Justice Billed Over Fatboy Slim: Is nothing impervious to hype?

[xbnmx]

Can someone please explain to me how a production team with one album and less than a year touring as a live act can possibly be billed over a stapble of the international DJ scene who's been at it for well over a decade and has been topping festival line-ups for years?

[evilmushroompie]

No. No one can. It is a fucked up thing.

[thelastgreatman]

Honestly though, as someone who's mildly into EDM but very critical of it, I have yet to see a Fatboy clip that remotely made me want to see him. That Brighton Beach shit SUCKED. The clips of Justice in the Sahara last year are at least mildly entertaining, although they still kinda suck.

[Yookeroo]

Fatboy should be billed higher, but does it really matter? Do we really care about billing?

[zenidogx]

goldenvoice <3 justice

it's that simple.

[Bud Luster]

Actually, Norman has a lot to prove these days. His production has fallen off and his dj sets last year left a lot to be desired. He needs to go back to the nasty big beat mixed with funky acid noise and keep the set rocking and fun.

[thelastgreatman]

It's been a long time since Praise You. C'mon, people.

[captncrzy]

Who fucking cares.

[paulb]

who cares, they are both playing Coachella, you'll have a chance to see both acts, its not like Fatboy Slim is opening for Justice. and if you compair the Friday lineup to the Sunday lineup, they are billed at the same position, and there are no electronic acts as big as Justice on the sunday lineup, and Fatboy Slim is the biggest electronic act on friday... so shut up.

[BeHereNOW]

in the line up by day they are about the same

[Memorial_07]

Justice was more demanded than Fatboy was.

[MonsoonSeason]

justice is currently more popular with the hipsters. deal.

[orbit]

And hipsters are invading the Sahara.

[gratytrainridesagain]

hahaha

[thelastgreatman]

Also, they're billed at the end of one line with Fatboy the second name on the line just beneath them. They're both closing the tent, Justice on the bigger night. And for Coachella's crowd, of course Justice is going to be a bigger name. How are you people still clinging onto some notion that Fatboy was like groundbreaking or some shit? He ain't Underworld, motherfuckers.

[Sonicifyouwantit]

just look back at billing on previous years posters and compare to set times. Just because someones name is billed higher does not mean they will be playing later or get a bigger stage.

[rage patton]

Originally Posted by Sonicifyouwantit

just look back at billing on previous years posters and compare to set times. Just because someones name is billed higher does not mean they will be playing later or get a bigger stage.

At Coachella, billing has NOTHING to do with when they will play. For the most part, billing arguments are about the principal behind it.

[Sonicifyouwantit]

Originally Posted by rage patton

At Coachella, billing has NOTHING to do with when they will play. For the most part, billing arguments are about the principal behind it.

I know just trying to give some hope

[Memorial_07]

on the poster, if they are billed higher its probably for hype.
or who is popular at the time.
and someone mentioned earlier that how high they are billed doesn't correspond with their time slot or stage.

[ChiefThunderFist]

Why? Because Justice's show at the Fonda last fall was an epic experience (key word being "experience" and not "set").

Rarely do you see a crowd go so crazy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C36qvOErp...related&search

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Nn9CnxX...search=JUSTICE

People literally crowd surfed from the front to the back. That never happens in LA.

[kingsblend420]

Originally Posted by Memorial_07

on the poster, if they are billed higher its probably for hype.
or who is popular at the time.
and someone mentioned earlier that how high they are billed doesn't correspond with their time slot or stage.

Yeah. Last year VNV Nation closed one the tents on Sunday. They were billed waaaaaaaaaaaaay down on the bottom.

[idrive1life]

Originally Posted by xbnmx

Can someone please explain to me how a production team with one album and less than a year touring as a live act can possibly be billed over a stapble of the international DJ scene who's been at it for well over a decade and has been topping festival line-ups for years?

Word.

[M Sparks]

Originally Posted by thelastgreatman

It's been a long time since Praise You. C'mon, people.

It's been a long time since The Wall too. Hell, it's been a long time since Radio KAOS. There are a lot of factors in billing.

That said, I don't think it's that far out of wack. Justice made a big splash at Coachella last year, and that's reflected in the billing. Same for Gogol. Put this same lineup on a different fest and it would be different.

[M Sparks]

Originally Posted by kingsblend420

Yeah. Last year VNV Nation closed one the tents on Sunday. They were billed waaaaaaaaaaaaay down on the bottom.

Gogol were even lower and they had the same slot as VNV on Friday.

Infected Mushroom weren't much higher than VNV and they closed Sahara the same day.

Evil Nine were second to last and closed the Sahara on Friday.

Busdriver was 3rd from the bottom and played mid-evening in the Gobi.

Jarvis Cocker/Sonic Youth/DJ Shadow played in the exact opposite order they were billed on the outdoor stage.

That's just off the top of my head. Seems like Friday in particular was nutty.

EDIT: VNV wasn't "WAY down on the bottom"...they were like 4th or 5th line. I think Evil Nine had the most dramatic jump, probably because they figured most people who hang in the Sahara would either go to Bjork or DJ Shadow.

[thelastgreatman]

Originally Posted by M Sparks

It's been a long time since The Wall too. Hell, it's been a long time since Radio KAOS. There are a lot of factors in billing.

That said, I don't think it's that far out of wack. Justice made a big splash at Coachella last year, and that's reflected in the billing. Same for Gogol. Put this same lineup on a different fest and it would be different.

Yeah, I don't think that fucking Praise You and The Wall are particularly analagous.

[M Sparks]

Originally Posted by thelastgreatman

Yeah, I don't think that fucking Praise You and The Wall are particularly analagous.

Touche'

[moviebruin]

Fatboy Slim will have special guest Richard Koufey and Torrance Community Dance Group performing with him, which makes his set this year greater than anything Justice can come up with.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

Originally Posted by thelastgreatman

Yeah, I don't think that fucking Praise You and The Wall are particularly analagous.

aren't you the one who thinks underworld is the only band in history to make a worthwhile electronic album?

[Tijuana]

Originally Posted by thelastgreatman

It's been a long time since Praise You. C'mon, people.

Yeah,

but he's released a load of remixes and new dance tracks. If you don't buy vinyl and .mp3 singles, you wouldn't know much about it.

[Sonicifyouwantit]

Originally Posted by thelastgreatman

Yeah, I don't think that fucking Praise You and The Wall are particularly analagous.

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