report last night?

Courtney
08-05-2009, 07:16 PM
Here's a different list that makes more sense: http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/23/cities-america-expensive-forbeslife-cx_ls_0724expensive_us.html

Much better.

whynotsmile99
08-05-2009, 08:27 PM
this thread makes me think we need a "coachella message board entertainment industry" group.

it is all contacts after all

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
08-05-2009, 08:38 PM
this thread makes me think we need a "coachella message board entertainment industry" group.

it is all contacts after all

interesting idea

i work at a commercial recording studio and ad agency

whynotsmile99
08-05-2009, 08:43 PM
interesting idea

i work at a commercial recording studio and ad agency

i've flirted with the commercial/advertisement side a bit. I enjoyed it, and you can't argue with the pay. I work at a talent management/development (film,tv,home entertainment) company.

boom look at that... made another contact

4Ransom
08-05-2009, 09:09 PM
dont listen to them kat. people who went to shitty schools (or no school at all) always love to talk shit on people who are going to good schools, and pretend that a degree is a degree, cuz it makes them feel better about themselves. fact is, if you are paying that much money, you are most likely getting better teachers, smaller classrooms, more time with teachers after class, etc. sure, thats not always the case, and you can still get a great education at cheaper schools, and crap educations at good schools, cuz a lot of it has to do with how much you put into it and how bad you actually want to learn. fact is, elite schools like usc give you way more resources to succeed than your average state run school. if people have that kind of money and want to spend it on their kids, who fuckin cares? jealous fuckin haters, thats who...

"if they hate them late em hate and watch the money pile up"

Young blood
08-05-2009, 09:35 PM
dont listen to them kat. people who went to shitty schools (or no school at all) always love to talk shit on people who are going to good schools, and pretend that a degree is a degree, cuz it makes them feel better about themselves. fact is, if you are paying that much money, you are most likely getting better teachers, smaller classrooms, more time with teachers after class, etc. sure, thats not always the case, and you can still get a great education at cheaper schools, and crap educations at good schools, cuz a lot of it has to do with how much you put into it and how bad you actually want to learn. fact is, elite schools like usc give you way more resources to succeed than your average state run school. if people have that kind of money and want to spend it on their kids, who fuckin cares? jealous fuckin haters, thats who...

"if they hate them late em hate and watch the money pile up"

hahahahahahahahahaha STFU, go suck off Kayne you fucking douchebag.

Young blood
08-05-2009, 09:36 PM
She even admitted it was a mistake.

4Ransom
08-05-2009, 09:38 PM
hahahahahahahahahaha STFU, go suck off Kayne you fucking douchebag.

thats 50 cent, but nice try.

4Ransom
08-05-2009, 09:42 PM
She even admitted it was a mistake.

she hasnt even finished school yet (im assuming), so judging if its worth it or not is a bit premature, dont ya think? all im saying is people shouldnt hate on others who spend more on education than they would. as courtney said, its one of the best things you can spend money on.

Young blood
08-05-2009, 09:42 PM
I know, thats why I went with the suck off Kayne comment.

chairmenmeow47
08-05-2009, 09:45 PM
who the fuck is craig ferguson?

Young blood
08-05-2009, 09:46 PM
she hasnt even finished school yet (im assuming), so judging if its worth it or not is a bit premature, dont ya think? all im saying is people shouldnt hate on others who spend more on education than they would. as courtney said, its one of the best things you can spend money on.

She said it was a mistake. Check the first page. You can make a mistake with education. $200,000 on a screen writers degree is a mistake. There are not many jobs you can fall back on unless you use the USC alma mater as a in. Shes is going to have to kiss a lot of ass.

4Ransom
08-05-2009, 09:53 PM
jesus man, i know she said that. im just saying she is making that judgment too early. wait till she graduates, and is unemployed for 2 years and then becomes a porn star to judge if she paid too much for that degree. cuz who knows, like rocke said, alumni connections alone could get her a fuckin job. and also, maybe her parents are multi-millionaires. then 200k isnt shit, so why not throw it down, if thats what she wants to do?

Young blood
08-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Im not trying to be a dick. She has said her parents didnt pay for it. She works fulltime to pay for it. A $200,000 mistake is one of the funniest mistakes. But go with it, maybe she will pm you a*love note.

4Ransom
08-05-2009, 10:00 PM
for reals? she pays for it herself? whoops, i didnt see that part. well shit, maybe it is a mistake then, lol.

Mr. Dylanja
08-05-2009, 10:01 PM
Doesn't she work as a disc jockey?

TheWatcher
08-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Wow, how did this thread go from Coachella on the Colbert Report to an in-depth discussion (including flames) of the cost of a college education?

Anyway, here I am feeling depressed about the amount of money my degree is costing, and someone found a way to make me feel better. I AM NOT ALONE!!!! :sorry

So, $50k a year :eek: works out to about around $1000 per quarter credit? Wow. Makes you wonder why it costs so much.

boarderwoozel3
08-05-2009, 10:46 PM
Hurray University of Washington! A top public school that costs ~$25k/year (nonresident) :thu

PassiveTheory
08-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Yeah... if USC's radio station is anything like the UCRN affiliate stations (UCSC, UCLA, UCM, UCSB, UCB, etc.) then no, Kat isn't being paid.

With grants and my folks helping out, I think it's coming out to me paying just over 20K for all 4 years, which isn't too bad. It's not 10x that like what Kat is apparently facing.

Let the jokes about paying 20K to learn how to smoke a bong/learn hemp art/on me in general commence!

zenidogx
08-06-2009, 04:22 AM
Yeah... if USC's radio station is anything like the UCRN affiliate stations (UCSC, UCLA, UCM, UCSB, UCB, etc.) then no, Kat isn't being paid.


er, um, that's not really a station. and it won't be anytime soon.



i'll end up paying shy of 20,000 to go to school in Merced. Although, I must calculate how much of that I spent on shows/coachella.
As much as I feel my professors ain't teaching me right, I look at the state university system in California and its students and I feel much better about myself.

humanoid
08-06-2009, 06:11 AM
Of course a expensive education can offer you better resources and possibly better professors, but it doesn't guarantee you the superior education. That still depends greatly upon your willingness to work and desire to learn. I know plenty of morons who graduated from USC and Pepperdine, whose parents could afford that tuition, that can't hold a candle intellectually to some of my community college friends.


PS...do you guys really think Steven Colbert is that funny?

captncrzy
08-06-2009, 08:09 AM
Business degrees are way more worthless than a screenwriting degree, are you kidding? You can't teach business sense.

That's possibly the stupidest comment of all time. You think you can't teach business sense, but you CAN teach people how to be creative?


That doesn't change the fact that it is in fucking Cambridge. Dumbass.


Cambridge is an inner suburb of Boston. Anyone with a brain should be able to figure out that there isn't going to be much of a price difference in the cost of living between a major city and it's inner suburbs. Sure, the average housing cost is going to be slightly pricier in Scottsdale than Phoenix, or Beverly Hills than LA, but other than that, food, gas, etc is going to be about the same.

As far as the flaming goes, she brought all of this on herself. Don't be an attention whore and announce that you're spending $200k on a screenwriting degree and then not expect to get called out on it. If you don't want to risk people personally attacking you, then don't put it your personal information out there. (Think Courtney, FatBastard-no attention whoring, so no "personal" attacks.)

luckyface
08-06-2009, 08:17 AM
Any school that charges someone $200k for screenwriting isn't elite, it's straight thievery. From dumb kids with rich daddys, sure, but that's besides the point.
No matter what degree you are gunning for, you will be paying ~$200k at USC (and other elite private institutions). While it might not be the wisest decision (generously put) to spend that kind of money on such a limited major, I don't like criticizing someone following a passion, however fleeting it may be. But I also don't put a huge emphasis on undergraduate majors. You shouldn't be locked in to a field for the rest of your life based on how you felt when you are 20.

I certainly would not have chosen such a major, but at least her GE courses will give her the ability to function in society. And if screenwriting doesn't work out, she can choose the Masters program of her choice to make up for it. Masters programs for the most parts are cash cows that will take anyone with money and a decent educational/professional background.

Rocke-I think the point is that it seems extreme to spend $200k to get a degree in screenwriting. Maybe she is making contacts; but you can also make contacts getting a business degree there.

At the same time, Matt Damon was an English major at Harvard and that fucker has an Oscar...so what do I know?
Well right, but you could criticize a lot of people for the majors they choose. I would say it is no different than most of the majors out there. I would love to see a run-down of how many people actually end up in the careers they hope for when they graduate from school. I can't tell you how many people in my life have completely shunned their majors as they advanced in their careers (myself included). With the devaluing of undergraduate degrees, I just don't think undergraduate majors are life or death. Might as well try for what you have a passion for now and if it doesn't work out, make up for it in a masters program (which is going to be a growing trend in the future anyway).

Ok, so you have Matt Damon. Anyone else? Hahaha. If you look at the background of movie crews, I think you are going to find a couple more people who came from USC than Harvard.

That would be a stupid argument. Anthropology is a great major, and definitely much better than a 200k screenwriting degree.

Just for the record, I got the job I have now the good ole' fashion way--Being fucking awesome.
I would say yes, anthropology is a better major than screenwriting. But lets be honest, is there a huge demand in the workforce for anthropologists? How is that going to prepare you for a career more than another degree?

I also don't think it is rare to land jobs the old fashioned way. But a lot of places do rely upon connections to get your foot in the door. As you move up in your career, I am sure your connections (be it from personal relationships, recommendations, or elsewhere) will have some role in that. And sometimes, all it takes is the school you come from to get that foot in the door.

Of course a expensive education can offer you better resources and possibly better professors, but it doesn't guarantee you the superior education. That still depends greatly upon your willingness to work and desire to learn. I know plenty of morons who graduated from USC and Pepperdine, whose parents could afford that tuition, that can't hold a candle intellectually to some of my community college friends.

I think this sums it up pretty well.

This is a fun thread!

captncrzy
08-06-2009, 08:28 AM
And if screenwriting doesn't work out, she can choose the Masters program of her choice to make up for it. Masters programs for the most parts are cash cows that will take anyone with money and a decent educational/professional background.

This is true


Well right, but you could criticize a lot of people for the majors they choose. I would say it is no different than most of the majors out there. I would love to see a run-down of how many people actually end up in the careers they hope for when they graduate from school. I can't tell you how many people in my life have completely shunned their majors as they advanced in their careers (myself included). With the devaluing of undergraduate degrees, I just don't think undergraduate majors are life or death. Might as well try for what you have a passion for now and if it doesn't work out, make up for it in a masters program (which is going to be a growing trend in the future anyway).

There's honor in going after your passion; it just seems extensive. Maybe I'm out of touch with how much school costs these days or something, but when someone tells me they spent $200k on their education, I'd expect to see a stethoscope hanging around their neck.

Ok, so you have Matt Damon. Anyone else? Hahaha. If you look at the background of movie crews, I think you are going to find a couple more people who came from USC than Harvard.

I'm sure this is true, but it's also an odds game. I'd say the odds of becoming a successful screenwriter are probably a lot less than the odds of spending $200k and becoming something a successful something else.

luckyface
08-06-2009, 09:09 AM
There's honor in going after your passion; it just seems extensive. Maybe I'm out of touch with how much school costs these days or something, but when someone tells me they spent $200k on their education, I'd expect to see a stethoscope hanging around their neck.

Certainly. And this is a whole other beast - is the cost of private education worth it? It is actually really interesting. As ridiculous as costs seem at many private schools, the tuition students pay does not cover the costs the school incurs. So the $200k the student pays to go to USC does not cover everything for that student.

Unfortunately, education costs are going to continue to rise, and that will include public institutions. Less money is being spent on education, and the money that does get filtered to education will first and foremost be sent to the K-12 schools. That means public institutions will have to make up for the money the government used to provide.

It is scary to think what costs will be in the future for the kids that are being brought into the world today.

paganman7
08-06-2009, 09:11 AM
I had to borrow exactly $0 for my degree. My tuition, expenses, books, and a $30,000 per year stipend was given to me.

It was all paid for by an NIH training grant. So...thanks taxpayers.

canexplain
08-06-2009, 09:12 AM
Here's a different list that makes more sense: http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/23/cities-america-expensive-forbeslife-cx_ls_0724expensive_us.html

Thanks for the link although I use Forbes whenever I want to find the most expensive "X". Yes I would trust Forbes more then the data from the first example. The list in general just makes more sense. cr****

JebusLives
08-06-2009, 09:20 AM
I was looking forward to a thread about Colbert and Coachella, and instead I get something about tuition and some socal skank. Disappointment.

liquidsnake28
08-06-2009, 09:43 AM
University of Stupid Cunts.

Go Trojans!

Alchemy
08-06-2009, 10:41 AM
Luckyface,

There IS a demand for anthropologists, actually. Applied anthropology and archeology have many open slots in business, military, government, and non-profit organizations. If you have a degree in anthro., you can rest assured that you'll find a job. Maybe not a high paying job, but a decent one, at least.

Anthro was my minor, and all of us had a lot of opportunities to do things, even without majoring in it... but, I hate people, so I wouldn't want to be an anthropologist.

JustSteve
08-06-2009, 11:05 AM
It is scary to think what costs will be in the future for the kids that are being brought into the world today.

we sat down with our financial planner recently and got some of those numbers. in 15 or so years a public college education may be running $200,000. yeah.

PotVsKtl
08-06-2009, 11:17 AM
I'm just angry because I lost $200k on the ponys.

Alchemy
08-06-2009, 11:36 AM
Should've stayed at a Holiday Inn.

amyzzz
08-06-2009, 11:46 AM
My tuition was $1800 a year way back when, and I only paid for the last 2 years (had a scholarship). But then again, didn't do anything with my degree. That's probably the only fiscally responsible decision I've made in my life. (except, of course, still didn't do anything with it)

canexplain
08-06-2009, 12:01 PM
My tuition was $1800 a year way back when, and I only paid for the last 2 years (had a scholarship). But then again, didn't do anything with my degree. That's probably the only fiscally responsible decision I've made in my life. (except, of course, still didn't do anything with it)

I went to college for 10 years because the GI bill paid for everything plus a monthly allowance. After 10 years though, they cut you off.

but, I hate people, so I wouldn't want to be an anthropologist

I feel that way somedays but then it goes away. The I hate people part is what I was referring to.
cr****

PotVsKtl
08-06-2009, 12:17 PM
but, I hate people, so I wouldn't want to be an anthropologist

They're dead Ron.

JebusLives
08-06-2009, 12:31 PM
I have a BSc in Anthropology (technically physical anthropology / primatology) and work in IT. I make more money than my coworkers with computer diplomas from colleges. Enough to justify the extra 2 years of school? Not sure, and i'm scared to crunch the numbers. But I definitely feel more educated and well-rounded than if i'd just learned my trade.

PotVsKtl
08-06-2009, 12:36 PM
Your mom's well-rounded.

canexplain
08-06-2009, 12:38 PM
They're dead Ron.

I thought he meant that he doesn’t like working with people in general thus he might like a job where you work just by yourself. Cr****

You guys are going to puke eventually with Nice Ron :)

buddy
08-06-2009, 12:40 PM
They're dead Ron.

http://www.princetonreview.com/Careers.aspx?cid=8
A Day in the life of a Anthropologist
Anthropologists examine, analyze, report on, and compare different cultures and how they grow, develop, and interact. How people live offers insights into modern life and how significantly (or, more often, how little) we have changed and how similar we are in our basic systems of interaction. Anthropologists can travel to exotic lands and spend time in primitive conditions or work in developed countries, such as the United States, comparing regional concerns. Cultural anthropologists may compare the culture of the medical world to that of the financial world, or the culture of professional athletes to that of legal professionals. Some anthropologists take a cross-disciplinary approach to the field, studying linguistics, chemistry, nutrition, or behavioral science, and apply the methodologies of those disciplines to their study of culture. Qualities that encourage success in this field include a nonjudgmental, inquisitive mind; patience; and the ability to make inferences from incomplete information...“Don’t go into this profession unless you’ve got the stomach to play politics,” warned one professor. “It never gets any easier, and it never gets any better.”

Alchemy
08-06-2009, 01:08 PM
Most anthropologists work with living people. I fell in love with archeology and aspects of physical anthropology that dealt with not-so-living people and I got to work in a lab that analyzed samples from the Three Rivers petroglyph site.

Applied anthropologists are trained in needs assessment and rapid ethnography, which make them very valuable for the government, the military, and companies when they are working with, selling too, or communicating with groups of people.

Though this law isn't very well respected, when a company is going to construct over land, they are required to have an archeologist check it and make sure that nobody is building over anything important. I know people who have been contracted by the military for this, because they are always destroying things out here.

Most anthropologists do non-profit organization stuff, I think. It isn't that big of a pay check, but you make a lot of friends and connections being an anthropologist since you are not only working with, but often times helping, tons of people, which could translate into resources and better work down the road.

So basically, it's a great major, AND you can get a degree in it for cheap at many universities!