Anyone selling an ipod?

[sbessiso]

For a reasonable price to me?* (working ipod of course)

My pod broke last weekend and its like losing a best friend. I take bus every single day and with no music these days have been unbearable.

For all you non-public transportation takers, imagine if your car stereo, cd player, speakers, EVERYTHING just broke. :eek:!!!

So maybe we can work something out? I turn to you CMB for help in my hour of need. Someone please take pity on me





*remember i'm a poor college student

[pancakespancakes]

You should search ebay!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPod-classic-4th-Generation-20-GB-MP3-Player_W0QQitemZ150364962301QQcmdZViewItemQQptZOth er_MP3_Players?hash=item2302733dfd&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


There are always old school ipods on there for very cheap. And despite their being old, they work just as well as far as I know. Don't hold as much music though, that's the bummer.

[emtgreg]

PM me your address Sally.

[MissingPerson]

I'd stay the hell away from the old-scoolers to be honest. They had a lot of battery problems, if I remember right.

That said, might be worth asking in an iPod repair place if they sell refurbished ones.

[JewFace]

Agreed with MP! Stay away from the older models. Battery issues, circuit issues, unusual heat sensitivity issues.

[suprefan]

How hard is it to grab a 2gb shuffle for $50 at walmart and be done with it? the cd player in my cars works maybe once a day if I am lucky. I deal with the silence.

[sbessiso]

1Ab8O_Z_BBw

[fatbastard]

I purchased mine from this website. It's a 30GB video. Average price is 85.00 but paid 105.00 because it's red, which caused a bit of a bidding war.

http://www.propertyroom.com/

[greghead]

For a reasonable price to me?* (working ipod of course)

My pod broke last weekend and its like losing a best friend. I take bus every single day and with no music these days have been unbearable.

For all you non-public transportation takers, imagine if your car stereo, cd player, speakers, EVERYTHING just broke. :eek:!!!

So maybe we can work something out? I turn to you CMB for help in my hour of need. Someone please take pity on me





*remember i'm a poor college student

God forbid you can't plug in headphones and tune out your surroundings. How will you ever survive?

I kid, I kid. I know Apple.com sells refurbished iPods that have been given new serial numbers and warranties. Not too expensive.

[menikmati]

I'd stay the hell away from the old-scoolers to be honest. They had a lot of battery problems, if I remember right.

That said, might be worth asking in an iPod repair place if they sell refurbished ones.

Except my old schooler still works pretty damn fine.

[MissingPerson]

We had an extremely high return rate on them where I used to work. I sold hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of iPods, and I own a Creative Zen.

I wouldn't risk an older one myself, personally, is all I'm saying. Not only did they have a fairly high incidence of problems, it's trickier to find accessories for them now and they're a fair bit more unweildy than their little brothers and sisters. If it were me, I think I'd prefer to spend the money on a newer refurb. Moore's Law is on your side, so it's not like you're going to be paying more for less neither.

[emtgreg]

I like Godwin's law.

Fucking Nazi.

[menikmati]

Forget ipods, get yourself an Archos or Cowon.

[Boourns]

I love my iTouch, except for the battery. It is dying faster and faster every day :(

[sbessiso]

I cannot and will not get an itouch. Im already on the internet wayyy too much

[cubrocker]

my car was stolen in april (right after coachella) with my ipod in the glove box plugged into the tape deck on one of those crappy connectors.

im almost sadder about the ipod than the car.

luckily i have an iphone and can put a small percentage of my music on there for my daily listening pleasure.

[marooko]

I like Godwin's law.

Fucking Nazi.

win.


Forget ipods, get yourself an Archos or Cowon.

win. except the archos doesnt do as much as the cowon out of the box.

[faxman75]

The archos is also not very pocket friendly.

[marooko]

the joystick on the cowon can lead to problems, but with a remote now, it will last much, much longer.

[unknown]

Any luck Salah? I had a 20gb iPod photo for about 5 years till my drunk ass dunked it in a cup of water. It still worked but when I tried to put new music on it that's when I realized I could not access it on iTunes so I gave in and bought a 120gb classic. Had that unfortunate incident not happened I would still be rockin that old schooler - and it worked just fine, no battery problems, no glitches, used it every day 6+ hours a day. What about craigslist?

[hawkingvsreeve]

I just got a 80gig on CL for $80. 5th gen. Works fine.

[ThomThom]

Any luck Salah? I had a 20gb iPod photo for about 5 years till my drunk ass dunked it in a cup of water. It still worked but when I tried to put new music on it that's when I realized I could not access it on iTunes so I gave in and bought a 120gb classic. Had that unfortunate incident not happened I would still be rockin that old schooler - and it worked just fine, no battery problems, no glitches, used it every day 6+ hours a day. What about craigslist?

I was thinking of buying a Classic before Apple gets rid of them (which I heard was soon). How do you like yours?

[Geno_guerrero]

Yeah I want a classic and the 120gb, never have to buy an ipod again, my 30gb video ipod has lasted years...

[faxman75]

I was thinking of tyring something other than an ipod but there really isn't anything else high capcity that fits in your pocket as easy. Unless i'm missing something. I'm certainly not convinced the Zune is any better yet but I heard the newer Zune is better.

Hmm.

[ThomThom]

Yeah I want a classic and the 120gb, never have to buy an ipod again, my 30gb video ipod has lasted years...

Yeah my 30gb video has been full for months now and it is starting to freeze a handful of times a month which is becoming a bit of a nuisance. Word on the street was they were phasing out the Classic's by years end and replacing it with a bigger (and ridiculously expensive) ipod Touch.

[Distorted_Jungle]

I love my Zune, i don't know when they are comming out but i know Zune is comming out with a HD Zune Touch sometime soon. It's going to be just like the ipod touch but everything will be HD.

[Geno_guerrero]

Yeah my 30gb video has been full for months now and it is starting to freeze a handful of times a month which is becoming a bit of a nuisance. Word on the street was they were phasing out the Classic's by years end and replacing it with a bigger (and ridiculously expensive) ipod Touch.

Weird, my 30gb has been full for two years and still doesn't freeze, but I'm using my iPhone's ipod more now...

[faxman75]

I love my Zune, i don't know when they are comming out but i know Zune is comming out with a HD Zune Touch sometime soon. It's going to be just like the ipod touch but everything will be HD.

Interesting. I have seen some 120gb ipod classics on craigslist for about 150 bucks same goes for the Zune.

I'm trying to decide which to go with. I enjoy my Ipod Video and have for about 3 years but 30GB is small just like others are saying. I would love it if one of the Cowans or other companies would make a player that I can slide in my shirt picket like I can with my ipod since that's where I often keep mine but until then I think I have to stick with the ipod. Is the Zune a lot more bulky?

[marooko]

Interesting. I have seen some 120gb ipod classics on craigslist for about 150 bucks same goes for the Zune.

I'm trying to decide which to go with. I enjoy my Ipod Video and have for about 3 years but 30GB is small just like others are saying. I would love it if one of the Cowans or other companies would make a player that I can slide in my shirt picket like I can with my ipod since that's where I often keep mine but until then I think I have to stick with the ipod. Is the Zune a lot more bulky?

the zune is a little bulky IMO. cowon does make the d2, but its only 32gb.

[chiapet]

I had an Archos, it was terrible -- froze a lot, was way too big and heavy to fit in a pocket, and ended up permanently dying a few weeks after the (1 year) warranty. The only real selling points to it, at the time were to be able to use it as a USB drive (people had convinced me you can't see iPods as removable drives which is not true, and now USB drives are so cheap that this doesn't matter) and because I was really anti-Apple because of the fanatic fandom that surrounds them.

I've had a 60gb video (5g) since they came out and haven't had problems. I've managed to crash it a few times in 4 years. I would definitely buy another. Actually right now I'm waiting to see what Apple's september announcements are regarding ipods before I buy another. I've had my eye on the "new" classics that are 120gb but want to see what's coming up.

Mark, the only people I know who really love Zunes are friends who work at M$ :)

[faxman75]

Thanks for the insight Heidi. Frozen Pilgrim really had me sold on getting something other than an ipod because of sound quality but not one other device can do what the ipod does for me. Large capacity (120GB) and slim enough to fit in my shirt pocket. Looks like i'm leaning towards the 120 gb ipod then. I'll see if anyone else chimes in with other suggestions but it seems doubtful.

[chiapet]

If there is an inherent problem with the player, then his hearing must be a lot better than mine. :) All of the mp3 players I've listened to are comparable. What really matters is headphones and how you've encoded the music. Sure, 128kbs mp3s with Apple's free earphones sound terrible. I haven't moved to using lossless files for portable listening, but ripping at a high quality with a good encoder is definitely "good enough" for me.

[Boourns]

All my headphones die after a couple months so I never bother with good ones.

[TomAz]

I left my 160G ipod on an airplane yesterday. They don't even make 160s anymore. I'm gonna have to kill Steve Jobs.

[Hannahrain]

You can still get them on Amazon. I just replaced mine through them, though I opted for the newer model (which caps at 120 gb) because I had some problems with the old one and was hoping maybe they had been ironed out with the new generation. But they're there. I checked again before I wrote this.

[Hannahrain]

Also, this morning I got a call that my computer needed $700 in repairs and did I want them to go ahead and do the repairs or should they send it back. One thing leads to another and now I'm replacing the computer too. Expensive day. Or, more aptly, today is a day that is going to cost me a lot of money each month for the next while.

[hawkingvsreeve]

You can use ipods as viewable disks, Heidi. You just need certain programs. The latest version of Itunes allows you to do it I believe.

[frozen pilgrim]

Thanks for the insight Heidi. Frozen Pilgrim really had me sold on getting something other than an ipod because of sound quality but not one other device can do what the ipod does for me. Large capacity (120GB) and slim enough to fit in my shirt pocket. Looks like i'm leaning towards the 120 gb ipod then. I'll see if anyone else chimes in with other suggestions but it seems doubtful.

just promise me you'll be super duper careful when installing itunes and ripping music that you use a decent .mp3 codec, not apple's god-awful m4a. I love my zen (30 gigs and the size of a stack of credit cards) but if you want something 60 gigs+, and ipod's pretty much the only option other than one of what I like to call the "man-players" like the archos

edit: and chia, I am pretty ridiculous about my sound quality, but it's not JUST me. ipods are notorious for not exactly being the best sounding player out there.

[sbessiso]

I have no idea what any of you guys are talking about. I dont know much about the technology, im just a pretty face

[TomAz]

You can still get them on Amazon. I just replaced mine through them, though I opted for the newer model (which caps at 120 gb) because I had some problems with the old one and was hoping maybe they had been ironed out with the new generation. But they're there. I checked again before I wrote this.

by problems do you mean the occasional 2 second playback gap for no apparent reason and the occasional freezing up for no apparent reason?

also, thank you Hannah.

[Hannahrain]

It somehow became corrupted and at this point refuses to sync all the way through, and then (when it has songs) it will stop playing them and start advancing through all of them on its own as though all of the files were corrupted (I'm usually able to fix this with a temporary reset, but it's pretty obnoxious. And sometimes songs that have been passed over in this manner actually DO become corrupted and refuse to play later). So, by problems, I mean that it refuses to let me put any music on it, and if I did get it to work I'd have to spend a good amount of time convincing it to play some for me.

[TomAz]

other than that how did you like it?

[Hannahrain]

When it worked, it was great. It was a gift, and had Spoon lyrics engraved in the back.

[chiapet]

Brandon, I know :) I was told it could not be used that way about 4-5 years ago. I think it could be at the time. I was surrounded by Apple haters.

Pilgrim, I've heard from quite a few people that the Zen is no better than the iPod in terms of hardware quality. Could you expand on what makes it better? Admittedly I probably won't consider a Zen at this point since I am wanting more than 60gb now, not less.

[frozen pilgrim]

just the actual DAC chip that converts the digital signal to the analog signal that goes into the headphones. around the 3rd or 4th generation apple started buying from a third party. also, there's the codec issue- most ipod users don't know about the quality issues with apple's codecs, and so they don't switch their settings in itunes, resulting in an ipod full of 192kb fixed bitrate m4a files that're missing 10-20% of the frequency spectrum and most of the dynamics and stereo imaging of the original file. creative is still in the business of making their own sound cards and DACs, and in my personal opinion, their players just sound a bit better. and you can use whatever MP3 codecs you want. also, I like having 32 gigs the size of a stack of credit cards, SDHC expansion, ease of sharing with friends, drag-and-drop functionality, good integration with the xbox360... it just fits the bill for what I wanted. I'd never even attempt to carry my whole collection, so choosing music is already an issue. I don't think anyone makes a several-hundred-gigabyte player that can fit comfortably in my pocket while biking or skating.

[BROKENDOLL]

I have no idea what any of you guys are talking about. I dont know much about the technology, im just a pretty face
Salah, your post changed the dumb ignorant look on my face into a smile, thank you!

[chiapet]

The codec "problem" is independent of the iPod though, perhaps iTunes can be blamed if you want to blame someone other than the user. They have to pick a default, and it's one that a lot of casual users will be happy with, as it allows them to approach the maximum number of songs stored for the capacity they bought. If they were to use a default with the highest quality, but also largest file size, possible, casual listeners would use that without realizing or caring and would complain that they didn't get anything close to the song capacity Apple has claimed.

You can't please everyone and you have to cater to your most ignorant users while making options available for those who want more. They do that. The codec settings are the simpliest thing to change, and I think you under-estimate people. A person who is not going to bother looking at the very obvious burning settings is also probably not going to care that their file quality sucks. Of course, it doesn't let you use any codec imaginable but do have like 4 or 5 choices including 2 lossless.

These are consumer electronics products though.... whatever is marketable to over 100 million people is likely not going to please someone looking for audiophile equipment.

[menikmati]

Get back to me when itunes/ipod supports flac.

[SoulDischarge]

Luckily, I have had close to no problems with my 160GB iPod. Less than my previous 80GB that I eventually broke the screen on. If anything every happened to it, I would probably cry like I lost a family member. I wish I could afford a second one because 160 is still not enough. But that's just ridiculous at this point.

[chiapet]

I'm jealous. I really want a 160GB one, but not enough to pay twice as much as the 120GB ones are. Would I really miss those extra 40GB? .... probably.

[TomAz]

yeah the prices people are getting on amazon for the 160 is making me think I'll get a 120.

There should be a terrabyte ipod and it should be free.

[fatbastard]

and loaded with music

[amyzzz]

I can't believe how much I paid for my old 15. It still works though.

[SoulDischarge]

I'd like something where you can buy additional storage space and just plug it in so you don't have to buy a whole new device when you run out of room.

[amyzzz]

YES

[hawkingvsreeve]

I paid 400 for a 3rd gen 15gb back when it came out. It is now a pretty paper weight.


Also unless you are using 500 dollar headphones or plugging into a 10k stereo system, this nonsense about 10% of spectrum loss or whatever the fuck it is is just silly. People dont know about that stuff, and more importantly, they dont care. 192 sounds fine to me, and I have higher end audio equipment than most people. For my money it is the best audio quality to space requirement ratio out there at the moment.

[amyzzz]

Ok, you paid more for yours. I had a corporate discount.

[chiapet]

192 sounds 'not good' to me, but when it comes to 320k or V0, I can't tell the difference between that or lossless when I'm using computer speakers or headphones, so I don't bother ripping stuff lossless.

Brandon, I had every intention of hooking the Roo speakers up to my computer when i got home, and ahhhh they are still in the suitcase. ;)

[frozen pilgrim]

Also unless you are using 500 dollar headphones or plugging into a 10k stereo system, this nonsense about 10% of spectrum loss or whatever the fuck it is is just silly.

it's not silly at all. I can hear the difference immediately. the ipod's DAC has active dynamic range compression to squeeze the highest SPL possible out of the least battery. i.e. it's louder and thinner sounding. but like I said, change the codecs, use good headphones, and it's not a big enough deal for most people to worry about. but there really is a difference, and for someone like me, it really rules the ipod out.

also, there's the whole horror show that is the itunes software itself. registry fuckerage, quicktime rapeage, and all that.

[TomAz]

Also unless you are using 500 dollar headphones or plugging into a 10k stereo system, this nonsense about 10% of spectrum loss or whatever the fuck it is is just silly. People dont know about that stuff, and more importantly, they dont care. 192 sounds fine to me, and I have higher end audio equipment than most people. For my money it is the best audio quality to space requirement ratio out there at the moment.

I agree with this Brandon and I was using $500 earphones. Til I left them on the plane on Sunday that is.

[SoulDischarge]

Using iTunes is bullshit. I just use Winamp with my iPod and end up a lot happier.

[frozen pilgrim]

if people really can't hear the difference, maybe we all need to have the 'earplugs at concerts' discussion again >.<

I jest.

[emtgreg]

WHAT??

[frozen pilgrim]

*forehead slap*

[SoulDischarge]

I'll never regret letting "You Made Me Realise" bareback me.

[emtgreg]

hahahaha

[emtgreg]

I'll never regret letting "You Made Me Realise" bareback me.

listening to them with my extra fancy super expensive earplugs in = great
the experience of removing them = mind blowing

[frozen pilgrim]

MBV wasn't THAT loud. for serious. mastodon was probably the loudest thing I heard this year. came close to being up front for aphex in 08

[miscorrections]

If you were right under a speaker they were pretty loud but the volume was noticeably lower than regular shows.

[emtgreg]

I wasn't referring to Coachella (although it is perfectly reasonable to assume I was), I was referring to the El Rey when I was standing right here:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/emtgreg/IMG_1607.jpg

[Geno_guerrero]

Seeing MBV at SF this close, I'll never forget it, so loud the floor and ceiling was shaking
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/48/l_96ccb6ee7cb4418ea4f6e8f4456059bb.jpg
Thanks for the photo for my avatar, not sure if you or chris took it...

[chiapet]

I wear earplugs now usually but admittedly didn't for the first 10+ years of concert going. Which was a whole lot of punk and noise shows, so there is that. ;) I actually think that 15 years on a (phone) headset most days has done more damage though. I switched to the other ear to try to balance out my hearing loss.

And Pilgrim, don't make us start again on how MBV at Coachella was not loud.... small indoor venue totally different story, don't open that can of worms again :)

[hawkingvsreeve]

I have none of the itunes problems you guys speak of. Probably because I am on a Mac to begin with.

[emtgreg]

I did, use away!! :D

A Pixies meetup in Oakland would be rad btw...

[Dale Gribble]

I have none of the itunes problems you guys speak of. Probably because I am on a Mac to begin with.

Yeah, I've never had any problems either. Don't know if me having a Mac has anything to do with it though.

[chiapet]

I use Windows and haven't had iTunes problems since 2004. Which was back when I had my Archos. ;)

[emtgreg]

I'm with Chia, I only wish that Itunes had Flac support...

[faxman75]

What issues do people have with itunes? I'm on a PC and never have issues. I connect my ipod to itunes every day to transfer music, stern show, podcasts or video.

[sbessiso]

Is there a way I can have my itunes find all the album artwork or do I have to do it manually for each album?

[JewFace]

Hey, Salah:

My ipod classic died earlier this year. Decided to cave in and replace it with a Nano. Refurbished ipods are on sale right now thru apple.com:

ipod nano 8gb = $99 w/ 1 yr warranty and free shipping
ipod nano 16gb = $149 w/ 1 yr warranty and free shipping

Ur welcome.

[TomAz]

So the rumor going around (e.g., here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/6161016/Apple-to-kill-off-iPod-Classic-as-focus-moves-to-touch-screen-devices.html)) is that Apple is going to discontinue the iPod classic line. Announcement today. If this is true I think it means several things:

- It will put a serious crimp in my music listening style.
- I don't think I am alone in this
- which means a large aftermarket for 2nd hand Classics will likely develop. (there already is one for 160gb)
- which means there may be an investment opportunity: buy up as many Classics as you can now and resell them on eBay in a few months at a nice profit.
- which also means Apple would have a gaping hole in its lineup and potentially open the door to serious competition.

[faxman75]

Apple slashing prices to kick off the day.......

http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/09/09/apple-slashes-ipod-prices-up-to-120/

[marooko]

I JUST BOUGHT 90!! IM RICH BITCH!!!

[invisiblerobots]

So the rumor going around (e.g., here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/6161016/Apple-to-kill-off-iPod-Classic-as-focus-moves-to-touch-screen-devices.html)) is that Apple is going to discontinue the iPod classic line. Announcement today. If this is true I think it means several things:

- It will put a serious crimp in my music listening style.
- I don't think I am alone in this
- which means a large aftermarket for 2nd hand Classics will likely develop. (there already is one for 160gb)
- which means there may be an investment opportunity: buy up as many Classics as you can now and resell them on eBay in a few months at a nice profit.
- which also means Apple would have a gaping hole in its lineup and potentially open the door to serious competition.

Rumor also has it that the 160GB Classic is coming back:
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/09/next-generation-ipod-model-number-list-revealed/

[bmack86]

The 160 is so great, I don't foresee ever switching.

[Hannahrain]

I have a 160 classic that's corrupted. Anybody know of a good third-party repair place that doesn't want to charge me more than I paid for the new one (IE: not Apple)? I miss it. It was a gift and it has Spoon lyrics engraved on the back. Far be it from me to agree with Sbessiso, but it really is like losing a friend.

[fatbastard]

I thought today's announcement was to introduce camera capabilities.

[boarderwoozel3]

Somehow I managed crack up the screen for my 30gb black video ipod, so I can't see a thing on the screen but brightness and cracks. So I blindly shuffled through music for a while but now it seems to be adversely effecting the battery life as well.

Time for a new ipod.

[TomAz]

Rumor also has it that the 160GB Classic is coming back:
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/09/next-generation-ipod-model-number-list-revealed/

god damn mother fucking mother fucker god damn.


I lost my 160 a few weeks ago and had to replace with a 120. Which is essentially full and I have been deleting stuff (movies, photos, TV shows, podcasts - not actual music, yet) and now you tell me I just had to wait a little bit for the 160 to return? mother fucker god damn.

[TomAz]

http://images.apple.com/home/images/hero-nano-20090909.jpg

[amyzzz]

I still have my old 15.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

http://images.apple.com/home/images/hero-nano-20090909.jpg

Pretty dope.

[whynotsmile99]

well those new Nano's are beautiful. I'll be getting that eventually. I'm a bit peeved about the 160 gig classic coming back, considering my 120gig is literally being shipped from Shanghai as we speak. I only spent 20 bucks on it since I got a computer and used the student deal. I didn't want a touch so that was certainly the best deal...still though....motherfuckers, i want a 160

[chiapet]

Oh man. I'm so glad they brought back the 160. It will be mine.

[boarderwoozel3]

That new nano looks very running friendly. I like.

But, a 160 classic for general use and a mini for exercise or running seems like the way to go. Pricey, but flexible.

[BlueDevil50]

I want a Classic that has at least 80gb but not really looking to spend $250. Any of you kids ready to cut ties with your iPod?