JUSTICE

[mistdevil]

I want the GOSH DAMN shirt.

word...!

[Bud Luster]

Justice wont be back at coachella next year, I remember reading somewhere that festival runners do their best to keep artists from performing 2 years in a row. Like to keep things different. (This obviously isnt always the case though, as the chems and maybe a few others have played consecutive years).

Untrue, many artists have played Coachella 2 years in a row. Especially those that played lower on the bill w/ a less desirable time slot, but rocked the fucking house. Saying that Justice will or will not play is purely speculation. Im on the will not side of the fence...

LOL!

seriously people, i dont understand what all the fuss is about ed banger/justice shirts when they are the ugliest fuckin things ive ever seen.

AGREED!

I didn't know reppin artists work is scene. Woa mama.

It isnt, but wearing their t-shirts like a walking billboard - look at me look at me Im so hip Ed Banger - JEW STEECE! - nurave - nurave - Im with it - Im hip!

IS...

[ficklecycle]

Well uh you haven't met me or seen me walking down the street so you wouldn't know. PLUS, I don't consider it a Justice shirt. To me, it's a SO ME shirt and I respect the guys work very much which is why I represent his shirt. I would've bought it even if it wasn't a part of the shirts he made for the D.A.N.C.E.

[suprefan]

I personally woudl tell GV to not book Justice next year, I woudl rather have them have another album under their belt in 2009 and then they end up higher on the bill of course with an even more ideal timeslot so more people coudl see what the fuss is about. If they do Coachella next year then it will be even more overkill than whats going to happen after the MTV Awards and the fall tour.

[xleslie]

enough talk about t-shirts

justice - phantom (boys noize remix)

available here: http://awsmlctro.blogspot.com/2007/09/back-with-vengeance.html

[keep2thestreets]

enough talk about t-shirts

justice - phantom (boys noize remix)

available here: http://awsmlctro.blogspot.com/2007/09/back-with-vengeance.html

thanks for the hook up !

you have steez

[R3d Snapper]

enough talk about t-shirts

justice - phantom (boys noize remix)

available here: http://awsmlctro.blogspot.com/2007/09/back-with-vengeance.html

SANK YOU

[superfiction]

enough talk about t-shirts

justice - phantom (boys noize remix)

available here: http://awsmlctro.blogspot.com/2007/09/back-with-vengeance.html

solid. you always bust out the good stuff

[superfiction]

and on a side note. i wonder how many more sick justice remixes can come out? so far almost everything ive heard has been ridicuously wicked. their songs are just great to tweak

[ficklecycle]

Hopefully something other than Phantom though.

[crazzz2007]

justice should remix their entire album....

justice - nite versions

that would be awesome

[superfiction]

agreed mos deifnately

[higgybaby23]

While promoting this years MTV video awards, the VJ mentioned the DANCE video by Justin? was one of the nominees. I find it very amusing that the people working and marketing the VMAs don't even know who Justice is. Anyone have intelligent theories as to why MTV is bothering to promote Justice at all? It is somewhat ridiculous to nominate a video that the station hasn't even played.

[shakermaker113]

speaking of remixes, does anyone have the Braxe/Falke mix of DANCE (as talked about by pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/45396-justice-collect-mstrkrft-braxefalke-jackson-mixes))? or are we going to have to wait for the remix EP?

[xleslie]

speaking of remixes, does anyone have the Braxe/Falke mix of DANCE (as talked about by pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/45396-justice-collect-mstrkrft-braxefalke-jackson-mixes))? or are we going to have to wait for the remix EP?

http://rapidshare.com/files/42908802/Justice-D.A.N.C.E-_Promo_CDS_-2007-EGM.rar

via: http://www.feedshow.com/show_items-feed=5b1b44d13b6ddc024aaaca613d79c650

[brando4n82]

While promoting this years MTV video awards, the VJ mentioned the DANCE video by Justin? was one of the nominees. I find it very amusing that the people working and marketing the VMAs don't even know who Justice is. Anyone have intelligent theories as to why MTV is bothering to promote Justice at all? It is somewhat ridiculous to nominate a video that the station hasn't even played.

Why is everyone confused as to why Justice has a nomination? Simple answer: it's a cool video. You guys act like you've never seen "Best Foreign Video" category for the VMA's. Theres been plenty of nominations over the years for videos MTV hasnt promoted (although the last VMA I actually paid attention to was in...fuck, i think '99. All i know is it was like the return of the Chili Peppers and they played, i think promoting Californication?) Anyways, Yes I know it's up for Best video, but i who cares? they're not gonna win anyways.

[suprefan]

They can win, just like Panic at The Disco won it aiight? No news on them even performing right? They will 'accept'' via sattelite?

[kingsblend420]

Justice Is Playing At My House.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Let's not forget Justice won video of the year on MTV Europe for "We Are Your Friends" much to the dismay of Kanye. So to get back at them he did a song with Daft Punk.

[superfiction]

Justice Is Playing At My House.

someone needs to make this t-shirt

[jackstraw94086]

someone needs to make this t-shirt

And on the back you should print a big goatse.

[Bud Luster]

Sooo glad I just looked up goatse!

[kingsblend420]

Sooo glad I just looked up goatse!

dude goatse has been around since the dawn of the innanets when the first TCP/IP packet was sent. Even those guys at DARPA who were on the internet before it was open to the public had goatse.

[signmeup]

OMG KANYE JUSTICE REMIXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"DO THE K.A.N.Y.E.
1234 FIGHT
IM THE WORLDS GREATEST MC
BITCH YOU KNOW THATS RIGHT"

[signmeup]

I saw a commerical for Rhapsody Music last Night with Waters of Nazareth in it, anyone else see that? It doesnt mention Justice, just uses the song.

[mistdevil]

lol just like digitalism in the saturn commercials.. they getting paid !!! speaking of ed banger and kitsune.

[Bud Luster]

dude goatse has been around since the dawn of the innanets when the first TCP/IP packet was sent. Even those guys at DARPA who were on the internet before it was open to the public had goatse.

Oh, so sorry. KB420 = Al Gore???

[fober]

Ask tubgirl about lemonparty.

[paulb]

tubgirl!? Are you talkin about the internet picture? I think i nearly threw up with i saw that....along with goatse...what is lemonparty?

[kingsblend420]

Oh, so sorry. KB420 = Al Gore???

AW man its just a joke. Serial.

[whynotsmile99]

tubgirl!? Are you talkin about the internet picture? I think i nearly threw up with i saw that....along with goatse...what is lemonparty?

lemonparty.org is awesome. One of the greatest sites on the internet. It's not really gross in a tubgirl or goatse kind of way, but very humorous with a risque edge. Like Bill Cosby if he was dirtier. Probably not best to view at work though.

Enjoy!

[Bud Luster]

AW man its just a joke. Serial.

'tsall good. All jokes really. (funny or not) : )

[kingsblend420]

'tsall good. All jokes really. (funny or not) : )

I could have blind-linked you to a goatse, but then I would have had to put a NSFW and well that would have ruined the joke but I could get banned....you see the choices that would have to be made? I couldnt risk it.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

For serial.

[brando4n82]

I saw a commerical for Rhapsody Music last Night with Waters of Nazareth in it, anyone else see that? It doesnt mention Justice, just uses the song.

I logged on just to post that. I couldnt believe it.

[brando4n82]

Let's not forget Justice won video of the year on MTV Europe for "We Are Your Friends" much to the dismay of Kanye. So to get back at them he did a song with Daft Punk.

Lets not forget thats in Europe...

[4Ransom]

Why is everyone confused as to why Justice has a nomination? Simple answer: it's a cool video. You guys act like you've never seen "Best Foreign Video" category for the VMA's. Theres been plenty of nominations over the years for videos MTV hasnt promoted (although the last VMA I actually paid attention to was in...fuck, i think '99. All i know is it was like the return of the Chili Peppers and they played, i think promoting Californication?) Anyways, Yes I know it's up for Best video, but i who cares? they're not gonna win anyways.

best foreign video is completely different. its expected that those dont get played. video of the year is usually one of those videos thats plastered all over mtv all the time. how can you say a video is the best of the year when you dont even play it? that makes them look retarded, which they are i guess.

[shakermaker113]

I never got the VMA's. I used to pay attention in high school, and I was terribly confused that they would always be talking about awards for "best rock video" or whatever when they were actually awarding the song, and it had nothing to do with the videos themselves. it seemed like they were just using the word 'video' because they are mtv and were one of the first people (maybe the first?) to show music videos, but it's dumb. if you're going to have video music awards, award the videos not the songs. if you're going to award the songs, don't use the word 'video'. I hate mtv. rant over.

[brando4n82]

So who's actually going to watch the VMAs tomorrow? I know I am. I cant wait to see Britney Spears attempt a come back, only to crash and burn on stage. no better way to open up an award show

[kingsblend420]

The VMA's are garbage.

[brando4n82]

The VMA's are garbage.

lets not start pointing out the obvious here

[kingsblend420]

I think I am as excited to see Midnight Juggernauts as Justice. This is going to be an EPIC (© Ficklecycle) show.

[brando4n82]

So who else finds this disgusting?

i usually type in "myspace" on google to link me, and it always brings up myspace as the first site. the second link use to be Lilly Allen's myspace, but now you get justice's myspace when you type in "myspace." go ahead, try it yourself. i dare you

[kingsblend420]

So who else finds this disgusting?

i usually type in "myspace" on google to link me, and it always brings up myspace as the first site. the second link use to be Lilly Allen's myspace, but now you get justice's myspace when you type in "myspace." go ahead, try it yourself. i dare you


Your point being?

[ficklecycle]

I think I am as excited to see Midnight Juggernauts as Justice. This is going to be an EPIC (© Ficklecycle) show.

Stop rubbing it in that I don't have a ticket.

[brando4n82]

Your point being?

merely pointing out their ever-growing popularity

[KenMixtape]

Only an ass is disgusted by a band's popularity.

[brando4n82]

As I predicted, Justice lost, Rihanna wins

[keep2thestreets]

i am watching Britney Spears . i want to throw up

[RotationSlimWang]

Who the FUCK is Rihanna? Not that Justice should have won, that video is mediocre. But who the fuck is that?

[brando4n82]

Who the FUCK is Rihanna? Not that Justice should have won, that video is mediocre. But who the fuck is that?

some dumb bitch with a catchy hit with jay z or one of those guys

[brando4n82]

Phantom was playing as Sarah Silverman walked out to totally fucking OWN Britney Spears. She gets mad props for slamming her Right after she finishes her song.

[brando4n82]

Now Waters of Nazareth is playing as Kanye and 50 cent come out to present. Wonder if they got any others coming...

[Robototron]

Who the FUCK is Rihanna? Not that Justice should have won, that video is mediocre. But who the fuck is that?

Her:

http://a483.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/87/l_393750add618d4ab212a14c56b78e5a2.png

[brando4n82]

DANCE of course was just played while going to commercial

[rage patton]

It would have been rad if Kanye won Best Video, and Thomas and Guy (in their suits) presented Kanye with the award.

[xleslie]

Justice is doing an after party of the VMAS in vegas tonight

http://www.frankichan.com/website/justiceovervegas_poster.gif

[leo01g]

damn that sounds cool

[superfiction]

there was a ton of justicde played tonight despite them not winning

[ficklecycle]

From the sound of it, Rihanna won? I love her to be honest. I think she's amazingly talented and she has an amazing voice. I didn't catch the entire show since I had to babysit with my GF. Oh well, Justice didn't win, but we still caught a glimpse of them on our tv's.

[sotaboo]

did anyone watch the pre show? i saw justice walking on the red carpet.. but it shows them really quick

[superfiction]

she has an amazing voice.

we all do with layering and pitch correction

[Ill_Eagle]

I just heard ROSS ROSS ROSS on CSI: Miami


NOT COOL.

[superfiction]

ed banger is bangin on the door of mainstream. its cool though. good for them. they did it their way.

[shakermaker113]

So who else finds this disgusting?

i usually type in "myspace" on google to link me, and it always brings up myspace as the first site. the second link use to be Lilly Allen's myspace, but now you get justice's myspace when you type in "myspace." go ahead, try it yourself. i dare you

whaat? I get www.myspace.com, home.myspace.com, a wikipedia page, a link for news results, music.myspace.com, vids.myspace.com.... justice isn't even on the first page.

[brando4n82]

whaat? I get www.myspace.com, home.myspace.com, a wikipedia page, a link for news results, music.myspace.com, vids.myspace.com.... justice isn't even on the first page.

they have indeed changed the top ten google spots. they must have read my post

[paulb]

those VMAs last night were fuckin horrible!!!!! That was the biggest waste of time ever. They dont even have good artists anymore at all on it. Its just pure Fall Out Boy, Rhianna, Justin Timberlake... Ill never forget the 1998 VMAs when I first discovered the Beastie Boys and they won the Video Vanguard award and they had a great performance, and there was an awesome performance of Ghetto Superstar with Wyclef Jean, Pras, Mia, Ol Dirty Bastard...that shit has gone waaaaaaay downhill

[Bud Luster]

Ill never forget the 1998 VMAs when I first discovered the Beastie Boys

oh no.

[RotationSlimWang]

You discovered The Beastie Boys in 98? So you mean you developed this strong an obsession with them AFTER they'd turned into utter shite? Fascinating.

[algunz]

Yea, '98 seems a little late for that bandwagon.

[rage patton]

Remember guys, Paul B is 19. That means he discovered the Beastie Boys when he was 10.

[algunz]

Oh dear, am I showing my age?

[superfiction]

i was 8

[algunz]

I was 4 years out of college.

[brando4n82]

You discovered The Beastie Boys in 98? So you mean you developed this strong an obsession with them AFTER they'd turned into utter shite? Fascinating.

Ya man, get with, Slim Wang has known them since they released their first demo. He is obviously the true fan. So let me ask you Slim, can strong obsessions for bands and their music occur only if you are familiar with the band from the beginning? or when their music isnt "utter shite?"

[summerkid]

Ya man, get with, Slim Wang has known them since they released their first demo. He is obviously the true fan. So let me ask you Slim, can strong obsessions for bands and their music occur only if you are familiar with the band from the beginning? or when their music isnt "utter shite?"

Randy just hates the Beastie Boys I don't think he even likes Paul's Boutique so anytime he can take a shot at them he will.

[beatboy]

Hey guys, theres gonna be an ED BANGERS party in Tijuana Mexico, is the official after party of JUSTICE, I think that JUSTICE also is gonna be playing in Tijuana.
http://www.myspace.com/redgroove
check out the comments.

[RotationSlimWang]

The Beasties were cool enough in the 80s and through Ill Communication. When Hello Nasty came out they instantly turned into a fucking joke.

[raymfer]

Did you catch the Justice show at The Viper Room last month? Unbelieveable! I found a channel that streams it:
www.scion.com/channel3

[J~$$$]

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w81/barcanard/100_0405.jpg

[J~$$$]

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x77/Shut_Up_Mari/alligator.gif

[J~$$$]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x57/yelowflower/alligator_christmas2.jpg

[JustSteve]

Her:

http://a483.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/87/l_393750add618d4ab212a14c56b78e5a2.png

in an ed banger shirt? haha.

[JustSteve]

all you justice fans will love this, from a myspace bulletin: new remix of a justin timberlke song!

"4 hot new remixes of "LoveStoned/I Think She Knows" are now available at iTunes!

Download all 4 remixes by Justice, Tiesto, Kaskade, and Roc Mafia now at
iTunes."

[paulb]

Ive had that Love Stoned remix for a while now...its pretty good. Alot better with the Justice touch, rather than Timberlakes version

[mistdevil]

nice.

[betao]

Untrue, many artists have played Coachella 2 years in a row. Especially those that played lower on the bill w/ a less desirable time slot, but rocked the fucking house. Saying that Justice will or will not play is purely speculation. Im on the will not side of the fence...



haha you obviously didnt finish reading my post :)

[Derekx]

*cough*kimmel*cough*

[R3d Snapper]

*cough*kimmel*cough*

oh shit, thanks for the heads up, just got my tickets

[suprefan]

This poses a slight problem if you want to go to both. Kimmel ends its taping at 9, so when you are out of there the Fonda show will have started already. Its going to be interesting to see them liek barely 2 hours before they hit the stage and stuff. Then get home after its done and watch yourself on TV too. I got mine, now I just wanna think if I want to do that much line waiting to get up close and personal.

[ficklecycle]

This is gonna be a bitch. How the fuck am I supposed to get to the Fonda after this? And what if I miss Midnight Juggernauts?! FUCK!

[Bosco]

on Kimmel???.....wow, this is bananas

[ficklecycle]

Lame how it's indoors.

[Derekx]

oh shit, thanks for the heads up, just got my tickets

No problem.

Anyone know how many songs artists usually play for indoor concerts on Kimmel? I've been to outdoor and I know they usually play around 5.

[suprefan]

No problem.

Anyone know how many songs artists usually play for indoor concerts on Kimmel? I've been to outdoor and I know they usually play around 5.

They will probably just do 2 since they have to get back to the Fonda right after this. And they usually do a couple more after taping stops if its indoors, but I doubt it.




Lame how it's indoors.

It it was outdoors it would be crazy so be glad its indoors, you will be like as close as you were at the Viper Room.



This is gonna be a bitch. How the fuck am I supposed to get to the Fonda after this? And what if I miss Midnight Juggernauts?! FUCK!

You will miss them or part of them if you do go to this seeing as how it will be done at 9pm.

[ficklecycle]

It it was outdoors it would be crazy so be glad its indoors, you will be like as close as you were at the Viper Room.

You will miss them or part of them if you do go to this seeing as how it will be done at 9pm.

Is it going to be seated? If not, I can live with it.

I guess seeing them twice in one night is worth missing MJ.

[Bosco]

They will probably do 4 songs (in this order):

-Genesis
-D.A.N.C.E.
-Waters of Nazareth
-We Are Your Friends

[ficklecycle]

Sounds good to me.

[rage patton]

Woh... Justice is on Jimmy Kimmel? He always gets the best musical guests. Gogol Bordello kicked ass the other night! Anyone watch it? The crowd looked so confused at the begining. But by the end, everyone was jumping and dancing!
Anyways... what night is Justice playing Kimmel?

[ficklecycle]

Woh... Justice is on Jimmy Kimmel? He always gets the best musical guests. Gogol Bordello kicked ass the other night! Anyone watch it? The crowd looked so confused at the begining. But by the end, everyone was jumping and dancing!
Anyways... what night is Justice playing Kimmel?

Oct 9th.

[kingsblend420]

Is it going to be seated? If not, I can live with it.

I guess seeing them twice in one night is worth missing MJ.

Miss midnight juggernauts? Just for that I am gonna put on some Dystopia. Sucks tooooooo be you.

[ficklecycle]

Miss midnight juggernauts? Just for that I am gonna put on some Dystopia. Sucks tooooooo be you.

Bands usually start at 9 at the Fonda. If it really is over at 9, I'll only miss like 15 of their set. I can live with that. I better hear 45 & Rising though.

[BlueDevil50]

just got 5 tickets to this for me and my friends...gonna be a blast

[ficklecycle]

You gonna scalp em?

[suprefan]

Is it going to be seated? If not, I can live with it.

I guess seeing them twice in one night is worth missing MJ.

The tv taping part is seated, for the performance itself you are in a different area and you are right up close to them and its all standing.


Never watch Jimmy Kimmel?

example of an indoor performance on Jimmy Kimmel

NDIeKPF0eps

find me in the shot, I was there


They will probably do 4 songs (in this order):

-Genesis
-D.A.N.C.E.
-Waters of Nazareth
-We Are Your Friends

IF they do more than 2 songs after they finish the taping.



You gonna scalp em?

Cant scalp something that is always ''oversold'' anyway. Getting a ticket DOES NOT garauntee entrance, read the discalimer.

[KenMixtape]

We went to the Jimmy Kimmel show just to see Spank Rock. It was so completely not worth waiting hours in line and sitting through an hour of Jimmy's lame show to see Spank Rock play 3 songs. Getting close to the stage is impossible unless you're sitting on the very left side of the audience, since that's who gets let out of the room first to the indoor stage.

[cbrl23]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1108/1366416673_e17af48e72_o.jpg

[suprefan]

We went to the Jimmy Kimmel show just to see Spank Rock. It was so completely not worth waiting hours in line and sitting through an hour of Jimmy's lame show to see Spank Rock play 3 songs. Getting close to the stage is impossible unless you're sitting on the very left side of the audience, since that's who gets let out of the room first to the indoor stage.

They kind of changed it now, if you have performance specific tickets you do get priority and they tend to sit you in a certain area for that. So if you had regular tv tickets you kind of get shortchanged on being close.




Edit: I woudl go to TJ just for that afterparty, viva mexico!

[miscorrections]

i should go to that just for kicks.

[BlueDevil50]

You gonna scalp em?

yep...$200 a pop! want one?


still bitter you didnt get a ticket to the real show huh? better luck next time, sport...

[ficklecycle]

yep...$200 a pop! want one?


still bitter you didnt get a ticket to the real show huh? better luck next time, sport...

I need no luck. I have skills. Got ma self a ticket. On the price of on the house.

Begged my mommy to buy me one on ebay (kidding...).

[suprefan]

You should cause odds are Justice will be there too and spin some more.

[ficklecycle]

What are you talking about?

[signmeup]

you guys see than new Kanye video directed by Jonas & Francois featuring Artwork by So-Me as the basis for the entire video?

lame song but good video. I hate Kanye.

[ficklecycle]

I was wondering about that. So he didn't help on the vid?

[leo01g]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1108/1366416673_e17af48e72_o.jpg

What club is this in? I want to go!!!

[vogina]

What club is this in? I want to go!!!

im down

[leo01g]

papas and beer? senor frogs? do they still have that baby rock?

[brando4n82]

Oct 9th.

ahh thank you for the heads up!! Just got two tix. Looks like i will be seeing them on the 9th after all! Hopefully they will hand out tix for the Fonda! I actually just saw Modest Mouse last night for the Kimmel show. The drummer came out and handed out a bunch of pairs of tix for this Fridays show at the Santa Barbara Bowl. I'm psyched cuz I wanted to go to that show but no way i was gonna pay 45$ to see them. Anyhoo, same shit better happen.

[ficklecycle]

Woot. If that were to happen then my friends would be going to both.

[signmeup]

I was wondering about that. So he didn't help on the vid?

Yeah he did, he did the artwork/animation for the entire video.

[ficklecycle]

Oh okay good.

[cbrl23]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb64/komanche_01/ftrhju.jpg

[anti-square]

sweet

[Boourns]

Just scored a ticket to the Jimmy Kimmel performance. Wonder how early I should get in line. I guess this makes up for the fact that we were denied a much-needed second show. Oh well, half the Henry Fonda crowd will be industry douches anyway.

[paulb]

The most recent addition to my collection...the quest continues...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/paulbonardelli/edbangergreenblack.jpg

[fatbastard]

Just scored a ticket to the Jimmy Kimmel performance. Wonder how early I should get in line. I guess this makes up for the fact that we were denied a much-needed second show. Oh well, half the Henry Fonda crowd will be industry douches anyway.

6:30PM

[suprefan]

6:30PM

You know thats arrival time Henry, come on now.


I seriosuly would go to TJ for that after party.

[4Ransom]

I seriosuly would go to TJ for that after party.

damnit, am i the only one who has a fuckin job around here?

id love to go to that, but being in TJ till 4am might make working on monday just a little tough. as it is im wondering how the hell im gonna show up to work after just going to see them at 4th and b that night.

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

damnit, am i the only one who has a fuckin job around here?

id love to go to that, but being in TJ till 4am might make working on monday just a little tough. as it is im wondering how the hell im gonna show up to work after just going to see them at 4th and b that night.

I am a working man and I feel you. I had to leave underworld early the other night because they ran so late..only missed 2 songs though...

[kingsblend420]

damnit, am i the only one who has a fuckin job around here?

id love to go to that, but being in TJ till 4am might make working on monday just a little tough. as it is im wondering how the hell im gonna show up to work after just going to see them at 4th and b that night.

Just suck it up and drag ass at work. Its one day. Unless you are like a surgeon or something. But if you are a cube jockey then who gives a fuck.

[psychic friend]

Just suck it up and drag ass at work. Its one day. Unless you are like a surgeon or something. But if you are a cube jockey then who gives a fuck.

just remember to consider the source of such comments.


just sayin

[kingsblend420]

just remember to consider the source of such comments.


just sayin

Aw, come on now. And you should consider your sources as I am the proud busy bee of a giant corporation and as such, am classified as a Paper Processing Specialst who works in a cube.

[leo01g]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb64/komanche_01/ftrhju.jpg

YES!!! i dont have school till 4pm monday and i know my way around TJ. Totally going to this!

[suprefan]

damnit, am i the only one who has a fuckin job around here?

id love to go to that, but being in TJ till 4am might make working on monday just a little tough. as it is im wondering how the hell im gonna show up to work after just going to see them at 4th and b that night.




I would just take my work clothes with me if I left there at 5 am or something on the notion that I would barely make it to work at 8am just cause of traffic. And I was a zombie after the Ed Banger Viper Room party but I made it to work the next day, it was worth it. And I am sure you really want to go, I guess not all of us can handle it as well as we used to?



question

L.A. AFTER PARTY WHERE ARE YOU!?!?!

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

just remember to consider the source of such comments.


just sayin

Gracias!

[ficklecycle]

This thing is 21+ right?

[anti-square]

No. Just stay home.

[leo01g]

This thing is 21+ right?

No, i hope not. This is fucking Mexico, the legal drinking age is 18.

[ficklecycle]

If anyone gets info on that, post it.

[cbrl23]

18+

[4Ransom]

Just suck it up and drag ass at work. Its one day. Unless you are like a surgeon or something. But if you are a cube jockey then who gives a fuck.

well, im somewhat of a cube jockey, but not really. im IT, so depending on how the day goes, I may have to talk to a lot of people throughout the day. i also have to do quite a bit of critical thinking sometimes. although sometimes i can get away with being a zombie, but not to the extent of how fucked i would be if i didnt get back from TJ until 5 am. I would have to take the day off if i wanted to go to this, but ive already used up a crapload of time off, so not sure. ill have to think about it...


I would just take my work clothes with me if I left there at 5 am or something on the notion that I would barely make it to work at 8am just cause of traffic. And I was a zombie after the Ed Banger Viper Room party but I made it to work the next day, it was worth it. And I am sure you really want to go, I guess not all of us can handle it as well as we used to?

yea, well its easier for you since you dont put any kind of substances in your body, so its just lack of sleep. add to that a giant alcohol and ecstasy hangover and its a different story.

[suprefan]

yea, well its easier for you since you dont put any kind of substances in your body, so its just lack of sleep. add to that a giant alcohol and ecstasy hangover and its a different story.


Good point, I never factored that in, so yes it would be an insane hassle for you to recover fast enough to be decent at work.

[ThomThom]

I was a comatose patient the day after the Ed Banger party at The Viper Room.

[anti-square]

that would be a good thing. I for one, can't wait.

[ThomThom]

I told myself the entire night not to drink alot and tried to convince myself to go to work the next day and my body told me to eat shit and die so I just called in sick...Thanks alot Ed Banger crew!

[anti-square]

im sure your still holding the same job..so the thanks is not sarcastic?

[suprefan]

I was a comatose patient the day after the Ed Banger party at The Viper Room.


I can vouch for this from him, I called him on my lunch break at like 1pm and he had just woke up. TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!!!

[kingsblend420]

I told myself the entire night not to drink alot and tried to convince myself to go to work the next day and my body told me to eat shit and die so I just called in sick...Thanks alot Ed Banger crew!

sigged

[kingsblend420]

Dear Justice Essential Mix,

Have I told you how much I love you lately?

Sincerely,

Fan

[mrtoilet]

do you need a passport to get into TJ?:dumbo

[JustSteve]

And I was a zombie after the Ed Banger Viper Room party but I made it to work the next day, it was worth it.

it really takes a lot to sit on message boards all day submitting post after post.

[kingsblend420]

do you need a passport to get into TJ?:dumbo

No. But to get into the USA, Yes.

[mrtoilet]

No. But to get into the USA, Yes.

damn!

how long does it take to get one? :nono

[kingsblend420]

damn!

how long does it take to get one? :nono

I remember news reports that they had a huge backup when the new passport laws went into effect and that they granted temporary amnesty to US citizen coming back from mexico/canada that could prove they had applied for a passport but had not received it yet. I would go here if you have any questions: http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html

It used to be 3 months but now I think its down to 6 weeks. But here's the catch. You should carefully read the requirements to apply for a passport because you need a certified birth certificate (or I think the original will be OK I dont know) to successfully get a passport. And here is the rub, to get a certified birth certificate (if you were born in California) is going to take 4-6 weeks period. So you cant even apply for the passport until you get that. So I would look into that man.

[fober]

http://www.einslive.de/includes/bildergalerie/256/media/1_64_detail2.jpg


Justice - Klubbing 2007-07-14. Justice mix for Germany station E1nsLive (http://themixingbowl.org/topics.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=52717&page=1#438603)

As it says in the thread, that's just part of their Essential Mix that was broadcasted. Nothing new.

[kingsblend420]

As it says in the thread, that's just part of their Essential Mix that was broadcasted. Nothing new.

Probably, if it is I will take it down.

[suprefan]

damn!

how long does it take to get one? :nono


This is what Kingsblend couldnt find you so you know whats up. Glad I have mine and it doesnt expire until 2010 MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.


The U.S. Departments of State and Homeland Security announced Friday, June 8, that U.S. citizens traveling to Canada, Mexico, Bermuda or countries in the Caribbean region, who have applied for, but not yet received passports, can re-enter the United States by air. This accommodation will expire at the end of September, and beginning October 1, 2007, all U.S. Citizens traveling outside the United States will be required to present a valid passport to enter and depart from the United States. This accommodation does not mean that Americans are exempt from meeting the entry requirements of Canada, Mexico, Bermuda or countries in the Caribbean region, some of which require a passport, certified birth certificate, or other evidence of citizenship for entry.

We have reached out to the governments of countries affected by WHTI to consult with them about our announcement. Many of them have agreed to take a flexible approach toward their own entry requirements. For the most current information on entry requirements at their destination, travelers should contact their airline.

U.S. citizens traveling to Canada, Mexico, Bermuda or countries in the Caribbean region who have applied for, but not yet received passports, can re-enter the United States by air by presentation of a government issued photo identification and Department of State official proof of application for a passport through September 30, 2007. The federal government is making this accommodation for air travel due to longer than expected processing times for passport applications in the face of record-breaking demand. U.S. Citizens who departed the U.S. under this travel accommodation prior to October 1, 2007 with Department of State official proof of application and government-issued identification will be readmitted with these same documents if returning to the United States after September 30.

The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) was mandated by Congress in the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 to strengthen border security and facilitate entry into the United States for citizens and legitimate international visitors. WHTI requirements for air travel took effect on January 23, 2007.

Adults who have applied for but not yet received a passport should present government-issued photo identification and an official proof of application from the U.S. Department of State. Children under the age of 16 traveling with their parents or legal guardian will be permitted to travel with the child’s proof of application status. Children traveling alone should carry a copy of their birth certificate, baptismal record or a hospital record of birth in the United States in addition to their passport application status documentation. This accommodation applies to all American citizens who apply for passports, until September 30, when this accommodation period ends. U.S. citizens with pending passport applications can obtain proof of application at: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/status/status_2567.html.

Since implementation, U.S. Customs and Border Protection has and will continue to exercise its current authorities in unique circumstances to allow individuals subject to the WHTI requirements into the United States based on other evidence of identity and citizenship.

Travel document security remains a top priority for the U.S. Government. Both the 9/11 Commission and the U.S. Congress urged strengthening of travel documents to prevent entry of terrorists across our borders, reduce use of fraudulent documents, and speed up entry procedures.

[kingsblend420]

This is what Kingsblend couldnt find you so you know whats up. Glad I have mine and it doesnt expire until 2010 MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Yup I got mine too. Can go anywhere I want. And for the record I dont do peoples legwork looking for info on the internet.

[kingsblend420]

This is what Kingsblend couldnt find you so you know whats up. Glad I have mine and it doesnt expire until 2010 MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Yup I got mine too. Can go anywhere I want. And for the record I dont do peoples legwork looking for info on the internet. And, techically, everything I said was true.

[suprefan]

You actually did with even posting the passport url and whatnot, I just gave more specifics. Anyway, I wanna go to that though, it would be fun partying it up with all the mexican cuties.

[mistdevil]

INSTITUBES TONIGHT!!!!

[cbrl23]

You don't need passport to go to TJ or to get back to the US, you only need your ID and just to be safe bring your birth certificate, but start the process to get your passport, next year you are going to need it by law.

[anti-square]

True. I cross the border all the time going in and out only using my state ID. I wouldn't worry about 'til next year, but definitely start working on that passport as of now.

[Robototron]

INSTITUBES TONIGHT!!!!

I'm so excited about this. It just sucks that they stuck them in the tiny ass Echo.

[ficklecycle]

You kidding? I wish I could go to that. The Echo is perfect.

[KenMixtape]

Echo, Echoplex, Troubadour and Spaceland are 4 great perks of living in Los Angeles.

[Robototron]

You kidding? I wish I could go to that. The Echo is perfect.

I fucking hate the Echo, it's my least favorite venue in LA. Tiny and poorly laid out. They'd be better off putting them in the Echoplex. Pretty much everyone I know is going just to see them, and the Echoplex is twice the size (I'd like to actually dance, instead of just pogoing up and down in place for a few hours).

And KenMixtape, you forgot The Smell.

[KenMixtape]

I've not been there.
My least favorite venue is The Wiltern. I haven't been back there since Scissor Sisters in late 2004. It's impossible to see anything if you're short, and only asswipe industry people get into the Pit. At least that's what it was like then.

[brando4n82]

I've not been there.
My least favorite venue is The Wiltern. I haven't been back there since Scissor Sisters in late 2004. It's impossible to see anything if you're short, and only asswipe industry people get into the Pit. At least that's what it was like then.

you probably had a bad experience because you saw the scissor sisters

[KenMixtape]

ohhh burn!!

anyways... can someone tell me who does that Killing in the Name mix, ed banger style?

[suprefan]

ohhh burn!!

anyways... can someone tell me who does that Killing in the Name mix, ed banger style?

SebastiAn



google is your friend ya know.


I did know the answer though, just saying.

[signmeup]

INSTITUBES TONIGHT!!!!

I went to their show in Seattle the other night and those guys know how to fucking party! Definatley the most fun Ive had in a while. the crowd was super lame though, I guess thats why no one ever plays in seattle.

I swear to god Surkin looks like hes like 15! (hes 21)


ohhh burn!!

anyways... can someone tell me who does that Killing in the Name mix, ed banger style?

the one youre probably thinking of is the Mr.Oizo remix, theres also a SebastiAn one too.

[fober]

The Oizo and SebastiAn are one in the same.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Trick Loves The Kids]

i'm debating going to institubes tonight

on one hand i don't know anyone who would even consider going with me (i'm home from school for a horrible, horrible week) and i can't drink/don't have drugs but on the other hand i want to rave anyway

[Trick Loves The Kids]

fuck it I got a ticket

i'm wearing this shirt http://www.krudmart.com/images/2KMKL18.jpg so if you see me say hi. i'll be in the institubes room all night.

[signmeup]

fuck it I got a ticket

i'm wearing this shirt http://www.krudmart.com/images/2KMKL18.jpg so if you see me say hi. i'll be in the institubes room all night.

Nice T. I love Michael Leon.

[mistdevil]

curses!, orgasmic was alright..
surkin killed it.


curses! kinda got annoying during the night,

I was pissed they didn't let surkin finish the night with one more time..

[gaypalmsprings]

Jimmy Kimmel indoor mini-concert Tuesday, October 9 @ 5:30 PM

http://www.1iota.com/shows,Jimmy-Kimmel-Live,1.html

[brando4n82]

ya that shit sold out Quick

[Trick Loves The Kids]

curses!, orgasmic was alright..
surkin killed it.


curses! kinda got annoying during the night,

I was pissed they didn't let surkin finish the night with one more time..

cot damn that show was fun, i'm really glad i went. orgasmic was probably my favorite set, his whole t.pain/soulja boy/some other track thing was awesome. they all seemed like they were having a great time, there were like 20 people on stage at one point.

were you there when they were passing around that leaf blower and then a bunch of people started fighting? what the fuck

[leo01g]

How does one get a TJ after party ticket?
Supre go ahead and be an asshole because i know you'll be an asshole but give me the answers i want. thanks!
(Im talking about the ones before the show)

[suprefan]

Jimmy Kimmel indoor mini-concert Tuesday, October 9 @ 5:30 PM

http://www.1iota.com/shows,Jimmy-Kimmel-Live,1.html



:clears throat:: Go back a few pages, a little late to the party.



Edit: Datarock the next day though, hmmmmm.

[suprefan]

How does one get a TJ after party ticket?
Supre go ahead and be an asshole because i know you'll be an asshole but give me the answers i want. thanks!
(Im talking about the ones before the show)

I dont know, I havent looked into it. If I was going I wouldve let you know, but I'll have an answer in an hour, hows that? And look, it was the non a**hole answer.

[leo01g]

haha i like when you're an a**hole it makes me laugh!

[gaypalmsprings]

there are still JK tix available
sheesh

[suprefan]

haha i like when you're an a**hole it makes me laugh!

Glad I can be of service.


If Justice isnt ''sold out' right now that means somebody put their tickets back in the mix. When I checked hey were out. I am sure any one of you who wants to go can get in there. Also, get show tickets and you can still watch them. Performance only ones just make it better because you get to be up front.

[gaypalmsprings]

In the indoor theatre, even not "up front" is close. I mean, it's the theatre lobby. I was referring to the studio tix. Right now it says TBD, but often times the guests on taping stage include the musical guests.

[suprefan]

Correct, I woudl laugh if Jimmy interviwed Justice. I coudl see him doing a parody of the D.A.N.C.E. video with uncle Frank wearing like 50 t shirts or something. Maybe with the extra early call time they tape an hour earlier, but I doubt it. The logistic of this stink, I have to haul a** to the Fonda if I do go to the taping and miss some of Midnight Juggernaughts.

[leo01g]

there are still JK tix available
sheesh

Which are u referring to?

[suprefan]

Regular taping ones, not performance specific tickets.

[rage patton]

Correct, I woudl laugh if Jimmy interviwed Justice. I coudl see him doing a parody of the D.A.N.C.E. video with uncle Frank wearing like 50 t shirts or something. Maybe with the extra early call time they tape an hour earlier, but I doubt it. The logistic of this stink, I have to haul a** to the Fonda if I do go to the taping and miss some of Midnight Juggernaughts.

Midnight Juggernauts are gonna kick ass! I am really excited to see them actually.
However, that parody with Uncle Frank would be pretty damn funny.

[leo01g]

Regular taping ones, not performance specific tickets.

wtf are regular taping?
(Real question)

[suprefan]

OK, so when you go to Jimmy Kimmel, there are 2 different kinds of tickets you can have. One is strictly for the show. Like you wanted to see Jessica Alba or whatever right? Then lets say Justice was the musical guest. Then there are performance specific tickets, either the performance is indoors or outside depending on the artist. If they are performing indoors and you have performance specific tickets, you get to be in the group of people that is all up close and personal with the band, cause there is like 2 feet between you and them while they perform. Odds are if you are in front you get on camera and stuff If you didnt get performance specific tickets you are in the back and watch it etc etc etc. If you had performance specific tickets and it was outside, its a whole different thing. They have a seperate line and all that and they let you in about the same time as the in studio audience. You just wait there in front of the stage and they show the taping happenign inside on the screens. Then they like reheares a bit how they will do the cameras and stuff before the band comes on, they put the camera in the crowd and make you cheer. Then when its time for the band to come on they move everyoen from inside the studio to the outside and the guests watch form the side of the stage. they do 2 songs for TV then after that its up to the band to play a few more or finish. If its indoors, usually 2 or 3 more songs. If its outside, I have had performances be like 7 or 8 songs which was nice, but that rarely happens. Anywya, hopefully that explains things. Keep askign questions if I confused you.

[kingsblend420]

Midnight Juggernauts are gonna kick ass! I am really excited to see them actually.
However, that parody with Uncle Frank would be pretty damn funny.


Yeah they are!!! Its gonna be so fucking sick!

[mistdevil]

cot damn that show was fun, i'm really glad i went. orgasmic was probably my favorite set, his whole t.pain/soulja boy/some other track thing was awesome. they all seemed like they were having a great time, there were like 20 people on stage at one point.

were you there when they were passing around that leaf blower and then a bunch of people started fighting? what the fuck

yea I was trick it was pretty funny tho..

[leo01g]

OK, so when you go to Jimmy Kimmel, there are 2 different kinds of tickets you can have. One is strictly for the show. Like you wanted to see Jessica Alba or whatever right? Then lets say Justice was the musical guest. Then there are performance specific tickets, either the performance is indoors or outside depending on the artist. If they are performing indoors and you have performance specific tickets, you get to be in the group of people that is all up close and personal with the band, cause there is like 2 feet between you and them while they perform. Odds are if you are in front you get on camera and stuff If you didnt get performance specific tickets you are in the back and watch it etc etc etc. If you had performance specific tickets and it was outside, its a whole different thing. They have a seperate line and all that and they let you in about the same time as the in studio audience. You just wait there in front of the stage and they show the taping happenign inside on the screens. Then they like reheares a bit how they will do the cameras and stuff before the band comes on, they put the camera in the crowd and make you cheer. Then when its time for the band to come on they move everyoen from inside the studio to the outside and the guests watch form the side of the stage. they do 2 songs for TV then after that its up to the band to play a few more or finish. If its indoors, usually 2 or 3 more songs. If its outside, I have had performances be like 7 or 8 songs which was nice, but that rarely happens. Anywya, hopefully that explains things. Keep askign questions if I confused you.

i get it thanks!
Damn im excited Detour on Saturday and then TJ on Sunday

[anti-square]

if your going to tj on sunday, might as well get tix for hob no?

[leo01g]

i cant im not 21

[chiapet]

If its indoors, usually 2 or 3 more songs. If its outside, I have had performances be like 7 or 8 songs which was nice, but that rarely happens. Anywya, hopefully that explains things. Keep askign questions if I confused you.

You almost made me want to be unemployed and living in the LA area.

[vogina]

rabel rabel rabel

[suprefan]

You almost made me want to be unemployed and living in the LA area.

Yeah well. keep dreaming.......

[gaypalmsprings]

wtf are regular taping?
(Real question)

Regular tickets - you get to watch the show (in chairs) & then watch the live performance in the lobby. Also, this studio seating usually allows up to 4 people, whereas the concert only is up to 2 people.

My experience too is that the artist usually sings 5 songs - but as few as 2. That's why it's a mini-concert.

[4Ransom]

anybody figure out if theres a way to get on the list for the TJ party? i think i might have to sack it up and go to this. fuck work, ill just take the day off. cant miss what might be my only chance to hit up an ed banger party...before they get too big and sell out, that is. :)

[leo01g]

yeah i am going if i dont find or get tickets before i guess ill just try to get them on the day.

[Robototron]

anybody figure out if theres a way to get on the list for the TJ party? i think i might have to sack it up and go to this. fuck work, ill just take the day off. cant miss what might be my only chance to hit up an ed banger party...before they get too big and sell out, that is. :)

You know the next day is Columbus Day, right?

[suprefan]

You know the next day is Columbus Day, right?

So I mean, the post office and other federal agencies gets the day off but not really anyone else. How is this going to help?

[4Ransom]

You know the next day is Columbus Day, right?

yea dude, this is the real world, not jr high. no Columbus day off for me.

[suprefan]

I wonder if you can check on the going.com site for the after party and get on the list that way. And you got my payment for that thing right sexecutioner?

[kingsblend420]

This is also in the tickets section but since this thread gets alot more love: If I had an extra Justice ticket would anyone want it?

(for the SF show)

[cbrl23]

keep checking KIMIKA.org for info on the TJ Show, they are going to post something as soon as they release some presale tickets, the venue is not that big (1000 - 1200 ) I don't think there is a list...

[leo01g]

i think it can hold a little more than that, there was an event that held 2500+

[leo01g]

Would we be able to buy tickets here in the US?

[4Ransom]

edit: nvmd, i was drunk and confused at the time of post

[cbrl23]

i think it can hold a little more than that, there was an event that held 2500+

I just notice that, I went to the MSTRKRFT show in that place, Kimika's website said the capacity was 1200 and it was really crowded, I dont see how can they get another 1000 people in.

[xleslie]

Article in today's Calendar Weekend about the dance-music scene.

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/9/20/t_IMG6902m_ab262e9.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/20/f_IMG6902m_ab262e9.jpg&srv=img37) http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/9/20/t_IMG6901m_35f7270.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/20/f_IMG6901m_35f7270.jpg&srv=img02)

[rage patton]

Anyone know if there are going to be any Ed Banger after parties after each Justice show on this tour?

[Trick Loves The Kids]

Article in today's Calendar Weekend about the dance-music scene.

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/9/20/t_IMG6902m_ab262e9.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/20/f_IMG6902m_ab262e9.jpg&srv=img37) http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/9/20/t_IMG6901m_35f7270.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/20/f_IMG6901m_35f7270.jpg&srv=img02)

if you know anything about Busy P it completely changes this article

[suprefan]

Article in today's Calendar Weekend about the dance-music scene.

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/9/20/t_IMG6902m_ab262e9.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/20/f_IMG6902m_ab262e9.jpg&srv=img37) http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/9/20/t_IMG6901m_35f7270.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/20/f_IMG6901m_35f7270.jpg&srv=img02)


You could just copy and paste the article from the l.a. times site ya know.



Turning the beat around again
The dance-music scene embraces a new strain of disco along with a rock attitude.



By Margaret Wappler, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer


A few months after British magazine NME shouted it from the rooftops, singer Jamie Reynolds pulled the rug out from under "nu rave" -- the sly new term surgically attached to his band, Klaxons. Turns out he made it up to get his band attention.

"It was funny that something that didn't ever really disappear could in fact be new," Reynolds said. "And then to put that to as many journalists as possible to get them to talk about nothing."


"Nu rave" might be a farce, but it hints at something bigger -- a thriving dance-music scene that has spawned several mutations. These strains include the minimalist dance-punk of LCD Soundsystem, the analog classicism of Simian Mobile Disco, the fanatical electro-thrash of Justice, the international amalgam of M.I.A., the agitated funk of !!! (Chk Chk Chk) and the art-schooled disco-sleaze of Cansei de Ser Sexy.

Not only are the pop-and-locking kids in fluorescent T-shirts with Tetris-like graphics crazy for it, England's music establishment is sold -- Klaxons just snagged the Nationwide Mercury Prize for its psychedelic "Myths of the Near Future," a debut better described as post-rave paranoia.

Beyond the dance-tent bookings at the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival or the playlist at the Echo Park dance night Check Yo' Ponytail, the current dance-music scene has embraced the once-maligned aesthetics of technology, showmanship and creative appropriation. Synthesized into a live show, the result is communal euphoria.

It's also a response to the fickle tastes of the indie kids, perhaps the most effective, time-honored catalyst for change.

"There's this periodic rediscovery by indie rockers that dancing is fun," said Simon Reynolds, author of the rave and post-punk histories "Generation Ecstasy" and "Rip It Up and Start Again." "Lots of these bands are going back to the punk-funk thing. . . . Kids hearing it now maybe don't realize that in the '70s, for instance, every white band wanted that Chic guitar sound."

Disco is one of the touchstones of the new movement, but most influences come from another decade.

In the early to mid-'90s, dance music was considered intellectually vacuous and critically inferior to authenticity-obsessed grunge and indie rock. A few dance acts such as Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk and Prodigy were able to squeeze through the critical vise and score covers at rockist institutions like Spin magazine.

James Murphy, LCD Soundsystem's frontman, considers the division between dance music and rock flimsy, though he doesn't deny once harboring a bias: "I used to think of dance music as really cheesy."

Historically, Murphy thinks the genre has suffered from harsher prejudices. "I think that a lot of reaction against disco was racist and homophobic," he said. "There was this criticism that it wasn't serious rock white-dude music, sort of like when you're a little boy and you say, 'That's girl music.' "

Perhaps it stayed in the shadows because of racism and homophobia, but the specific critiques, that dance music is fatuous and coldly technological, were considered endemic. Nowadays, those qualities are celebrated, an idea that Daft Punk popularized with its 1997 debut, "Homework."

The Parisian duo, Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo, that performs in robot attire designed by rocker-designer Hedi Slimane, have established itself as the godfathers of the current scene.

PEACHES, the Canadian artist who sets nasty tangles of guitars against slithery beats, remembers when she first heard Daft Punk.

"I realized that dance music could have a rock attitude without sounding industrial. It was brutal but minimal," she said via e-mail from Berlin, where she is recording a new album. "I just decided to take my favorite parts from each genre and mix it together. Dance music has the sickest sounds and can be harder sounding than any guitar. There is nothing like a killer rock riff."

For Sri Lankan native Maya Arulpragasam, known as M.I.A., dance music's clean surfaces provide an ideal platform for launching bigger political ideas. "It's really primitive, but also mathematical," she said from San Francisco, where she was making a video with Spike Jonze. For "Arular," "I needed to make it danceable while I said some heavy stuff . . . the things going on in Sri Lanka were so shocking and outrageous."

She also points toward other dance genres that have international muscle -- dancehall or grime, for instance -- as important parts of the equation. "The scene is so morphed, but that's what makes it different from the '90s Ibiza-style dance music. Different kids are bringing different elements to it."

Steve Aoki, the hustling, jet-setting Angeleno with a record label (Dim Mak) that has evolved into a fashion line (designed by Klaxons' Jamie Reynolds and Simon Taylor-Davis) and lifestyle brand, posits the harder strains of dance music as the new punk rock.

"Punk as a term is more than a sound; it's a culture," he said. "Ten years ago, I got involved with hard-core punk for the screaming guitars and the energy of watching 100 kids jumping along. You can't even describe that energy."

Aoki is the American ambassador for much of the European-based dance scene, or as Pedro Winter, head of the Paris-based record label Ed Banger, says, "He's the Los Angeles me." Both proudly reference the Dim Mak party at Echoplex the day after Coachella as the frenetic apex of their efforts. That momentum lives on in events such as Dim Mak's upcoming second annual Neighborhood Festival.

Winter, who manages Daft Punk, has gathered a tribe of artists, including Mr. Oizo and Uffie, around his marquee band Justice, the production duo Gaspard Augé and Xavier de Rosnay, known for hypnotizing and ferocious concerts. It's a page stolen not only from Daft Punk but also from Mick Jagger and Slayer.

"We are completely into the rock-star thing," Winter said. "I'm not into electronic music. I'm into entertainment music."

At the same time, Aoki and Winter, standing so close to the blazing sun of trend-setting, realize the value in cultivating their artists. "We are throwing parties in Singapore, Berlin and Melbourne," Winter said. "We are wearing the same sneakers, same coats. This is the crazy part and the funny thing. . . . We are a family who wants to grow together. We take our time. Let's not do everything in one or two years."

M.I.A. sees it as a family too, but one that transcends the differences.

"Anything can happen in dance music. You have gay people, white, black people. It doesn't really have a face. It's experimental constantly."

margaret.wappler

@latimes.com

[kingsblend420]

"We are completely into the rock-star thing," Winter said. "I'm not into electronic music. I'm into entertainment music."

WOoooooW.

[ficklecycle]

THEY ADDED A SECOND DATE!

[proxima]

justice saturday, sunday and monday . . . it's going to be insane!!

[kingsblend420]

LA sucks

.....so lonely....I feel like I am the only one who will be at the SF show.

[ficklecycle]

http://www.livesets.com/forums/images/smilies/disco.gif

[rage patton]

THEY ADDED A SECOND DATE!

So you are seeing Justice 3 times in 2 days?

[leo01g]

oh shit im getting mine 2morrow!

[Bosco]

THEY ADDED A SECOND DATE!



http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=260141&postcount=471


just sayin...

[leo01g]

nice call

[mistdevil]

nice one richard... =P im being hella sarcastic btw.

[suprefan]

http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=260141&postcount=471


just sayin...


Uh huh, and you had to srach liek a mad man for that post. Well it took them almost 2 months to add it hows that?

[ficklecycle]

& it aint a bigger venue.

[mistdevil]

RICHARD THE MARK!

[suprefan]

& it aint a bigger venue.

True dat, hey pm me about your situation for Muse. Just syaing, better to carpool than go seperate and stuff.

[brando4n82]

Hmmm, so i wasnt gonna get a ticket for the second Fonda date, considering I'll see them DJing at Detour and play a few live trax on Kimmel, but If I learned anything from the Melvins show i went to last week, it's that i need to see a full live set from these guys. But, is the Fonda show 21+ ?

[mistdevil]

justice saturday, sunday and monday . . . it's going to be insane!!

saturday, monday, tuesday you mean..

[ThomThom]

Well fuck me sideways...a second date!

[proxima]

saturday, monday, tuesday you mean..

i have tickets for san diego. i didnt get any for the original fonda date.

[suprefan]

Who da man? See you guys on the 8th.

[mistdevil]

i have tickets for san diego. i didnt get any for the original fonda date.

oh thats stinks hehe..

at work I got my tickets for the 8th. chris thanks for the tip yesterday at AF =P

[brando4n82]

is the Fonda show 21+ ?

???

[mistdevil]

fonda isnt a 21+ venue bro.

[keep2thestreets]

got my tickets. thanks supre 4 the heads up

********************** †*******************************

[suprefan]

The fonda IS NOT 21 and up, but hey we should get it to be so you cant get in.



You're welcome sean, see you at Detour

[KenMixtape]

Well fuck me sideways...a second date!

fastest $103 I ever spent
(3 tix will call)

[brando4n82]

The fonda IS NOT 21 and up, but hey we should get it to be so you cant get in.



You're welcome sean, see you at Detour

But dooooood, why would you want me to miss the show? ITs gonna be really fun. Plus, Isnt that against policy? Look, why don't we just meet up at the show (Oct. 8th), inbetween MJ and Justice's set, see who can do the best crip walk, and then get some Jack and Coke. You get the Jack, I'll get the Coke. Then after the show we can meet up in the parking lot and see where things go. You down supre?

[oooduga]

Just got my ticket for the new date so happy it got added.


Going alone though cause my girlfriend has class shittty.

anyone want to charge the front with me.

[suprefan]

Ok, if yoou are thinking of doing this, then everyone wants to and its going to suck at both shows. Bros going all crazy pushing instead of dancing. Dont try it around me, you might end up on the ground.

[oooduga]

hahaha i didnt mean like pushing pass people

just getting in line early

ill be there strictly to dance im too keen on "moshing" I will be bring some kush though

[crazzz2007]

wow, i just bought some tickets to the new Justice date. i've never been raped so hard by Ticketmaster before.

if you were to buy just one ticket, the $23 ticket will end up costing you $40.50.

Convenience charge = $8
Order Processing Fee = $5
Ticketfast = $2.50
Building Facility Fee = $2

TOTAL ADDITIONAL CHARGES = $17.50

That's a 76% markup!!!! That's fucking insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!